[X3TC] I couldn't help myself! I capped another Hyperion Vanguard!

rwhiteruff · Post by **rwhiteruff** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 02:40

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I was in Emperor Mines doing a patrol mission, ironically to increase Paranid reputation after a string of Duke's missions and the only Paranid military ship in the sector assisting me was a Hyperion Vanguard.

...I... I just couldn't help it! I called in my iguana full of marines, transfered them to my own Hyperion Vanguard, jumped it out. Then I shot the paranid ship full of HEPT until the shields went down, dumped my marines into space, and kept the thing's shields down until they got onboard.

Marines were all 5 stars in secondary skills. One marine was 4 star fighting, the rest were 1 star fighting. I lost nobody, though the Hype's hull was down to 42% by the end.

A few apologies later, I'm not sure what to do with her. I'm thinking of using her as a wingman, though I'm afraid of friendly fire or destruction of possible bail ships (something I'm terrible with anyway).

Also not sure what to arm her with, since she'll be AI controlled instead of a player ship. Maybe CIGs instead of HEPTs forward?

cattafett · Post by **cattafett** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 03:45

how close are you you to getting the player HQ
if you don't need it you could just mothball it for RE
or cap a few more add an M2 and use them for OOS corp protect station missioms
come to think of it they work quite well as IS wingmen but not if you want bails, i have them set up with full Cig in the main and PAC everywhere else with turrets set for missile def
any complexs you need guarding

rwhiteruff · Post by **rwhiteruff** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 03:51

Finished HUB and OFF, haven't started on PHQ plot yet (stuck doing Duke's, but I'm 7/10 there).

Right now I've named it Thor's Hammer and armed it with 4x4 CIG/HEPTs forward, 2x2 EBCs front, and 3x3 PACs rear. I'm also giving it two Nova Raiders armed with 8x HEPTs and 1x PRG a piece and carrier command software. I'll try using it as a wingmate and see how that goes.

Skillzfire · Post by **Skillzfire** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 04:03

i personaly dont get all the fuss over the hype, its just hard to get the skiron is easyer and has around the same combat capability. (not saying i dont cap one as soon as i see it mind you

) but everyone thinks its the best ship in the game, no that award goes to the elephant

as a wing man you will really want it with fast weapons since unless you have CODEA the AI wont hit Sh** if you are wanting it to defend stations OOS just stuff it full of CIG and hope for the best

rwhiteruff · Post by **rwhiteruff** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 04:06

What's the best way to have a wingman? Should I order it to 'follow me', 'protect me', or put it in a wing with me and use the 'player's wingman' setting or what? I've always flown solo.

cattafett · Post by **cattafett** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 04:34

have it set as 'player's wingman' so you can use the protcet me and attack my target keys
the 2 M3s homebased to the hype set to protect the hype

rwhiteruff · Post by **rwhiteruff** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 06:15

Well... that sucked.

I took on a mission to assassinate a Yaki in a centaur, and jumped in right on top of his little fleet. Surgical strike on the centaur went fine.

As I hit jump to minimize my rep loss, I notice that there's only one Nova Raider IS and it's heavily damaged. I swiftly hit external camera and look behind me.

The yaki fighters had PBGs. I'm not sure if that's what did in the two fighters or what, but as I watched the remaining Nova it slammed into a jump gate pylon and exploded.

deca.death · Post by **deca.death** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 07:31

Skillzfire wrote:i personaly dont get all the fuss over the hype, its just hard to get the skiron is easyer and has around the same combat capability. (not saying i dont cap one as soon as i see it mind you ;) ) but everyone thinks its the best ship in the game, no that award goes to the elephant :D

Skiron? Nah. I flew both ships quite long actually, skiron is capable combat vessel, but not nearly as powerful or flexible as hyper. That ship is just class for itself. Docking spaces, cargo hold (cargo hold !!!), weapon generator, PBG, ammo based weapons in nose .... you name it. It's the only ship that can dock other ships AND dock to any station in universe ; )

And yes, it is best player ship in this game, if not for everyone then for most. I fly 5-6 vessels constantly besides hyperion because I don't like using just one ship (springy, hyper, centaur raider (slightly improved w. exploit), shrike, griffon, cobra, tyr, boreas), but if i had to choose just one ....

rwhiteruff · Post by **rwhiteruff** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 07:38

Yeah it's the speed and versatility that makes the HyperV trump pretty much everything. There are other ships in its class that exceed it in one area or another, but not one does so well in all areas as the HyperV.

Infekted · Post by **Infekted** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 11:51

They can actually make pretty decent traders, that can deal with most things short of a Q.
Or In sector patrols, or for bitchslapping pirate groups off your complexes.
Just think of standard M6 roles, and the Hypy V will perform outstandingly.

deca.death · Post by **deca.death** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 11:56

Infekted wrote:They can actually make pretty decent traders..

Oh, splendid idea, 40 MILLION credit worth vessel used for trading. Or you can sell it and buy yourself nice TS trader, more like fleet of them.

rwhiteruff · Post by **rwhiteruff** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 12:08

deca.death wrote:
Oh, splendid idea, 40 MILLION credit worth vessel used for trading. Or you can sell it and buy yourself nice TS trader, more like fleet of them.

I use the 6 million a pop springblossom as STs in Terran space.

Infekted · Post by **Infekted** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 12:16

Better than "mothballing" it. Put it to use whilst you wait to RE it. It's literally the only trade vessel that can carry its escort with it. Thats worth a lot in certain situations.
Plus 40mill is chump change quite frankly.

Masochisto · Post by **Masochisto** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 14:05

deca.death wrote:
Infekted wrote:They can actually make pretty decent traders..
Oh, splendid idea, 40 MILLION credit worth vessel used for trading. Or you can sell it and buy yourself nice TS trader, more like fleet of them.

I think the point is that they have the cargo capacity of a TS, the fighting power of a light M7, the speed of an M3+ and the utility of a TM. It is clearly overpowered!

While a Springblossom may be faster, its not faster than a Kestral, and a Hyperion can carry the fast M5 for when it is needed.

As for using M6s as traders, I have started replacing alot of my Mk III traders with Springblossoms for testing... a Springblossom Mk III took out a Xenon Patrol the other day, killing a Xenon P and several Ls... I would have lost the trader if it were in any other ship. Hopefully it will have the sense to run if it sees a Q.

Infekted · Post by **Infekted** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 14:20

Springblossom cargo x speed ratio rivals some of the very best TS ships. Not even mentioning the enhanced shields/pwning ability.

But I think we digress from the point. When ever I see a Hippy V I cannot resist helping myself to it. And I would never bring myself to sell such a beast. As such its selling price is kind of irrelevent.
If I was capping for cash I'd go for Akumas or something.

sjones25 · Post by **sjones25** » Fri, 2. Sep 11, 23:26

Stealing a hyperion is always worth it! If nothing else than to stick it to those slimy paranids!

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[X3TC] I couldn't help myself! I capped another Hyperion Vanguard!

[X3TC] I couldn't help myself! I capped another Hyperion Vanguard!