Expensive Vanilla Scripts

A5PECT · Post by **A5PECT** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 06:28

Compress it using 7zip/WinRar and upload it to Rapidshare (Mediafire if you have an account).

I want to see how this plays out.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 06:53

KloHunt3r wrote:Compress it using 7zip/WinRar and upload it to Rapidshare (Mediafire if you have an account).

I want to see how this plays out.

Its compressed but even then its 4gb. Is there a service that lets you upload that large a file with an unpaid acct?

thecursed01 · Post by **thecursed01** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 07:37

sorry to interrup. Do I get it correct that you are working on a script that highly decreases CPU cycles in the game? sweet

I hop it will be easy to convert to non-english versions, if necessary

A5PECT · Post by **A5PECT** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 07:48

joelR wrote:Its compressed but even then its 4gb. Is there a service that lets you upload that large a file with an unpaid acct?

I think WinRar has a function that lets you compress a file into multiple parts. Then you could upload each part one at a time.

LV · Post by LV » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 08:45

we are coming awfully close to copyright infringement here ladies if one wants to upload the entire game folder to a host !

I know you both have x but your wobbling the proverbial tightrope

If i see any links appear for a full game folder download ..........................

careful

Jack08 · Post by **Jack08** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 09:23

LV wrote:we are coming awfully close to copyright infringement here ladies if one wants to upload the entire game folder to a host !

I know you both have x but your wobbling the proverbial tightrope

If i see any links appear for a full game folder download ..........................

careful

@Joel, at what point did you think sending someone else a fully copy of a 7 gig game was a good idea?...

My advice would be to delete your scripts, t, director, and all mod content from your game and then let steam repair it

then add back your scripts one by one HOWEVER DELETE ALL local copys of all your scripts, and redownload them from scratch... if you don't need something, don't download it...

Then, Add them to your game one by one, one at a time
meaning... Install script A... Test, Uninstall Script A... Install Script B... You get the idea

TrixX · Post by **TrixX** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 09:54

LOL Litcube was referring to the t, scripts and director folders only. He wasn't referring to the entire game

qwizzie · Post by **qwizzie** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 10:11

*** warning, heavy edited post

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JoelR : can you pls test the following

de-install JSON Parser libraries
let NPC Bailing installed
load a save game
jump to an empty sector
put seta on max for about 15 minutes
still freeze?

EDIT : removed earlier edit and conclusion due to not using latest files (Vanilla Rewrite 029b)

First try doing above was successfull .. no freeze with NPC bailing installed and no JSON Parser libraries and with Vanilla Rewrite 029b).
Second try sucessfull too
Third try successfull

Pls test if yr getting same results.

If yr getting same results then we only have to focus on the JSON Parser files....

note :

Maybe someone with experience in analysing dumpfiles can analyse the freeze with just the JSON pars files installed and give us some clue why its clashing with the Vanilla Rewrite 029b files?

Conclusion so far (awaiting confirmation from JoelR) : we are dealing with two kinds of freezes here.. one rather noticeable freeze caused by the NPC Bailing scripts and which is fixed with Vanilla Rewrite 029b and one freeze which seems more random occurring caused by the JSON Parser files which needs looking into.

Jack08 · Post by **Jack08** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 11:14

qwizzie wrote:JoelR : can you pls test the following

de-install JSON Parser libraries
let NPC Bailing installed
load a save game
jump to an empty sector
put seta on max for about 15 minutes
still freeze?

EDIT : removed earlier edit and conclusion due to not using latest files (Vanilla Rewrite 029b)

First try doing above was successfull .. no freeze with NPC bailing installed and no JSON Parser libraries and with Vanilla Rewrite 029b).
Second try sucessfull too

Pls test if yr getting same results.

If yr getting same results then we only have to focus on the JSON Parser files....

Your test is invalid, NPC Bailing addon requires the json parser, and wont initialize without it

Even if it does initialize, the JSON Parser is only ever used when opening the npc bail menu, so it cant be the cause

qwizzie · Post by **qwizzie** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 11:23

see edited reply above ... i wasnt using NPC Bailing and still
got the freezes with JSON Parser files installed (necessary for
the Military Base Revamp). Removing the JSON Parser files
removed the freezes for me. So i think there are indeed two
causes for the freezes.

Jack08 · Post by **Jack08** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 11:29

qwizzie wrote:see edited reply above ... i wasnt using NPC Bailing and still
got the freezes with JSON Parser files installed (necessary for
the Military Base Revamp). Removing the JSON Parser files
removed the freezes for me. So i think there are indeed two
causes for the freezes.

The JSON Library is only ever used for Menu's, it is a text parsing library - meaning any freezes are not being caused by Litcubes Scripts as JSON has no need to use them

This freeze is most probably not related to the topic of this thread - id be incredibly surprised if it was.

edit:
Just went over JSON as as i suspected there are 0 calls to vanilla scripts and 0 references to ships

qwizzie · Post by **qwizzie** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 11:37

was planning to suggest for someone to test JSON Parser files on a vanilla game with Vanilla Rewrite to see if a freeze could be found but reading yr edit
that doesnt seem necessary. Well, i'm all out of idea's here. Lets hope Litcube finds something.

To Litcube : pffff i keep updating my saturn complex

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 14:02

LV wrote:we are coming awfully close to copyright infringement here ladies if one wants to upload the entire game folder to a host !

I know you both have x but your wobbling the proverbial tightrope

If i see any links appear for a full game folder download ..........................

careful

I never had any serious intention of sending the Egosoft cat/dats or anything thats egosoft. Just my game folder that includes all non egosoft files. Nothing illegal about that. In fact I never admit to sending anything egosoft related. The size of all the crap NON EGOSOFT related is 4gb like I state earlier. I appreciate your concern but in this case it is unfounded although I can see how you could misinterpret what I said if you do no take into consideration my subsequent posts regarding sending the files. The compressed 4gb is all the custom stuff + saves + a few other things.
Its too easy to misread text.

Edited for clarity.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 14:05

Jack08 wrote:
LV wrote:we are coming awfully close to copyright infringement here ladies if one wants to upload the entire game folder to a host !

I know you both have x but your wobbling the proverbial tightrope

If i see any links appear for a full game folder download ..........................

careful
@Joel, at what point did you think sending someone else a fully copy of a 7 gig game was a good idea?...

My advice would be to delete your scripts, t, director, and all mod content from your game and then let steam repair it

then add back your scripts one by one HOWEVER DELETE ALL local copys of all your scripts, and redownload them from scratch... if you don't need something, don't download it...

Then, Add them to your game one by one, one at a time
meaning... Install script A... Test, Uninstall Script A... Install Script B... You get the idea

Jack08. I suggest you read my previous posts along with my conversation with Litcube. What you suggest was already done. In fact at one point litcube verifies that bailing addon is an issue.

And to answer your first question I have not sent nor do I intend to send X3tc to anyone. That would be stupid even if it was legal considering he has the game already and the issue is the custom mods and scripts.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 14:19

qwizzie wrote:was planning to suggest for someone to test JSON Parser files on a vanilla game with Vanilla Rewrite to see if a freeze could be found but reading yr edit
that doesnt seem necessary. Well, i'm all out of idea's here. Lets hope Litcube finds something.

Litcube states:

Joel, I have reproduced your lockup. Well done, man! A good tight find, that one.

Vanilla + Bailing Addon + Vanilla Rewrite = Lockup.

I'm trying to find out what's causing it right now...

@qwizzie I get the same result. What I dont get is a fix with the updated scripts. I can run the rewritten scripts with no problem in my heavily modified game so long as NPC bailing addon is not running. I can reproduce the freeze 100% of the time with it running. My game is perfectly stable with all mods/scripts (with litcubes rewrite) EXCEPT npc bailing addon. I have deleted, reinstalled, manually installed, used the PM to install etc etc, and it freezes ONLY with the vanilla rewrite so there is some other issue related to the bailing addon. Probably indirectly but related nonetheless.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 22:04

Joel, it seems bailing addon by itself doesn't cause problems any more (though it did, as when the owner race changed, which happens when a pilot is ejected, my scripts would loop).

If you drop a list of mods here, I'll download and install them and try again. How's that sound?

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Sat, 4. Jun 11, 00:27

Litcube wrote:Joel, it seems bailing addon by itself doesn't cause problems any more (though it did, as when the owner race changed, which happens when a pilot is ejected, my scripts would loop).

If you drop a list of mods here, I'll download and install them and try again. How's that sound?

Sure. That might be a better solution. If need be I can still send you the files but thats probably the messier option. I just got home and need to head out again for an appointment so when I get back i'll do that. I figure youre half drunk after celebrating after last nights match anyhow.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Sat, 4. Jun 11, 06:11

Litcube wrote:Joel, it seems bailing addon by itself doesn't cause problems any more (though it did, as when the owner race changed, which happens when a pilot is ejected, my scripts would loop).

If you drop a list of mods here, I'll download and install them and try again. How's that sound?

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Sat, 4. Jun 11, 06:13

Holy Jesus.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Sat, 4. Jun 11, 06:14

Litcube wrote:Holy Jesus.

Lol you asked for it. Get out now while you can!