[Discussion] Generic X3TC S&M questions II

Post by **Ketraar** » Wed, 31. Mar 10, 12:09

Posted.

Rednoahl wrote:especially when you introduce conversations into the mix.

Conversations are just an event like any other, and an simple one to check too.
Once you understand that MD is event driven, you will find that its easy.
Also note that MD is read from Top to bottom, so any action or condition that is above will be done/checked first. Same applies to cues. But that is all explained in the manual, which brings me to what Carlo said.

Carlo the Curious wrote:If you haven't seen it yet, the X3R sticky has a very basic guide (in the support files).

Yes and it should be the first thing to read for anyone who wants to code, although a lot of stuff is missing there, but the logic of it still applies to TC.

MFG

Ketraar

Rednoahl · Post by **Rednoahl** » Wed, 31. Mar 10, 13:59

The director guide for Reunion is always loaded up while I'm working with the MD - I'm still trying to drill in my head "Action is the event which occurs a certain Timing after the Condition is met."

I've also got about 20 threads bookmarked (mainly googletranslated German) that are useful in places. A 4'x3' coffee table covered in notes and flow charts/plans and post it notes stuck all over the place. Once I can order all that information I might get a bit further than I am currently

I'm fairly pleased with my progress so far, it's just good to have another reference to look at when a problem occurs. Even though my progress has been slow, I am "getting" a bit more every day. I'm also glad that there are others here trying to get to grips with MD - more code for dissection!

Argonaught. · Post by **Argonaught.** » Wed, 31. Mar 10, 16:36

I have compiled the MD questions from the X3R and the X3TC thread thats now locked.

Need to know can i post it all in one post for everyone as i saved it with the forums codes ie: quotes with posters name and code for the code posted.

It's a tad large, but it'll save folks from having to trawl through the threads.

I have them set out in Questions / Answers type format.

the odd question hasn't got an answer or the poster figured the problem out himself but never posted what it was.

Anyway let me know if I can post this large text in the forum.
If not I'll take a stab at trying to make it look pretty for DL instead.

Argo.

Igor.tverd · Post by **Igor.tverd** » Wed, 31. Mar 10, 18:35

@ Argonaught

Here's a quote from this thread by LV

LV wrote:This may sink like lead but i've seen a few short md scripts over the last few days/weeks and it's work trying to have dedicated thread for short md code

I've created this thread so smaller md code can be posted so users can not only use it but also ask questions around what certain commands do.
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Any code posted in these forums like below can be put here even if you didn't write it as long as your post shows who did.

I think it would be great if you posted what you've found, it would defiantly help in development of Missions and plots.
I have been doing similar search and have come upon some very helpful bits of MD code here and there, I still have a long way to go to clean it up and all.

Argonaught. · Post by **Argonaught.** » Wed, 31. Mar 10, 19:00

Igor.tverd wrote:@ Argonaught

Here's a quote from this thread by LV

LV wrote:This may sink like lead but i've seen a few short md scripts over the last few days/weeks and it's work trying to have dedicated thread for short md code

I've created this thread so smaller md code can be posted so users can not only use it but also ask questions around what certain commands do.
......
.....

Any code posted in these forums like below can be put here even if you didn't write it as long as your post shows who did.
I think it would be great if you posted what you've found, it would defiantly help in development of Missions and plots.
I have been doing similar search and have come upon some very helpful bits of MD code here and there, I still have a long way to go to clean it up and all.

I forgot about that thread

it only has a small link for it in the sticky

.

Argo.

Post by **Ketraar** » Fri, 2. Apr 10, 00:04

Igor.tverd wrote:Any news on planet removal?

Basically it does not work. The MD fails to find any planet. So guess the only other option is to make a script and remove the planets using those, then add new ones with load_map or create_planet.

No idea on how to script though, have to pass.

MFG

Ketraar

s9ilent · Post by **s9ilent** » Fri, 2. Apr 10, 11:17

Q: Columns and menu headings
Can headings be put into columns?

Lucike · Post by **Lucike** » Fri, 2. Apr 10, 11:26

s9ilent wrote:Q: Columns and menu headings
Can headings be put into columns?

You mean this headings?

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Yes, of course. Look at this thread:

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=261816

Regards
Lucike

s9ilent · Post by **s9ilent** » Fri, 2. Apr 10, 11:32

Yes I do, Cheers

Q:
I know that when a ship is running a script, and the ship dies, that the script stops, but, what happens if say
-shipmain is running a task, which then does a
-$ship1 -> call script xyz
-The ship1 script is half way through executing when ship1 dies

Does the script return null? or continue to run?

EmperorJon · Post by **EmperorJon** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 12:08

I'm currently making a script which causes damage when capitals blow up.

It's run off the Killed signal, and therefore gets the location and other data of the ship after it's been killed.

But as for a task... hm...

Not sure.

On to my question:

I couldn't find, anyway, a decent guide on how to make a gamestart. Sorry, I just couldn't!

Anyway provide any tips?

Rednoahl · Post by **Rednoahl** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 12:34

Neither could I (not for ones that have missions in anyway) - I'm cheating a bit how mine is done by coding after the 3.05 gamestarts missions. It was the only way I could get my missions to trigger right from the word go. I'm not experienced enough to use the "ref" command yet - but I suspect that is the way forward.

I'm claiming start 210 by the way if nobody has done before me.

Carlo the Curious · Post by **Carlo the Curious** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 17:25

EmperorJon wrote:I couldn't find, anyway, a decent guide on how to make a gamestart. Sorry, I just couldn't!

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=226913

EmperorJon · Post by **EmperorJon** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 17:27

Yes, but the question is where do I get those XML files from, where do I extract them from and how...

Post by **Ketraar** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 17:39

L\true\gamestart.xml

\director\start.xml

If you want your mission to trigger only in your custom start the set condition of toplevel cue to

Code: Select all

<check_value value="{player.gamestart}" exact="xy"/>

xy= your gamestart ID nr. set in gamestart.xml

MFG

Ketraar

Carlo the Curious · Post by **Carlo the Curious** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 17:40

Use the X3 Editor to extract the cat files.

EmperorJon · Post by **EmperorJon** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 17:41

Know, I mean where do I get gamestart.xml and start.xml from?

Rednoahl · Post by **Rednoahl** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 17:58

EmperorJon wrote:Know, I mean where do I get gamestart.xml and start.xml from?

...second line down, from the link Carlo pointed at:

TC/director/start.xml
TC/L/true/gamestarts.xml

You must have had too good a holiday fella

EDIT: ...and I must be too hungover - missed that Ketraar had already pointed that out.

EmperorJon · Post by **EmperorJon** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 18:18

Rednoahl · Post by **Rednoahl** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 18:24

Does anyone know what files the "overlays" are in cutscenes?

EDIT: ignore - I've found what I wanted (at least I think I have) but can't alter it because I haven't got a 3D program.

Post by **Cycrow** » Sat, 3. Apr 10, 19:53

s9ilent wrote:Yes I do, Cheers

Q:
I know that when a ship is running a script, and the ship dies, that the script stops, but, what happens if say
-shipmain is running a task, which then does a
-$ship1 -> call script xyz
-The ship1 script is half way through executing when ship1 dies

Does the script return null? or continue to run?

when a ship dies, all scripts on that stack are stopped, regardless of where they are.

so both the task and the called script will be stopped the moment the ship dies