Zones/Loading Screen Clarification...?

[Argonaught.]

There are no loading screens once you're in-game. While you can't leave a superhighway, you still have control of your ship inside it and it's certainly not a loading screen, as you will see. Even gate transitions are pretty much seamless.

I was under the impression we could leave the superhighways.
Something was said ages back about exploration/mining possibilities outside the boundries of those routes and beacons would be used as a way to mark spots there.

If i'm wrong when did it change?

Edit: I see there's Local highways, which is obviously the one i had in mind.
it's a true bummer that the space between the Superhighways is offlimits, I was expecting a totally open space even between all the highways.

[Vandragorax]

You can't leave SUPER-highways, but you can leave regular Highways. The difference is that super highways will be taking you vast distances (and act somewhat in place of a loading screen) whereas regular highways can be broken out of anywhere to explore different zones within each system.

[Eleutherios]

There are no loading screens once you're in-game. While you can't leave a superhighway, you still have control of your ship inside it and it's certainly not a loading screen, as you will see. Even gate transitions are pretty much seamless.

I thought it was said that you can exit out of a highway at anytime and go explore the in-between areas of the clusters/systems what-have-yous


Well based on ^^^^^^ post I redact my statement/question.

[Earth Ultimatum IV.]

There are no loading screens once you're in-game. While you can't leave a superhighway, you still have control of your ship inside it and it's certainly not a loading screen, as you will see. Even gate transitions are pretty much seamless.

I thought it was said that you can exit out of a highway at anytime and go explore the in-between areas of the clusters/systems what-have-yous

You cant leave superhighways (blue), but you can leave the local highway (green).

[Cormyr]

I thought it was said that you can exit out of a highway at anytime and go explore the in-between areas of the clusters/systems what-have-yous

Superhighways =/= highways.

[Argonaught.]

Super highways are the loading area, so anyone saying it isn't needs to stop. I'm looking your way CBJ.

Stupid, stupid devs, Should have just left the old gate system in and the loading screen as it was. Instead we will all be forced to be stuck inside wormhole type thing with other lanes for an undetermined time to get to the next area, Possibly will take longer than jumping through a gates in the older X games.

To Fix it, let us leave the superhighways whenever we want to.

[Vandragorax]

Why are you trying to propose a "fix" to a non-problem? Are you trolling on purpose? Cos it sure seems so.

The stupidity astounds me...

And what are you going to find if you could leave a super highway part-way through? You will be out in open space with millions or more lightyears of travel to the nearest 'thing' so you then just gonna sit there and fly in nothingness for a few millenia? Sure you've really thought this through compared to the actual game designers at Egosoft? *sigh*

[Argonaught.]

Why are you trying to propose a "fix" to a non-problem? Are you trolling on purpose? Cos it sure seems so.

The stupidity astounds me...

Have you played X Before?

They say it's a totally huge universe and it's all open...then they lock you into a superhighway, how is that stupidity on my part when for years they lead us to believe you could leave them?

Stupidity knows stupidity so welcome to the club stupid

[Vandragorax]

Ok now you are just trolling and totally missing the point on purpose. Get real please.

If you want to travel between two ends of a star system or between star systems, use a super highway, if you want to travel shorter distances or cut out halfway to explore some new place, use the regular highways.

You are creating a non-issue out of thin air by purposefully interpreting the information incorrectly.

[Argonaught.]

[quote="BlackDemon"
And what are you going to find if you could leave a super highway part-way through? You will be out in open space with millions or more lightyears of travel to the nearest 'thing' so you then just gonna sit there and fly in nothingness for a few millenia? Sure you've really thought this through compared to the actual game designers at Egosoft? *sigh*[/quote]

I'd find what was promised, rare rocks to mine, stuff to explore, ruined things lost out there, the list of things is vast, and whose to say i don't want to have my base far far away from everyone(NPC) else?

[Argonaught.]

Ok now you are just trolling and totally missing the point on purpose. Get real please.

If you want to travel between two ends of a star system or between star systems, use a super highway, if you want to travel shorter distances or cut out halfway to explore some new place, use the regular highways.

You are creating a non-issue out of thin air by purposefully interpreting the information incorrectly.

Tell me what I see wrong please, you seem to know alot more apparently.

[Vandragorax]

You find those things along the regular highway paths, the super-highways are just for long-distance travel between key areas.

Stop purposefully confusing the issue. And I'm done replying to you here, you are just trolling and not actually absorbing any words through your eyes into your brain.

[Argonaught.]

I'm not confusing anything at all:

Fact 1 = Local highways you can leave - great
Fact 2 = Superhighway you cannot leave - not great
Fact 3 = The Devs promised a totally open and seemless universe
Fact 4 = Being locked into a superhighway is not appealing at all

Where's the confusion?

[AkrionXxarr]

I'm not confusing anything at all:

Fact 1 = Local highways you can leave - great
Fact 2 = Superhighway you cannot leave - not great
Fact 3 = The Devs promised a totally open and seemless universe
Fact 4 = Being locked into a superhighway is not appealing at all

Where's the confusion?

Well if the transition between places the superhighway takes you doesn't pause to load is fits the definition of being seamless.

[Argonaught.]

I'm not confusing anything at all:

Fact 1 = Local highways you can leave - great
Fact 2 = Superhighway you cannot leave - not great
Fact 3 = The Devs promised a totally open and seemless universe
Fact 4 = Being locked into a superhighway is not appealing at all

Where's the confusion?

Well if the transition between places the superhighway takes you doesn't pause to load is fits the definition of being seamless.

True, but I predict cuts somewhere when entering it or in it. stutters inside will be the give away.

[outlawgb]

they have allways made it clear you could not leave super highways

[Vandragorax]

I'm not confusing anything at all:

Fact 1 = Local highways you can leave - great
Fact 2 = Superhighway you cannot leave - not great
Fact 3 = The Devs promised a totally open and seemless universe
Fact 4 = Being locked into a superhighway is not appealing at all

Where's the confusion?

You haven't thought it through.

Why do you want to leave a superhighway when you can use a normal one to leave at a certain point if desired? Super ones are just for quicker travel between long distances.

The devs game world has limits like every other game world ever created. You think that they will just create a billion lightyear 'wide' galaxy and let you fly anywhere in it you want? What will you find out there? There will be reams and reams of empty desolate space, so have fun flying for millennia in real time through those.

What's the problem with being locked into a superhighway? You either choose to go in there in the first place knowing full well it will take you to the other side of the galaxy in a short time, or you choose to fly there through the regular highways (if this is even possible, we don't know yet) which could take 100 times longer but give you the opportunity to leave them mid-way.

Please absorb these points before you continue moaning about it because it's getting tiresome.

And to be totally honest, I don't give a crap if you "predict" stutters or cuts in a superhighway. You are going to be loading from one side of a huge game world to the other without a middle transition... with current game tech, some form of background loading is the only way to do it.

I suggest you buy an SSD and then you may not realise your 'dream' of noticing the loading stutter and perhaps can leave your pathetic whining out of the forums.

[Rug]

CBJ's post specifically said :

While you can't leave a superhighway, you still have control of your ship inside it and it's certainly not a loading screen, as you will see.

In X3, the jump gate was a load screen - you could do nothing while the next area loaded. The teasers we have been given so far show that you will still be able to pilot the ship while in the super-highway, and CBJ's comment implies there is at least some form of 'mini-game' taking place at the time.

So the super-highway is a mini-game in place of an old-style load screen.

If that is a load screen to you, then yes, your game will have load screens.

I could be wrong, of course, but that is how I interpret what I have seen and read.

Rug

[Vandragorax]

Yes rug that is the same as my interpretation. I suspect Argonaut is just being flippant with the usual knee-jerk reactions after not having sufficiently absorbed the information presented.

[CBJ]

Enough of the insults, please, whoever they are directed at.

OK, let me re-iterate and clarify once again. You can leave local highways but you cannot leave superhighways. The difference relates to the spaces that you are traveling between. As has been explained before, you can fly anywhere in the space between zones, but you cannot fly in the space between sectors, which is what the superhighways link together. To those insisting that the superhighway is a "loading screen" because you are locked into it, I can assure you that you are wrong. You still have control of your ship, and you can still see the universe zooming by outside. And yes, what you see is real, not a video.

Perhaps the confusion comes because of the way other games work. In X Rebirth there is no "loading" of different chunks of the game universe like there is in some games, because, as we always have done, we keep the whole universe running regardless of whether you are there or not. The sectors are there, the ships and stations are there, and we only get rid of data associated with little details that aren't needed if you can't see them, like animations.

The reason our older games had loading screens at gates was mainly because we had to load a lot of graphical assets in order to show the new sector you were entering, and that took time. With X Rebirth we have the wonderful thing called multi-threading, which means that we can load those assets in the background, mostly before they are even needed, and therefore we have no need for loading screens. And aside from restoring those little details I mentioned, which it can happily do without interrupting your flight, there is nothing else the game has to do at those times.

Edit: OK, unlocking this having removed the trading of insults. If there is any repetition of it then the this thread will be locked too.