[SCR] [X3:TC/AP] [v1.8.9.8] [11/16/2019] MK3 Improvement Reloaded

gnasirator · Post by **gnasirator** » Wed, 19. Jun 13, 21:31

you're sure it is inside the blacklisted sector?
not a neighboring one without gate?

that's odd.

you tried reinstalling? Maybe with the .exe to make sure?

Vayde · Post by **Vayde** » Wed, 19. Jun 13, 21:51

cryptonite1 wrote:
gnasirator wrote:what is their destination when they're violating the blacklist?
some station they're trying to sell or buy stuff inside the blacklisted sectors

so anyone know anything more to help?

Exactly which sector and which station?

What command is the ship running when this happens?

It will be easier for gnasirator to check out the scripts in question if he has a starting point.

cryptonite1 · Post by **cryptonite1** » Wed, 19. Jun 13, 23:22

universal trader command, to heretic's end, Jupiter, Astroid Belt, mostly, and all three are blacklisted by me.

to any station they can sell/buy stuff in those sectors...

can anyone help me figgure out the problem of blacklisting of sectors not working?

traders seem to ignore the whole blacklist feature...

do you have to turn on and how to turn on the blacklist? i only find the "set sectors" no turn on button.

1. I use MARS with them.
2. they are all universal traders.
3. I set the blacklist.

EDIT: interesting fact is Omycron Lyrae is blacklisted too, and they NEVER go there, most commonly the three sectors I mentioned above, Jupiter, Heretic's End, Astroid Belt, and 1 or 2 others.

EDIT: just woke up this morning and one trader died...he's a level 25...sigh... he died in a Xenon sector which I also blacklisted, wth....

gnasirator · Post by **gnasirator** » Thu, 20. Jun 13, 17:50

please upload a save somewhere and provide a link.

and please reinstall using the .exe.
this makes sure, everything is correctly installed.

cryptonite1 · Post by **cryptonite1** » Thu, 20. Jun 13, 18:30

gnasirator wrote:please upload a save somewhere and provide a link.

and please reinstall using the .exe.
this makes sure, everything is correctly installed.

reinstalling MK3? or reinstalling bonus pack? cus i use the .exe file to deinstall and reinstall the bonus pack already

EDIT:got it, i saw an exe file inside the zip of MK3, didnt notice that cus i usually install using plugin manager.

gnasirator · Post by **gnasirator** » Sat, 22. Jun 13, 12:05

yes exactly that one. it deletes all previous Mk3 files before unpacking mine.

As this script is not part of the bonus pack and doesn't rely on its blacklist manager, it is important, not to mix those two together.

cryptonite1 · Post by **cryptonite1** » Thu, 27. Jun 13, 21:22

gnasirator wrote:As this script is not part of the bonus pack and doesn't rely on its blacklist manager, it is important, not to mix those two together.

so you mean ur script will not work with the black list manager from the bonus pack?

gnasirator · Post by **gnasirator** » Fri, 28. Jun 13, 09:33

exactly, simply because I adopted it and use an own variation of it.
Mk3 improved doesn't need any other scripts for full functionality.

cryptonite1 · Post by **cryptonite1** » Fri, 28. Jun 13, 10:01

oh ok, so i think im doing something wrong then, so where or how do you use ur version of the blacklist sector/station feature?

EDIT1: also, seems like I lose money when set to universal traders, works fine with sector traders though. for some reason, my money gets deducted a lot when i switch my traders to universe traders. YES, i know the traders may be upgrading shield or jumpdrive etc, but no, they are fully equipped tuned, and geared. basically i run seta for 10 mins and i lose around 2 million with 3 Lotan as universal traders.

I tried stopping the traders, turning their orders to "none", still lose money, is this issue related to this script? or no? im asking because the only trader related script im using is this, and thought i should point out the issue?

gnasirator · Post by **gnasirator** » Sun, 30. Jun 13, 11:34

this sounds so weird, as no one else has been reporting problems like yours recently so I'd ask you to make sure you have the current version of the script (if unsure, please re-download) and reinstall using the .exe in the archive. Point it to your x3tc folder for TC or your x3tc/addon folder for AP.

Please stop all traders before doing this and save the game. THEN do the reinstallation and THEN restart your traders. No need to install anything else, blacklisting is provided by default.

And please confirm you did this step by step. If those problems still occur, please upload a save somewhere so I can check it out myself.

cryptonite1 · Post by **cryptonite1** » Sun, 30. Jun 13, 17:20

ok got it, ill do it step by step, though i think i already did it before.

just where exactly can you set up the blacklisting for ur improved MK3 script?
or do you not have to set up at all (automatic) ?

I have the current version of the script.

currently im using only sector traders, so i can manage then not to go to dangerous sectors. unversal trader is disaster for me now

sorry if causing any confusion, just cannot really figure it out...

DrBullwinkle · Post by **DrBullwinkle** » Sun, 30. Jun 13, 21:00

It sounds as though you have a bad installation, Cryptonite.

Mk3 Improvement overwrites files vanilla autotrade scripts. It also overwrites Bonus Pack Blacklist Manager scripts.

Therefore, you must reinstall Mk3 Improvement *after* every time that you install the Bonus Pack or verify files in Steam.

cryptonite1 · Post by **cryptonite1** » Sun, 30. Jun 13, 21:37

ok, will the black list feature from the bonus pack still appear?

it will obviously do nothing even if setted according to u guy's description of MK3 OPT overwriting it, am i right?

DrBullwinkle · Post by **DrBullwinkle** » Sun, 30. Jun 13, 21:41

cryptonite1 wrote:am i right?

No.

The blacklist feature is replaced by Mk3 Improvement's blacklist feature.

That is what Mk3 Improvement does -- it replaces vanilla scripts with the same names.

You will still see a blacklist feature, in the same place. But it will be Mk3 Improvement's blacklist, if you have installed it correctly.

cryptonite1 · Post by **cryptonite1** » Sun, 30. Jun 13, 21:43

ok, i get it now, i just reinstalled again, using the .EXE inside the .RAR

lets see how this goes

thank you two for the patience

EDIT: can u tell the difference just by looking at the interface between the 2 (blacklist feature)?

gnasirator · Post by **gnasirator** » Mon, 1. Jul 13, 18:40

there's none. If you installed improved mk3 as latest, you have the new blacklist feature.

It works similarly to the vanilla blacklist, too. But only on the surface. There are some internal improvements and it is adopted to work with my scripts.

Simply try if it works. You could set up a local trader with trade range 0 and blacklist the start sector. It shouldn't find any trades then ...

cryptonite1 · Post by **cryptonite1** » Mon, 1. Jul 13, 20:05

ok, it works fine now, finally, thanks tons~

i think its probably the "bad installation" thats causing stuff to go wrong.~

again, thanks for the patience!

gnasirator · Post by **gnasirator** » Mon, 1. Jul 13, 21:26

welcome, glad that it works now

Raaaak · Post by **Raaaak** » Tue, 9. Jul 13, 20:12

Am I missing something obvious? I'm trying to make my traders start at level 8 as described on page 52 of this thread.

editing 1500-L044.xml
I can not find any value that seems to correspond to starting level. The only values I can see that are set to 1 are threat values of M5 ships and Gun Towers, and there is no id 16 at all as far as I can tell.

Also, do I need to use the X3 editor to change this file or will any decent XML or text editor do?

DrBullwinkle · Post by **DrBullwinkle** » Tue, 9. Jul 13, 20:28

Typo fixed on page 52.

You will need to unpack the .pck. You should be able to do that with something like 7-zip (X3 Editor will work as well).

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[SCR] [X3:TC/AP] [v1.8.9.8] [11/16/2019] MK3 Improvement Reloaded