Possible Litcube's Universe Release

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Wed, 15. Jan 14, 18:51

Dudes, wouldn't it be lame to release it without sound tracks?

Joubarbe · Post by **Joubarbe** » Wed, 15. Jan 14, 18:58

Not at all. Look, we don't even have 5 players on this page, and 3 of them are using custom soundtrack of their own (Jack, Bullwinkle and me).

Release the power !

And personally, I wouldn't want to play X with Daft Punk (even if I love the Tron OST).

DrBullwinkle · Post by **DrBullwinkle** » Wed, 15. Jan 14, 19:04

Litcube wrote:Dudes, wouldn't it be lame to release it without sound tracks?

Well, don't tell anyone that I said this, but I think you need a "bootleg" .cat with just your new tracks. Don't link it here on the forum but, you know... just offer it in dark alleys or the VIP room.

Release the mod with vanilla tracks, or Peanutcat's. That will avoid any copyright issues.

To be fair, anyone who actually *cares* much about their music has either already added their own tracks or they do what Jack does (turn down the in-game Music volume and play your own music from another device).

Talvinen · Post by **Talvinen** » Wed, 15. Jan 14, 19:56

Litcube wrote:Dudes, wouldn't it be lame to release it without sound tracks?

Not really, I play a soundtrack of Rammstein, FFDP, Disturbed, when I play X3. I almost always turn off the music when I play games.

I would say it would be better to release it without music, so as not to infuriate anyone out there who may own the music.

- - Talvinen

Argonaught. · Post by **Argonaught.** » Wed, 15. Jan 14, 19:58

I'm keeping a close eye here for it's release, so you can add another player whose looking forward to it.

One thing you could try if copywrite is an issue is as has been said to offer a complete download of the mod on another site and maybe just offer a non soundtrack one here.

i know it'd be nice to release it with everything added but even though you're not making money on it you may still be harrassed due to copywrite, which is a bummer.

Argo

Reido · Post by **Reido** » Wed, 15. Jan 14, 20:13

+1 for another player who never listens to in-game music.

Reido

dillpickle · Post by **dillpickle** » Wed, 15. Jan 14, 20:45

Argonaught. wrote:One thing you could try if copywrite is an issue is as has been said to offer a complete download of the mod on another site and maybe just offer a non soundtrack one here.

Copyright issue doesn't go away just by hosting on an 'unofficial' site.

If someone is going to sue over copyright infringement they're not going to care where it is being hosted...

Argonaught. · Post by **Argonaught.** » Wed, 15. Jan 14, 20:57

dillpickle wrote:
Argonaught. wrote:One thing you could try if copywrite is an issue is as has been said to offer a complete download of the mod on another site and maybe just offer a non soundtrack one here.
Copyright issue doesn't go away just by hosting on an 'unofficial' site.

If someone is going to sue over copyright infringement they're not going to care where it is being hosted...

Yes I know, I'm talking about avoiding the complaints by linking it here.

ps: I'm not advocating infringing copyright, or promoting it, but we'd be seriously stupid to deny it happens, and it happens in every game that uses copyrighted stuff in mods. After all, no one makes money from mods that I know off, even when Ego does the taking the original mod maker sees no money.

Argo.

dillpickle · Post by **dillpickle** » Wed, 15. Jan 14, 21:29

Argonaught. wrote:ps: I'm not advocating infringing copyright, or promoting it, but we'd be seriously stupid to deny it happens.

I don't deny it happens... At the end of the day it comes down to whether Litcube wants to take a chance on releasing with copyright music.

One way round it would be to release with default/no music and a list of 'recommended' tracks for sector music. Where/how the end user acquires said tracks is then their responsibility...

Argonaught. wrote:After all, no one makes money from mods that I know off, even when Ego does the taking the original mod maker sees no money.

Even though the mod maker makes no money, Egosoft still get written permission to use them before releasing to the public.

veryinky · Post by **veryinky** » Thu, 16. Jan 14, 23:04

An other vote for releasing it without the music, since I listen to my own.

birdtable · Post by **birdtable** » Fri, 17. Jan 14, 09:44

Speaking (hopefully) for those who can only consume/observe not assist I think dillpickle's "One way round it would be to release with default/no music and a list of 'recommended' tracks for sector music. Where/how the end user acquires said tracks is then their responsibility"... best solution .. but it does need music.... and only if Litcube is happy with it ....

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Tue, 21. Jan 14, 18:09

Someone has volunteered to help with the music tracks.

birdtable · Post by **birdtable** » Tue, 21. Jan 14, 18:43

Great ...... Looking forward to this.

Talvinen · Post by **Talvinen** » Wed, 22. Jan 14, 23:16

So, I figured it would be appropriate to tell you guys who is doing all the music stuff, so, well, it's me. I'm finding (hopefully) appropriate music for as many sectors as I can.

Thankfully several of EVE Online's old soundtracks are Creative Commons, so I'm gonna use those that I am sure about (which is only about 12 out of the 90 or so they have). If you have any suggestions as to a song, I'll check it out, make sure it's CC licensed, then if I find an appropriate place, I'll put in.

Sadly this is gonna take me some time to find some variety, because of school. So anything you guys can do to help would be awesome.

- - Talvinen o7

WindsweptDragon · Post by **WindsweptDragon** » Thu, 23. Jan 14, 02:51

Id vote for no music cause I would rather listen to my own while playing, probably koyaanisqatsi by Philip Glass or the Soundtracks by Ennio Morricone

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Thu, 23. Jan 14, 20:04

@WindsweptDragon:

To answer your questions that you PMd me that you totally could have posted here (

), this mod wouldn't be considered for the novice.

As soon as Talvinen is done with the music, I'll be posting it.

WindsweptDragon · Post by **WindsweptDragon** » Thu, 23. Jan 14, 20:08

Ok, thanks for the info.

Killjaeden · Post by **Killjaeden** » Tue, 28. Jan 14, 20:09

Please remove all XTC ships that are not featured in AP or the community addon. Especially the ships from XTM. The author, Mox, prohibited use of his models in any other mod apart from xtc before leaving. Please respect that decision.

However, you have my permission to use my orbital missile platform models that i also allowed jack to use for XTL, if he still has them, because i dont.
those

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Tue, 28. Jan 14, 20:54

Thanks for the info, KJ. I can appreciate you extending Mox's wishes.

Mods, please lock this thread if you get a chance.

DrBullwinkle · Post by **DrBullwinkle** » Tue, 28. Jan 14, 23:49

Perhaps an alternative to locking the thread would be to replace the models with suitable substitutes? There are many models available for general use.

If you need help with doing the work, then perhaps some player(s) might pitch in with replacing the required models? There are many players who already know how to modify TShips to point to a different model and scene.

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Possible Litcube's Universe Release