fiksal wrote: ↑Fri, 1. Dec 23, 19:37
clakclak wrote: ↑Fri, 1. Dec 23, 09:48
I wonder what consequences the fact that Israel
knew about the attack plans a year ago will have for the current government. Obviously blame for the attack still lies fully on Hamas, but if I was an Israeli citizen and learned that my own government knew about what was coming and, for whatever reason, failed to act on it I'd be more than a bit crossed right about now.
I wouldnt go conspiracy route, but I'd say incompetence should be prosecuted as well, assuming there's a strong proof
Also can you access the article? I could read a small snippet of it
mr.WHO wrote: ↑Fri, 1. Dec 23, 19:59
I couldn't read the article - but there need to be specified what "knew" means.
After the terrorist attack, there was a news that Egypt warned Israel about attack, but it might be as well something vague like "Hamas is preparing some kind of attack".
Such vague statemets could be dismissed as "Hamas is always preparing something", so basically secret service the boy who cried wolf.
However, if it was something specific, like "check this Hamas cell" or "attack is sheduled for this specific holiday", then it's completely different story - if Israel would ignore or dismiss something like that, then it's criminal negligence.
As I am not entirely sure about the legality of copying an entirely paywalled article in here, I will give you keynotes with some added quotes from the article:
- Israeli intellegence had a 40 page Hamas document they (Israel) codenamed "Jericho Wall".
- Quote from the article: "
The translated document, which was reviewed by The New York Times, did not set a date for the attack, but described a methodical assault designed to overwhelm the fortifications around the Gaza Strip, take over Israeli cities and storm key military bases, including a division headquarters."
- "Jericho Wall" was, over all, the attack we saw on Oct. 7.
- Quote from the article: "
Hamas followed the blueprint with shocking precision. The document called for a barrage of rockets at the outset of the attack, drones to knock out the security cameras and automated machine guns along the border, and gunmen to pour into Israel en masse in paragliders, on motorcycles and on foot — all of which happened on Oct. 7. The plan also included details about the location and size of Israeli military forces, communication hubs and other sensitive information, raising questions about how Hamas gathered its intelligence and whether there were leaks inside the Israeli security establishment. The document circulated widely among Israeli military and intelligence leaders, but experts determined that an attack of that scale and ambition was beyond Hamas’s capabilities, according to documents and officials. It is unclear whether Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu or other top political leaders saw the document, as well."
- A senior Israeli intellegence veteran analyst with
Unit 8200 was very concerned about the plan before it was enacted
- Her concerns were however dismissed
- Quote from the article: "
On July 6, 2023, the veteran Unit 8200 analyst wrote to a group of other intelligence experts that dozens of Hamas commandos had recently conducted training exercises, with senior Hamas commanders observing.
The training included a dry run of shooting down Israeli aircraft and taking over a kibbutz and a military training base, killing all the cadets. During the exercise, Hamas fighters used the same phrase from the Quran that appeared at the top of the Jericho Wall attack plan [a very specific verse], she wrote in the email exchanges viewed by The Times.
The analyst warned that the drill closely followed the Jericho Wall plan, and that Hamas was building the capacity to carry it out."
Edited a bunch of times to make it more readable use quotes that carry the more important bits of the article.
If you want to read the entire article for yourself, I am afraid you will have to find a way to access it.