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Commander, scans indicate a possible refuge in the next sector.

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There's a friendly pirate base, should a jumpdrive be needed for the Tyr, the donating ship may find temporary sanctuary there, not that we're volunteering of course.

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TEA_Cypher wrote:Any chance of filming this one nuke.... would be an interesting watch
I second that motion, as long as it doesn't interfere with the operation itself. It would be a shame if filming the op would bring an untimely end to Steve...I mean, where else am i going to get that much spacefuel as i do right now?
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Steve is capping a wrong ship. Tyr is mediocre, Skirnir is a total devastation via nukes... I wonder if the capture team will get some shadow missiles thrown its way? :twisted:
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kurush wrote:Steve is capping a wrong ship. Tyr is mediocre, Skirnir is a total devastation via nukes... I wonder if the capture team will get some shadow missiles thrown its way? :twisted:
Where's he going to get the ammunition for the Skirnirs though?
Skirnirs are great, but you can't exactly make a proud entrance, declare sector wide nuclear death, and then inundate the area with two missiles... :)
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Post by yoink »

Hey NS,

assuming you have any meatshields left after this one, I was thinking that the Khaak M2 that trounced you earlier would look mighty pretty as a fleet ship...


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yoink wrote:Assuming you have any meatshields left after this one, I was thinking that the Khaak M2 that trounced you earlier would look mighty pretty as a fleet ship...
Khaak cap ships can't be boarded, can they?
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kurush wrote:Steve is capping a wrong ship. Tyr is mediocre, Skirnir is a total devastation via nukes... I wonder if the capture team will get some shadow missiles thrown its way? :twisted:
Besides the issue of not being able to build Shadow missiles, the only other missile that the Skinir can use, the Ghoul, is bugged to hell in 2.5. It has a range of 5km and a top speed of 45 m/s.

Even the Tyr can be called so-so in the hands of the AI. The damage of the front PSP battery is -less- than a Commonwealth destroyer with PPC's -unless- the player charges the banks, which N-S wont do, unless I read the DiD rules wrong.

Considering N-S liked his Shrike so much, the Aegir would be a nice addition, a good multi-role frigate, but hes looking for a destroyer.
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Post by RUMgunner »

AFAIK,the Tyr hasn't got a big enough cargohold, to fit PSP's wherever it could. The front psp are truly not THAT Powerful, but when it comes to exchanging broadsides, It makes more than up for it. For example,to storm a Xenon Gate, with a Q left and right, and one a little further ahead, this thing even trounces that OTAS christmas tree. :) or fitting ssc's makes it one heck of a swarmkiller, (looking at a Khaak sector) :wink:
The skirnir is ok, as long as it can face the Enemy head-on, but it has the turning speed of a sun. and is almost unprotected from attacks from the sides,or its rear. And the Ghoul, oh well, that thing came out broken, with game release, and has never been fixed, lol

I dunno, about that Odin,though, depending on its loadout, or amount of fighters, it could have made one nice mobile base. Good shields, good cargo. pretty decent self defense, and room for 44 fighters.I would probably have tried to capture it. But with my luck, that Tyr, would have jumped right through the accelerator, as soon as i ordered to launch the pods.Turning this mission into a horribly messy fight with huge losses, mostly on my side, i guess. :oops:
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eldyranx3 wrote: Besides the issue of not being able to build Shadow missiles, the only other missile that the Skinir can use, the Ghoul, is bugged to hell in 2.5. It has a range of 5km and a top speed of 45 m/s.
Not true at all. As of 2.1 and probably earlier, Ghoul actually has a speed of 450m/s and a range similar to that of the Flail (this comes directly from the game files). Trouble is, there are probably no factories for the Ghoul (unless GOD has been merciful) so they are effectively useless because it's impossible to get enough of them.

Back on topic, I think N-S is right to go for the Tyr. I have one myself: it's extremely badass and can take a lot of punishment. It might be a good idea to pick up an Aegir at some point as well, as it is blindingly quick by M7 standards (132m/s, fastest M7) and also has the largest cargo bay of any M7. So it can refuel the Tyr easily when it's not chucking Wraith missiles around.

In fact the only weakness of the Aegir is its reliance on missiles against capital ships, but the Tyr can help it out there :twisted:
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+1 for videoing it. A highlight reel would be awesome.
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imperium3 wrote:Back on topic, I think N-S is right to go for the Tyr. I have one myself: it's extremely badass and can take a lot of punishment. It might be a good idea to pick up an Aegir at some point as well, as it is blindingly quick by M7 standards (132m/s, fastest M7) and also has the largest cargo bay of any M7. So it can refuel the Tyr easily when it's not chucking Wraith missiles around.

In fact the only weakness of the Aegir is its reliance on missiles against capital ships, but the Tyr can help it out there :twisted:
Knowing N-S he'll probably take the Tyr and an Aegir AND a Skirnir and just for the hell of it, find something else to cap. After that he'll probably level a few sectors to punish the Terrans for stretching this out so long. Remember, there is no overkill.[ external image ]

I've already said this but +1 for video and can I be one of the people bringing down the shields? Please, please please.

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Sr. Slug's unicorn-->Tyr :headbang:
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98abaile wrote:+1 for videoing it. A highlight reel would be awesome.
It's a nice idea, and the last one was fine because I was doing the job personally, but not really suited when micromanaging several things all over the place.



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133 - Use Of Weapons (pt.1)


All the excitement has caught the attention of the smaller Vali patrol which has diverted from it's activities up north and is heading down to intercept. It's unclear what they think they can do given I've just orchestrated the obliteration of an Odin and seventeen of their fellow Vali. In their situation I'd be beating a hasty retreat with a view to not returning without some serious reinforcements, but I suppose you can't fault them for determination. Still I've the people in place for just this sort of intervention so while 'Shorter Bus' and Red Wing handle that end of things..

http://dbbr17626.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/steve/133-1.jpg

.. that leaves me free to concentrate on matters at hand.


Operation: 'It'll all end in Tyrs'


First job as always in these matters will be to seperate the target from it's escort. I'd originally planned to ignore the two underequipped Skirnirs and just concentrate on the ones with active missiles onboard, but after the Odin intervention I've rethought that one. I'm going to be busy enough handling the Tyr without having additional ships getting in the way so better they be removed entirely. The Tyr has some substantial shielding so I don't feel the need to be particularly gentle about it, at least not in the opening stages. Finesse should be used where required of course, but unless you aim to eat it then the old adage about using a sledgehammer to crack a nut doesn't always hold true. If the only desired result is destruction then in my mind a sledgehammer is just as good as an asteroid travelling a significant fraction of c.

Correct use of weapons is crucial in all operations so the four Skirnirs were targetted first with the Hades 'Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall', the new guy on team, providing two Tomahawk barrages to each. If you're going to blow stuff up, look good doing it! With an effective destructive potential of 10Gj with each salvo and just 8gj of shielding and almost no point defense I'm fairly sure I could count on both the destruction of the Skirnirs even with a couple warheads not impacting and there to be likely several loose Tomahawks roaming about looking for a target afterwards.

Similarly with dealing with the Thors which requires a different weapon, the Flail, it's good to know that with the primary target destroyed they'll seek the next nearest enemy to chase so the smart commander will ensure that in so much as possible the next nearest enemy is the one he wants destroyed next. Now the Tyr was flying in X-formation with the Skirnirs as it's nearest escort and the Thors taking up the outer escort. So with this plan in mind the Thors on the extreme ends of the four arms of the Tyrs X-formation were assigned as primary targets for the four barrages of Flails from 'Providence'. The aimed effect of this then is that the Flails will take out the Thor on the tip of each arm of the X-formation and then when seeking for the next nearest target will slowly work their way down each arm destroying each Thor as they go.

The result of all this is some loose Tomahawks from the destroyed Skirnirs and some loose Flails from the Thors all of which will expend their wrath on the next and, if all goes to plan, only remaining target, the Tyr. Assuming this to be the case then some care is still required, even with the sledgehammer approach, so despite the significant megatonnage fired it's direction the total, in even the most optimistic hit projections, was never in position to compromise the shields of the Tyr entirely..

http://dbbr17626.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/steve/133-2.jpg

.. which is more than can be said for it's escorts.

It's always good to have a plan. Even when it doesn't go 100% the way you'd like it sometimes 90% is almost as good. Once the expanding plasma clouds had cleared and the remaining warheads had found themselves a target a quick check showed the Tyr, four Skirnirs and thirteen Thors were now just the Tyr and two Thors. Not too bad, even a little over 7.2Gj of shielding remaining on the Tyr so well within safe margins. 7.2 Gj is quite handily the exact damage potential of a 3x barrage of Hammer torpedoes so just a couple Flail salvoes to pick off those last two Thors and then 'Providence' can send in some heavies..

http://dbbr17626.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/steve/133-3.jpg

..and that..

http://dbbr17626.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/steve/133-4.jpg

..should near enough hammer the shields right down to a point where the boys from Blue wing can make their move.

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Expertly orchestrated as always N-S. This is gonna end in Tyr's. For the Terrans :twisted:

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If the only desired result is destruction then in my mind a sledgehammer is just as good as an asteroid travelling a significant fraction of c.
I got a good chuckle out of this.. :) reminds me of a couple books I've read.. not to mention a movie or two.
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..should near enough hammer the shields right down to a point where the boys from Blue wing can make their move.

Go Blues!
So, I'm about to go up against some Flak bearing beast in order to keep it's shields down. :o

Infact, I doubt NS saves his game and does something else, so chances are I'm already dead... and the Tyr is already in his hands!
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Post by masrock »

Gah! A cliffhanger, true to the form of the old Flash Gordon movies.

Now if only the Captain of the Tyr was called Ming The Merciless...

Go Steve Go!..... Go Steve Go!..... Go Steve Go!.....


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(What do you mean Steve is approaching? Open fire! All weapons! Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body)

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I can just see the Terran captain of the Tyr witnessing the mass and nearly simultaneous destruction of his escort, calmly ordering all weapons hot, and very casually sidling off the bridge into his personal escape pod.

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