In-Game Universe Map

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Thu, 29. Nov 07, 23:45

I am working on creating an expanded Universe for my game and I wanted to check and see if anyone had created a new version of the in-game universe map (00749.bob) that will show All of the Sector Boxes AND the Gate routes.

Right now, the version that I have shows all of the Sector boxes as a flat grid and with no gate routes. Is this the only modded 00749.bob file that there is?

I'd like to have one that is 3d like the original map but shows all of the sector boxes with the gate routes.

Post by **Cycrow** » Fri, 30. Nov 07, 01:53

XFP uses one for most sectors.

also, there is one available for every sector as well as a program to automatically generate one based on your galaxy map.

or of course, u could create one yourself

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Fri, 30. Nov 07, 03:15

where can i find the program to generate one?

TEKing66 · Post by **TEKing66** » Fri, 30. Nov 07, 05:35

I would be interested in this program as well. Would make my life a little easier, I'm putting together an expanded map with several new sectors to explore. This program that Cycrow mentioned sounds like something very useful.

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Sat, 1. Dec 07, 02:22

where is this program to generate the In-game map?

dathion · Post by **dathion** » Sat, 1. Dec 07, 08:51

Try this [Program] Random universe Generator UPDATED V1.5

good luck

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Sat, 1. Dec 07, 22:17

what program?

SymTec ltd. · Post by **SymTec ltd.** » Sat, 1. Dec 07, 23:45

[Program] Random universe Generator UPDATED V1.5

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Sun, 2. Dec 07, 00:48

Thanks... but that isnt what I was looking for.

I've already created the Universe... its just that my new sectors don't show up on the Vanilla universe map. The Universe map being the 00749.bod file.

I have one version of the file that will show any sector placed in the Universe, but it makes the Universe flat and doesnt show any gate lines. The Universe map appears as a flat grid.

I wanted to see if anyone had created a file that shows any sector box, is 3d, or at least shows the gate lines.

eladan · Post by **eladan** » Sun, 2. Dec 07, 01:41

CaptG wrote:I've already created the Universe... its just that my new sectors don't show up on the Vanilla universe map. The Universe map being the 00749.bod file.

I have one version of the file that will show any sector placed in the Universe, but it makes the Universe flat and doesnt show any gate lines. The Universe map appears as a flat grid.

I wanted to see if anyone had created a file that shows any sector box, is 3d, or at least shows the gate lines.

There's supposed to be a version of it in 03.dat. Have you tried extracting that one and looking at it?

I've just had a look, and I can't see 00749.bod in 03.dat, but there is a objects\v\0749.pbd. I seem to recall hearing you can convert pbd to bod, but I'm no modder - check the sticky or do a search on it (unless some kind modder soul here answers it first.)

Looking further, since it makes sense that it would have changed with Bala Gi, there is another version in 08.dat, which should have the new sectors from 2.0. Same location, objects\v\00749.pbd.

HTH.

TEKing66 · Post by **TEKing66** » Sun, 2. Dec 07, 02:08

CaptG, I believe that this is the tool that Cycrow was talking about.

I dug around the net and found it, tried it as well. It does what you want. But, the map that it creates is only 2D in the game. It is a starting place however, you might be able to take the file it outputs and modify it in gmax to get what you want.

File name you will be looking for is "g749_V014.rar"

here's a link to where I found it;
http://www.madxhawk.com/downloads.php?v ... d7b28fa6c5

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Sun, 2. Dec 07, 04:17

ok well i clicked the download button and another page came up, but it doesnt download. Is there something else i need to click on? I cant read the page because it is not in English.

TEKing66 · Post by **TEKing66** » Sun, 2. Dec 07, 08:21

try this one, the download link is in the first post. I just tried it and it was going to download the correct file. It is from the german forum, but the software has english text and an english readme.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=156854

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Sun, 2. Dec 07, 20:51

Ok I tried using the program. It generated a new 00749.bod file but when I try to look at the Universe map in-game it crashes to the desktop.

Did I not do something right?

Command line that I used for the program was:

D:/gen749.exe D:/Xtended_Universe.xml

Did I miss somthing?

TEKing66 · Post by **TEKing66** » Mon, 3. Dec 07, 15:02

Not sure, looks like that would be OK.

However, when I used it for my little map. I copied the 00749.bod file into the folder that the program was located in and used the command as follows.

In the terminal window I changed to the drive the program was in, then switched to the folder it's located in and ran the command. my command line looked kinda like this (using your setup as an example).

"D:/>gen749.exe Xtended_Universe.xml"

One other thing I did, maybe this is the issue too. I edited the gen749.ini file.

There are a few things in here that need to be set. Below is a copy of the .ini file I used. You might check this against your .ini to see the differences. The changes thst I made were to the "Boxing of sectors", "Names of sectors" and "Geyty" sections, I believe the original setting was "Std", I changed them to "Map".

Code: Select all

; Configurator gen_.bod (c) CheckerTwo, 2006
; 27.01.06
;
 [ System ]
; Section contains the constants, necessary for the scaling and
; the trimming of the exterior view of the map of galaxy
; 
; If OutFile not empty, is be generated file from ukazannm by name,
; otherwise the name of output file will coincide with the name of map
;
OutFile = "00749.bod"

; 
; Dimensions of galaxy
; For Khe - 24, 20. This is maximum size. It is possible to make less

Galaxy = 24, 21 

; 
; Parameter StdMap indicates the section, from which is taken "standard" map
; In the section indicated are stored the information about the sectors, information
; on which must be introduced 00"ya9..bod. Passed on this
; to the map of sector, into the baud file they will have only an information o
; the position of boxing. 
; It is possible to assign its map on the means and the similarity
; (cm section StdMapXT, StdMapX2, StdMapX3 below). 
;
StdMap = StdMapX3
 
;
; Coordinate sizes are obtained from the the original OF 00"ya9..bod.
; Two numbers: the minimum - maximum
; 
; The step of the arrangement of boxings will be calculated from the formula
; delta_.x = (max_.x - min_.x) / galaxy_.x
; delta_.y = (max_.y - min_.y) / galaxy_.y
;
; average distance to the camera = (max_.z - min_.z)/2
;
 SizeX = -36500, 190200
 SizeY = -84000, 54000
 SizeZ = -9000, 24400

;
; Boxings of sectors
; 
; To derive the boxings of sectors
; Map - to derive only those that on XML- map
; All - to derive all possible (full map)
;
Box = Map 

; 
; Names of sectors
; 
; To derive the names of sectors
; Off - not to derive
; Std - to derive only for standard sectors (StdMap)
; Map - to derive those that on XML- map
; All - to derive all possible (full map)
;
Title = Map 

; 
; Shift of inscription (name sector) relative to boxing
; First number - absolute shift
; Second number - additional shift for chetnykh/nechetnykh stolyutsov
;
TtlShiftX = 100, 0 ;
 TtlShiftY = 3200, -700 ;
 TtlShiftZ = -1200, 0 ;
 
; 
; Additional turning of inscription
; Value 0.02 assigns the turning of approximately -4 degrees
;
 TtlRotate = 0.02000 

; 
; Geyty
; 
; To derive geyty
; Off - not to introduce
; Std - to derive only for standard sectors (StdMap)
; Map - to derive those that on XML- map
; All - to derive all possible (full map)
;
Gate = Map 

; 
; Shifts for geytov.
; On coordinates X, Y, Z 
GateL = -3600, 0, -300 ; the western gates 
GateR = 3600, 0, -300 ; the eastern gates 
GateU = 0, 3600, -300 ; the northern gates 
GateD = 0, -3600, -300 ; the southern gates [ StdMapXT ]

Debug = $30000

[StdMapXT]
; 
; Standard map KHT, given in koodinatakh 24 X 20
; Each bit answers for its gates in the sector
; 0 - northern
; 1 - southern
; 2 - western
; 3 - eastern
; If sector does not have geytov, but it is present on the map,
; it it is possible to mark 0
; 
; 	123456789012345678901234 
01 = "ACCEEE6 2 2" 
02 = "BE63B73 9E5" 
03 = "BFF797B6 3" 
04 = "BF7B63BDC6 AC5" 
05 = "BFFF733 96 3" 
06 = "BD5B797 96 a5" 
07 = "9EE79CD6 BCCC5" 
08 = "9D7 3 a5" 
09 = "3 3 a5" 
10 = "9CCCDC5" 
11 = "" 
12 = "" 
13 = "" 
14 = "" 
15 = "" 
16 = "" 
17 = "" 
18 = "" 
19 = "" 
20 = "" 

[ StdMapX2 ]
; 
; Standard map Kh2
; 
; 	123456789012345678901234 
01 = "ACCEEE6         86 2    "
02 = "BE63B73          9E5    "
03 = "BFF797B6 2        3     "
04 = "BF7B63BDC7      AC5     "
05 = "BFFF733  96     3       "
06 = "BD5B797   96 2 A5       "
07 = "9EE79CDE4  BCDC5        "
08 = " 9D7   3  A5            "
09 = "   3 2 3 A5             "
10 = "   9CDCDC5              "
11 = "                        "
12 = "              0 0       "
13 = "               0        "
14 = "              0 0       "
15 = "                        "
16 = "                        "
17 = "                        "
18 = "                        "
19 = "                        "
20 = "                        "

[ StdMapX3 ]
; 
; map Khe
; 
; 	123456789012345678901234 
01 = "ACCEEEE      2  86 2    "
02 = "BE63B73      D6  9E5    "
03 = "BFF797B6 A4   3   3     "
04 = "BF7B63BDC7    9CEC7     "
05 = "BFF7333  96  2  BC7     "
06 = "BD5B797   96 3 A5 9E4   "
07 = "9EE7BEDE4  BCDC7   3    "
08 = "AFD711 3  A5   9ECC7    "
09 = "13 3 2 BCE5     3  3    "
10 = " 9CFCDCDC7        A5    "
11 = "   3     3        1     "
12 = " 8E5     3    0 000     "
13 = "  3      3     0        "
14 = "8EFC    EFE   0 0       "
15 = " 97     BFD4            "
16 = "  3    AD5              "
17 = "  1    1                "
18 = "                        "
19 = "                        "
20 = "                        "

After running it created the 00749.bod inside the programs folder, where "gen749.exe" is located. I the moved this .bod file to my X3 folder under "X3 REUNION\objects\cut" it must be in that folder.
Hope that helps!

On a side note, if you are using the "Firefox" web browser. You can download a plugin for it called "translator" that is a language translator.
I use it to check out things in the german forum. It does a very good job at translating other languages to english. (just some info I thought you might find useful.

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Tue, 4. Dec 07, 00:00

No luck.

Program generates the 00749.bod file
I place it in the objects/cut folder in the last .cat file.
Game loads.

Game crashes to desktop when I try to view the Universe map.

TEKing66 · Post by **TEKing66** » Tue, 4. Dec 07, 05:25

no sure man, I didn't place mine in a .cat file, just left it in "X3 - Reunion/objects/cut". The game found it and ran fine. You might PM Cycrow see if he has any ideas. Wish I could be of more help, but I'm afraid I don't know what to tell you now.

Hope you find an answer.

eladan · Post by **eladan** » Tue, 4. Dec 07, 05:39

... Or you can do what I suggested several posts up, and extract one of the 00749.pbd files from the cat/dats using doubleshadows mod manager. I've since learnt that they are the packed form of 00749.bod, and the mod manager should also be able to unpack them.

Phasic · Post by **Phasic** » Tue, 4. Dec 07, 10:11

You could try http://forum2.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=166320. It's not in-game and won't show the sector positions in 3d the same way as the in-game map. But it does show the gate connections.

edit: nvm didn't understand what you were trying to accomplish well enough.

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Tue, 4. Dec 07, 16:10

I've tried everything suggested so far and nothing has worked. Game will load and then crashes when I try to view the Universe map.

The 'flat grid' file that I had been using works fine, but it doesnt show the gate routes between sectors. I wanted a map that would at least show the gate routes.

Ok, I may be wrong but isn't the file 'objects/cut/00749.pbd' the in-game universe map?

Because there is another file 'objects/v/00749.pbd'.