X-SUPERBOX: What is this all about and what should it contain?

[Deleted User]

Hello X-Space-pilots!

As you may have noticed EGOSOFT is planning to release a Superbox containing all the X-series titles along with lots of content made by fans of the series. Before I start listing all the content we'd like to see in this box, let me describe the purpose of the box and why we thought it was a good idea to publish it.

First of all I should explain that "Superbox" is more of a working title for this unofficial project than a fixed name. We haven't decided yet what name we will give it; as soon as we have made a decision you will be the first to know!

As you probably know, the 10-year story of the X-series came to a conclusion with X3: Terran Conflict. Over the years many fans of the series have come to these forums and many are still here in the community. They are sure to remember the humble beginnings of this story with Kyle William Brennan and his ship, the X-perimental. In X-Beyond the Frontier he lost contact with Earth as a result of a terrible accident involving his jumpdrive and had to fight against massive threats. In X-Tension he recovered a lost prototype ship belonging to the Paranid. In X2: The Threat and X3: Reunion his son, Julian Brennan, followed his footsteps and fought against more dangerous threats than his father could have ever done. In doing so he rescued millions of people in Omicron Lyrae and even made it possible to reconnect the X-Universe with the Sol system. In X3: Terran Conflict you had to maintain peace while the Kha'ak and the Xenon, the descendants of the Terraformers, continued to threaten not only the people of the X-Universe, but also the humans of the Sol system and of course you! This was the only way to grant both sides a peaceful future together.

All the games mentioned above will be in this special box, that much is for sure! But the games of the X-series also motivated many people to create expansions, write scripts, fan-fiction and many other things. To make this superbox worthy of the name, we are calling upon our trusted community to make suggestions of possible fan-made content to go into the box. The potential variety of the content is huge, so don't be hesitant when making your suggestions. This box shouldn't just be something from EGOSOFT for fans, but by fans for fans. You wrote many useful guides, tutorials and HowTo's that we'd also like to add to the content of the superbox. Tell us what you want to see in this box and we'll do our best to add it.

To keep an overview of the collected content we've decided to separate this request into five threads. The content we want is so huge that it would be easy to lose track if we collected it all in one thread.

So, we are separating the subject areas into the following categories:

• X2: The Threat - Scripts & Modding Forum
  
  Here we will collect:
  
  • Scripts
    Mods
    Scripting and Modding tutorials
    Plug-ins & Tools
    AL-Plug-ins
  Please note that any scripts you suggest need to have an interface, so that they don't need to be executed via the Script Editor.
• X-Universe
  
  Here we are going to collect:
  
  • Tutorials, Guides, Tips, Tricks, HowTo's
    Sector maps
    Savegames
    Screenshots (i.e. as loadscreens)
  
  We will look through all of this content and decide which to put into the box. We ask you to always post a link to the content you want us to include so that we don't have to spend too much time searching for it.
• X3: Terran Conflict - Scripts & Modding Forum
  
  Here we will collect the following things:
  
  • Scripts
    Mods
    Scripting and Modding tutorials
    AL-Plug-ins
    MD-Missions
    MD-Tutorials
    Plug-ins & Tools
    Ships (need to be installable with Cycrow's Ship Installer)
  Please note that any scripts you suggest need to have an interface, so that they don't need to be executed via the Script Editor.
• X3: Reunion - Scripts & Modding Forum
  
  Here we are collecting:
  
  • Scripts
    Mods
    Scripting and Modding tutorials
    AL-Plug-ins
    MD-Missions
    MD-Tutorials
    Plug-ins & Tools
    Ships (need to be installable with Cycrow's Ship Installer)
  Please note that any scripts you suggest need to have an interface, so that they don't need to be executed via the Script Editor.
• Creative Universe
  
  Here we are collecting:
  
  • Fan-fiction
    Wallpapers
    Music
  Regarding music titles, these must be fan-made rather than commercially released tracks that require licensing, and must also not already have been used in any of the games. Wallpapers should have X as a theme and not your favourite cars; the same goes for fan-fiction. Since we know your creativity knows no limits, anything not listed here is also allowed as long as it relates to X.

As you can see the box is turning into a really big project. EGOSOFT isn't just going to ask you for content, but will also be adding its own materials that will definitely throw you out of your pilot's seat! We want this superbox to be as big as possible so we are asking for your help in collecting good, helpful materials, and are looking forward to your suggestions.

Enjoy!

[Lord Dakier]

Well now there is not much left that can be added. I'd say add this to the game so we dont lose the modified status;

Chear Homebase Command.:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=79858

Can't really suggest anymore myself. As for mods the top looking mods at the moment are Top Gun and Pandora are looking like the top ones.

[reheat]

This is way too cool.

I'm a n00b here and am still just now playing through the X2. Unfortunately X-BTF has been a bit too unstable on my system. I got too impatient to fight with it and jumped on to X2.

I hate to say that some of the content refered to in the forums are no longer available. The links have died. There are some that are still active however.

The site and people at: http://x2-pandora.de/

are awesome. That mod should be a must-have for the new box for X2.

I know how you guys have come up with the genesis of this game suite from its inception. Everything is old hat to you and you have a sense of "how things work" for all the games.

I can honestly say that for a n00b, the weeding through to find out how to do simple things, has been a real pain. The manuals have been sorely incomplete. Just try to find out what the "k" key does to the laser targeting system. The key is mentioned in the controls section, but narry a word about what it does. This is just a small example of what I am talking about. From my perspective, about 75% or more of the game is guessing how to make it work.

I would strongly suggest a bit of a documentation project for the new box project, and perhaps descriptions (in detail) of things like, how to make a transport service a factory. I guess I am saying, that an encyclopedia for the X universe is a bit over due. From what I see, accessability seems to be the biggest hurdle, and the biggest discouragement to new players.

IMHO new players is what will make this project live again. With all of the latest graphics technology available these days, I am certain an X4 project could suck the air from your lungs to see. I hope this project is aimed at generating seed capital for that.

Just make sure there are enough copies for people to buy. (especialy English) I look forward to this. Anyone at Egosoft or otherwise need any help with this, let me know. I'm a n00b, but am willing to do what I can. I have just started to begin to come up to speed in scripting.

[Lord Dakier]

X3:TC is the last of the X universe so if Ego do make something it wont be about X again. Which is rather sad cause I feel that a RTS would be pretty cool especially one set during the Split Wars.

Laser targeting is the crosshair it changes with the Fight Command software... go into a battle with all the fighter software then press k 3 times and watch the crosshair change.

Basic Software: Crosshair
Fight Command Mk1: Interception Moving Crosshair
Fight Command Mk2: Semi-Auto-Aim Crosshair

Dont hold your breathe about new options and features being installed as a new patch would be unlikely.

[Shadow dream]

Wow, that sound huge and I sure am interested! I hope we get some cool stuff from egosoft too so will that be a new game, or mods for those games or have I just overread that part where it is mentioned
will we be able to upgrade the possibilities of modding in elder games as X2? We at Pandora are getting really troubled with those limits (but I have to admit it somehow makes fun to reach that limits as close as possible )

Shadow

[Lord Dakier]

Being able to make the Khaak a friendly race to the player would be a start. I want my Khaak custom start lol.

[Shadow dream]

Just change a race-name and then start a script that checks every ship in your sector and changes owner to friendly-khaak ^^
I'm talking about things as Caps that can dock at M0 or that missle-frigates as they are in TC There're a lot of things I'd like to have in X2 but our work-arrounds don't always work ;(

Shadow

[Lord Dakier]

Yeah but still its one of many things that should be changed

I wanna see speed settings for Strafe Drive .

[Deleted User]

@Shadow dream
Would you grant us permission to use the Pandora mod for the superbox?

[Cycrow]

Well now there is not much left that can be added. I'd say add this to the game so we dont lose the modified status;

Chear Homebase Command.:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=79858

Can't really suggest anymore myself. As for mods the top looking mods at the moment are Top Gun and Pandora are looking like the top ones.

id just like to point out something.

the superbox will contain a large number of scripts and mods for the 3 games

however, the scripts that are included will not be signed, so u will have the modified status when using them.

this isn't a bonus pack where everything is checked and signed, this is more a collection of everything

[Lord Dakier]

Yeah well I was kind of hoping that Ego would atleast sign that one.

Fair enough about the other scripts. Not sure if there are anymore real helpfull ones which are fair in a signing sense.

[Cycrow]

its unlikly any more scripts for X2 will get signed.

the script signing team is only small, and very busy working on the X3TC bonus pack, there really isn't any time available to do other games

[Chris Gi]

Would you grant us permission to use the Pandora mod for the superbox?

Unless the Superbox is a long term plan, it's unlikely that Pandora will be finished by the time the Superbox will be released.

[Shadow dream]

further we're changing soo much it would be incompatible with anything else. At least not with shipmods Scripts are changed at a far point (even basic scripts) so it's not only a question of time but compatibility too

Shadow

[Chris Gi]

I don't think that's the point, because all mods and scripts are in separate folders, aren't they? And maybe this comes with an installer that helps installing this stuff and keep track of the changes? Might be a good idea. Will the Superbox have an installer for all additional mods and scripts? This would help minimize compatibility issues with conflicting scripts.

(@Shadow: BTW, we should use an installer ourselves ).

[Shadow dream]

as much as I can take from that text it will be one mod for each game. That means anything should be compatible. If these were single instalations you'd just have to post the downloadlinks here
but yeah, a proper installer would be good (for both projects )

Shadow

[Cycrow]

no its not 1 mod for each game, its basically a collection of everything.

there will be a dedicated installer and script/mod manager built in, which is based of the plugin manager.

this will allow you to select which main mod your use, as well as select the individual scripts you wish to activate.

so compatability issues aren't really a problem.

ud have about 6 weeks if you want to get this finished for the superbox.
even if its not finished but in a useable state, it can be added in the "Experimental" section of the manager

[Chris Gi]

Ok, we will discuss this. It sure is in a usuable state, but not yet tested with the X2 story.

[Shadow dream]

no its not 1 mod for each game, its basically a collection of everything.

there will be a dedicated installer and script/mod manager built in, which is based of the plugin manager.

so you mean we get a plugin-manager and kind of a spk.file that works on all 3 games? I wonder how you are going to make that texture-thing for X2 or all the other extras added in X3 and TC
I won't complain if you upgrade X2 I just wonder...

Shadow

[Lord Dakier]

I sure as hell won't complain lol.

Well so far the mods I can put forward are;
Top Gun
Pandora
Deadly's

I'm guessing top gun will most likely not be added. Pandora still needs finishing and beta testing... *Wonder who could do the beta tests * and Deadly's I dont think has a workable link.