Some questions about math

[ubuntufreakdragon]

I could use the squareroot function in a non distance usecase for calculating priorities (it moves values close to one but lower together)
btw. what is the value range of relprice, I guess -1 to 1, am I correct?
The idea:

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<set_value name="$offer.sortvalue" exact="offer.relprice+0.25*sqrt($offer.price/$storedmaxprice)" />

[w.evans]

looks like -2 to 2. normal range -1 to 1, but extends to -2, +2 taking discounts and commissions into account.

[ubuntufreakdragon]

is there a diffence between buy an selloffers?
so for both -1 means minprice +1 max price of the ware?

[w.evans]

is there a diffence between buy an selloffers?
so for both -1 means minprice +1 max price of the ware?

Doesn't look like there's a difference. And, yup, -1 minprice, +1 maxprice, 0 average, < -1 below min, > +1 above max.

0 being average is important, i think. Would mean that if there were a ware defined so that the average price is not the mean between min and max, the points at which relprice shifts down vs up wouldn't be symmetrical.

[ubuntufreakdragon]

Are construction offers genereatet by the CV or the station?
If I want to get explicitly construction resource offers by <match_buyer> how would I do it.

[ubuntufreakdragon]

do I need to use the xml replace system if I change the hole file?

[Tyrant597]

Are construction offers genereatet by the CV or the station?
If I want to get explicitly construction resource offers by <match_buyer> how would I do it.

I'm not at home right now, but I think
<match_class class.buildstorage

[ubuntufreakdragon]

how to write a diff which replaces the hole file? (for testing) (I know how to write normal diffs but this one allways gives me node not found if I try to use replace

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
<aiscript name="trade.find.commander" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="aiscripts.xsd">
  <params>
  ....
</aiscript>

This now works:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
<diff xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" > 
  <replace sel="//aiscript">
<aiscript name="trade.find.commander" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="aiscripts.xsd">
  <params>
  ....
</aiscript>
  </replace>
</diff>

edit found it, I forgott about the //for the root

[Vim Razz]

is there a diffence between buy an selloffers?
so for both -1 means minprice +1 max price of the ware?

Doesn't look like there's a difference. And, yup, -1 minprice, +1 maxprice, 0 average, < -1 below min, > +1 above max.

0 being average is important, i think. Would mean that if there were a ware defined so that the average price is not the mean between min and max, the points at which relprice shifts down vs up wouldn't be symmetrical.

Can confirm. I've been chasing down problems with trade.find.free for the last two weeks (spoiler: 3 logic issues, and some structural stuff), so this is still pretty fresh to me.

It's also worth noting that discounts are not factored into $offer.relativeprice or $offer.unitprice. I haven't checked to see if or when they get applied later, but I would assume that if they do that it's at the time of purchase/sales?

As a side note: the relativeprice range is something that's changed in X4 compared to Rebirth (where it's 0 to 2, with 1 being average).

Are construction offers genereatet by the CV or the station?
If I want to get explicitly construction resource offers by <match_buyer> how would I do it.

I'm not at home right now, but I think
<match_class class.buildstorage

Is match_class a valid search expression? I'm not familiar with that one.

$offer.buyer.isclass.buildstorage is the Boolean. No Idea how that fits into a match expression, though.

@ubuntufreakdragon : also, buy offers are issued by the build storage unit itself, not the station or the CV.

[Tyrant597]

Is match_class a valid search expression? I'm not familiar with that one.

$offer.buyer.isclass.buildstorage is the Boolean. No Idea how that fits into a match expression, though.

@ubuntufreakdragon : also, buy offers are issued by the build storage unit itself, not the station or the CV.

My bad <match class="class.buildstorage"/>

[ubuntufreakdragon]

Than I'm lucky my usecase excludes discounts and the range itself I only needed to know how much the values could differ.
btw. I'm working on trade.find.comander can I see your trade.find.free?
here is mine (wip version) https://www.dropbox.com/s/hg2cf15p8760m ... er.7z?dl=1

[Vim Razz]

btw. I'm working on trade.find.comander can I see your trade.find.free?
here is mine (wip version) https://www.dropbox.com/s/hg2cf15p8760m ... er.7z?dl=1

Sure, later tonight or tomorrow after I've had a chance to clean it up a little. A the moment it's still a bit... messy... with a lot of outdated comments and stuff.

EDIT: I do very much appreciate that you removed that obnoxious relative price filter from line 145 (v1.5 release). I've seen more confused complaints here and on reddit resulting from the effects that has than any other single line of code than I can think of. Aside from that, I'd been meaning to look at trade.find.commander after trade.find.free, but I haven't got there yet, so I don't know much about it.

[ubuntufreakdragon]

any idea about the squareroot?

[Vim Razz]

sqrt() is listed as a standard math operator in the MD Script guide, so I don't know of any reason why it might not work there.

Have you been having problems with it? tbh, I'm not really sure what your question is

Also, I'll be sending a link for my current trade.find.free experiment in a pm. It's still very "WIP - Testing Only", so I'm not interested in someone randomly downloading it and complaining about all the debuglog spam (which there is still a lot of right now... ). Or worse, trying to use it in their normal game -- it's not ready for that sort of thing yet.

[euclid]

Vim Razz is right, the sqrt is part of the math section in the MD Guide and for me to works just fine. However, I'm not entirely sure on what you want to do with it. For numbers the result is unique

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sqrt test:  sqrt(2) = 1.41421 sqrt(1254/397) = 1.73205

but for values that have a dimension (like time, credits, length) the result depends of the input format

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sqrt test:  sqrt($AmountS/$AmountB) = 0  sqrt(($AmountS)f/($AmountB)f) = 0.310851

Cheers Euclid

[ApoxNM]

btw. I'm working on trade.find.comander can I see your trade.find.free?
here is mine (wip version) https://www.dropbox.com/s/hg2cf15p8760m ... er.7z?dl=1

Sure, later tonight or tomorrow after I've had a chance to clean it up a little. A the moment it's still a bit... messy... with a lot of outdated comments and stuff.

EDIT: I do very much appreciate that you removed that obnoxious relative price filter from line 145 (v1.5 release). I've seen more confused complaints here and on reddit resulting from the effects that has than any other single line of code than I can think of. Aside from that, I'd been meaning to look at trade.find.commander after trade.find.free, but I haven't got there yet, so I don't know much about it.

Hi there, I have been following this post, have you made any progressions on your script?