X3TC / X3AP Patch 2015

Post by **Cycrow** » Tue, 10. Jan 17, 11:13

The ships worth is its sale price, the amount you would get if you sold it at a shipyard

If you used a ship that you capped, then you would make more money from it. It's not supposed to be for buying a new ship to use, otherwise the mission would be too easy

Graaf · Post by **Graaf** » Wed, 11. Jan 17, 22:29

Cycrow wrote:The ships worth is its sale price, the amount you would get if you sold it at a shipyard

If you used a ship that you capped, then you would make more money from it. It's not supposed to be for buying a new ship to use, otherwise the mission would be too easy

Provided that I, as a trader, already captured the required ship;
Provided that if I didn't, I will have the favour of the RNG when trying to capture the required ship;
Provided that I do not loose any expensive marines trying to capture the required TP;
etc...

And I am not selling him/her a ship. (S)He wants me to get that ship for him.

Alas, not really interesting to do this mission anymore.

RAVEN.myst · Post by **RAVEN.myst** » Wed, 11. Jan 17, 23:44

Although I occasionally (quite often, in fact) found instances of this mission that were quite profitable, sometimes even extremely so [profits in the 100s of %s] (I'm guessing it's affected by faction standing, and/or trade rank, and/or previous history of completing such missions), I generally view them more as a way to garner goodwill - they are decent reputation-boosters, and easy to carry out completely remotely. I most often used this to boost Terran race relations in the early game (once I had parked a Rapier at every Terran shipyard, of course.)

Snafu_X3 · Post by **Snafu_X3** » Thu, 12. Jan 17, 01:14

RAVEN.myst wrote:I generally view them more as a way to garner goodwill

Likewise: unless a seriously profitable opportunity falls into my lap I'll simply take the cash hit & use it as a rep boost - the rep boost will pay off far better in the long term anyway

RAVEN.myst · Post by **RAVEN.myst** » Thu, 12. Jan 17, 01:19

Snafu_X3 wrote:... I'll simply take the cash hit & use it as a rep boost - the rep boost will pay off far better in the long term anyway

Precisely.
I actually like the notion of more nuanced and diverse (and specialised) generic missions - some are profitable cash-wise, some build relations, some offer combat opportunities (renown, loot, ship capturing) and others offer, let's say, opportunities to increase one's knowledge of the geography or markets or some other aspect. I prefer missions not to be optimal on all fronts, makes them too... generic

Ie. I prefer missions to not be "I win" buttons.

UnknownObject · Post by **UnknownObject** » Fri, 7. Apr 17, 19:28

Please, fix the Colossus Hauler: its first person view is broken (the camera is inside the ship) and the distance meter shows false data if the player is inside the ship.
(the thread should not sink)

Post by **X2-Illuminatus** » Fri, 7. Apr 17, 19:33

The "Hauler" variant addendum suggests that this ship is not supposed to be used within the game. So where did you get one?

Sinxar · Post by **Sinxar** » Fri, 7. Apr 17, 22:56

X2-Illuminatus wrote:The "Hauler" variant addendum suggests that this ship is not supposed to be used within the game. So where did you get one?

It spawns in war sectors.

Post by **X2-Illuminatus** » Sat, 8. Apr 17, 10:44

Sinxar wrote:
X2-Illuminatus wrote:The "Hauler" variant addendum suggests that this ship is not supposed to be used within the game. So where did you get one?
It spawns in war sectors.

That's the actual problem then.

Graaf · Post by **Graaf** » Sat, 15. Apr 17, 22:42

Over 2 years old now. When can we expect to see ...something?

Post by **CBJ** » Sun, 16. Apr 17, 20:50

I refer you to the answer I gave less than a week ago.

Graaf · Post by **Graaf** » Sun, 16. Apr 17, 21:40

CBJ wrote:I refer you to the answer I gave less than a week ago.

So, in short: Never.

Sirrobert · Post by **Sirrobert** » Sun, 16. Apr 17, 21:44

Graaf wrote:
CBJ wrote:I refer you to the answer I gave less than a week ago.
So, in short: Never.

It's IN beta patch, and you can download it already.
So in short: As soon as the beta patch is done.

You just need to adjust your perception of 'something' to reality.

plynak · Post by **plynak** » Wed, 19. Apr 17, 21:55

Well, nice job with the patch. You screwed all my custom ship changes. But hey, I got a controller support. Yeah, that was really something this old game needed... I think I am done with Egosoft for good.

phantomrock2 · Post by **phantomrock2** » Wed, 19. Apr 17, 22:02

I wish could have a gaming software outfit & promise my very loyal customers updates that just about havent been delivered or nullifies the players' settings. I can only wonder how I'd keep my loyal fanbase with actions such as these. I'll be watching for the X-4 title to see if there is some redemption because there were so many ways to take TC & AP & make it even more player friendly after all the plots were completed.

Post by **CBJ** » Wed, 19. Apr 17, 22:14

Graaf wrote:So, in short: Never.

So in short, don't bother asking if you are going to take whatever answer is given and twist it into something that was not in any way implied. Seriously, people wonder why they don't get much personal interaction from developers. This kind of behaviour is why.

Sirrobert · Post by **Sirrobert** » Wed, 19. Apr 17, 22:19

plynak wrote:Well, nice job with the patch. You screwed all my custom ship changes. But hey, I got a controller support. Yeah, that was really something this old game needed... I think I am done with Egosoft for good.

Are you seriously surprised that updates mess with your mods?
Welcome to the real world. This has been announced a VERY long time in advance. You could have prepared super easy.

phantomrock2 · Post by **phantomrock2** » Wed, 19. Apr 17, 22:24

Thats why i never go MOD

Post by **Nanook** » Thu, 20. Apr 17, 00:12

plynak wrote:Well, nice job with the patch. You screwed all my custom ship changes. But hey, I got a controller support. Yeah, that was really something this old game needed... I think I am done with Egosoft for good.

You could always go back to the Caldari border zone in EVE. Oh wait, you can't even do custom ships there.

Seriously? Expecting Egosoft to know exactly what changes you've made and cater to your specific changes? Unbelievable!

Silverbox · Post by **Silverbox** » Thu, 20. Apr 17, 00:27

I have well over 200 hours in my current X3AP game and am running various scripts like dockts and enhanced briefings along with a number of scripts installed by the plugin manager. I am scared to run the game in Steam as i'm afraid the update will remove these scripts or screw them up. Is this likely to happen?

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X3TC / X3AP Patch 2015