Mobile Mining Mk2 (MM Mk2) v1.05 [TC][AP][SCR]

[mrowka]

It puzzles me why TC miners are 5x more productive than AP miners, when they both use the same code, AFAIK. (Unless Vayde is on to something with cluster-respawning in TC?)

If respawn is for rocks and not asteroid its only the matter how fast and if its a single rock or a cluster. You get extra time saving since you get rocks insted of asteroids, another time save is that your miner dont need to fly thrugh sector to next mining spot. And maybe its the matter of miner ship, i use baldric since in xrm no m3 have XL cargo anymore. So i will see what will this m6 do since they are similar to m3 in thier speed of work

Edit: M6 do a bit better than normal TS but still the rate of minerals is around 90-110 per sazura, entire mining operation did make me around 17 milions of credits. Cost of setting it all up was around 115 milions of credits, it include 4x m6, 1x trading dock for storage, and 6x m3 for patrols. I think that i could double the income if all miners would mine nvidium.

Seems that egosoft didnt intend to make mobile mining to profitable

Will try to set up similar mining operation cutting on some upgrades and with cheaper ships, and change trading port to Mistral SF for storage and normal mistral for sales.
Odd thing is that OOS size of a ship should`t matter, but still one of my slow and bulky TL gethers more minerals than a bit less slow and bulky TS.

[akari no ryu]

Thank you.
I was using prospector, which was depleting (permanently) the 'roids.
I found this out after the Unknown Sector just south of the Player Owned sector from the Teladi Quest was all but wiped out of silicon (for the Hub quest).
Can't express how frustrated I was (though glad I hadn't run it in Ore belt, that would have sucked).
A thousand times thank you.

[DrBullwinkle]

You are welcome. I am glad that you like Mobile Mining Mk2.

Prospector will break asteroids. The current version of Mobile Mining will not, although it will be a configurable option in a future version.

Re-spawning of rocks or asteroids depends on the game (and mod). Both TC and AP will re-spawn asteroids (those that appear on the map), but only TC will re-spawn smaller rocks.

the Unknown Sector just south of the Player Owned sector from the Teladi Quest

Which game and mod are you playing?



PS: Eat more fruit and vegetables

[akari no ryu]

I don't mind breaking the asteroids myself.
Had it done.
I'm playing the most up to date from steam, had Prospector isntalled, though have been having a devil of a time getting it to leave.
Also have Ring of Fire installed.

[DrBullwinkle]

Lucike makes excellent uninstallers -- just follow the instructions (if you can understand them in your language ).

I meant, "which game" are you playing? TC or AP? And what mod(s)? I ask because Quests are not part of vanilla TC or AP, there is no Teladi plot, and I do not know to which sector you refer.

The game (and, maybe, the mod) affect whether or not rocks and asteroids respawn. Prospector and Mobile Mining do not.

[akari no ryu]

TC, gave up on AP when I realised there's no way to effect the war.

I followed the instructions, but I get a warning when I start up saying the plugin needs Commodities and something else installed.

I don't know if it's related to the whole "can't get the plugin uninstalled issue" but the ships that I've added to a Wing and told to go mine occasionally get damaged. When they do, they go to the nearest shipyard to get repaired. They get repaired and then sit in the shipyard, despite their CMD changing to "Mine Asteroids".

Is this related to the incorrect uninstall?

[akari no ryu]

Like the idiot that I am, I forgot to mention the Bonus Package.

[DrBullwinkle]

When [miners get damaged], they go to the nearest shipyard to get repaired. They get repaired and then sit in the shipyard, despite their CMD changing to "Mine Asteroids".

Interesting. That could be a bug. Is the shipyard in the same sector? Were you in-sector with the miners while they were working, or OOS?

It should not be related to Prospector, which uses different scripts.

TC has no Teladi Quest that I know of. Are you playing XRM or XTC?

I know what you mean about the war in AP -- it is stupid after the plot ends. However, it is not permanent -- a future update could change it.

Also, Terran Conflict plots for Albion Prelude (dillpickle) ends the war, as well.

Regarding Prospector uninstall: When you get messages from your computer they are called "dialogs". That means that the computer is trying to communicate with you. If you do not read the dialogs, then you will not know how to fix the problem. If you do not tell *me* what the dialog says, then there is no way that I can help you with that particular problem.

[akari no ryu]

I'm OOS, I try to steer well clear of any ships that are doing mining.
The shipyard is in the next sector over.
The quest in question is the one which gives you the Sector you own, a teladi station in Freedom's Reach has a Terraformer CPU ship appear.

[DrBullwinkle]

The plot you describe is "A New Home" in English. There are several possible player sectors that can be awarded, so your description does not help me.

But, no matter -- I will try to reproduce your report about miners not resuming mining after repairs at a shipyard. Thank you, akari no ryu.

With Mobile Mining Mk2, it is safe to be in the same sector with your miners. I fixed the bugs that make IS mining unsafe in the vanilla mobile mining scripts.

[DevilishMoney]

Regarding the issue with AP mining, in the global settings file there are modifiers such as SG_MM_Yield_Multiplier, SG_MM_Yield_Divisor and other values which may help.

[Raaaak]

Is it possible to modify miner behaviour on full hold, and full homebase, so that they go on standby instead of stopping the command?

That would be helpful for supplying massive microchip complexes, without either having to undersupply then, or set up a overflow system via CLS2 or CAG.

(This is in TC if that matters)

[DrBullwinkle]

Yes, I could do that in a future version: Send an email to the player when Homebase is full, then idle.

In the meantime, you could set up a CLS2 transport to automatically offload your Homebase.

[Raaaak]

That would be an appreciated addition, by at least one person that is.

My planned, halfway built, setup is as follows.

I have a bunch of mining ships homebased at a TL.

And a few Super Freighters with CLS2 orders:

Load silicon from TL
Unload at power plant.
Unload at chip complex.
Unload at overflow storage (a couple L silicon mines and a complex hub)
Refuel

Then I will add CAGs to sell any silicon at the overflow storage.

If you were to add suspend(and auto resume) on full home base instead of cancel order, I could skip the overflow handling part. Without having to try to arrange a minimal surplus of processing capacity.

PS.
sending an email may not be the best idea, mining could suspend and resume pretty regularly under this setup.
DS.

[Deathtoll666]

Did I just go full retard, or is there no download link in the OP, or anywhere else in the thread?

i found the problem. i use google chrome and i had the same problem. i copied the web address and pasted it into IE. i could see the download button there.

[DrBullwinkle]

Fixed. Thank you both.

In case players have not yet noticed, Mobile Mining Mk2 must be reinstalled after each Steam update (or Verify files).

Just install over the old version and it will be fine again.

[Shiningmoonblade]

I love this Mod/Script. I've been looking for prospector for a year and could not find it. Then i saw this on your list and i have to say its much easier to install and use. It makes mobile mining fun instead of a chore. Thanks Doc.

[Idleking]

Huh, seems like my Wing of Mistral TS ships doesn't do the mining when I set up the Wing with the Mine Minerals Command.

If I disband the Wing and order the ships to Mine separately, everything works fine.

Haven't worked out if it's just the order in which I installed my other scripts/mods (TC plots for AP, your improved boarding, FCC) but I'm on that....

But even if I can't get it fixed, it's still a hell lot of awesomeness having this script (and I don't really mind the micromanagement setting up 30 TS to mine silicon for the HUB since it's still worth doing it ).

Just another random question at the end:
TLs are not available to drop off minerals, any reaseon why not?
Or just because you could?

[DrBullwinkle]

seems like my Wing of Mistral TS ships doesn't do the mining when I set up the Wing with the Mine Minerals Command.

What do they do when you give them the wing mining command?

The order in which you install scripts does not matter as long as nothing overwrites the script. In this case, that could be a Steam update, so just reinstall MM Mk2 over itself if there is a Steam update.

TLs are not available to drop off minerals, any reason why not?

Is there any reason why?

That is what CLS2 is for.

[Idleking]

Hrm.. seems like everything's working after all - maybe the Nividium 'Roid was just depleted since it works with mining Silicon

Could you make them notice the player if the stuff to collect isn't around anymore?

Yeah, right, CLS2 does that, kinda..
But setting a wing of miners to unload at a TL requires less clicking for the setup of the CLS2