X3TC and Windows XP 64-Bit Problem

Almost Tactful · Post by **Almost Tactful** » Fri, 5. Dec 08, 04:21

Hello guys, first off what a great game

I have a slight problem though, I am getting about half the frames per second that I should be. I'm only getting about 30-40 with all the setting maxed and I should be hitting 60-80 no problem. From what I can tell on another forum I frequent (we have an X3 bench thread) it is in fact XP-64 bit that is hindering us. Anyway, I'm not sure is someone can help but here is my system specs:

Intel Q6600 @ 3.6gHz
ATi HIS HD4870 @ 790 core 4400 RAM
8GB Mushkin DDR2 PC6400 @ 960mHz and 4-4-3-10
2 X 150GB WD Raptor HDD's in RAID0
DFI LanParty LT X48 T2R
Windows XP Pro 64-Bit
800W PSU
Antec 900

Oh and I'm using X3 from steam so it is still the 1.2.1 version

eladan · Post by **eladan** » Fri, 5. Dec 08, 06:13

People with 1.3 do seem to be reporting performance improvements. You'll have to wait for Steam to provide the 1.3 update, of course, but hopefully it's something to look forward to.

Almost Tactful · Post by **Almost Tactful** » Fri, 5. Dec 08, 13:45

Cool, thanks for the heads up

some1 · Post by **some1** » Fri, 5. Dec 08, 22:18

I am running Steam Version of 1.21 on XP-64 without problems. My old game is kinda slow, but the new start is UBER fast.

Post by **Nanook** » Sat, 6. Dec 08, 02:01

Almost Tactful wrote:Hello guys, first off what a great game

I have a slight problem though, I am getting about half the frames per second that I should be.....

Give us your dxdiag report as mentioned in the sticky at the top of the forum. Someone may be able to spot the problem.

Almost Tactful · Post by **Almost Tactful** » Sat, 6. Dec 08, 15:42

Totally missed that,

here ya go:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 12/6/2008, 09:40:21
Machine name: WESTWOOD
Operating System: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition (5.2, Build 3790) Service Pack 2 (3790.srv03_sp2_gdr.080813-1204)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: OEM
System Model: OEM
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
Memory: 8190MB RAM
Page File: 540MB used, 9254MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.3790.3959 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file ati2dvag.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9440)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9440&SUBSYS_05021002&REV_00
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6879 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/27/2008 14:50:08, 529920 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 10/27/2008 15:39:07, 4675072 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D700-11CF-6D69-0825A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9440
SubSys ID: 0x05021002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: Realtek HD Audio output
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0885&SUBSYS_15BD3112&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKHDA64.SYS
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5490 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 10/2/2007 15:33:12, 4611584 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: Realtek HD Audio Input
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: RTKHDA64.SYS
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5490 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 10/2/2007 15:33:12, 4611584 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

Description: Realtek HD Digital input
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: RTKHDA64.SYS
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5490 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 10/2/2007 15:33:12, 4611584 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop® 2.20
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00E5
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Logitech Extreme 3D
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC215
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: PTZ-430
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x056A, 0x00B0
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Wacom Virtual Hid Driver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x056A, 0x1001
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Wacom Virtual Hid Driver
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x056A, 0x1001
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2939
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 102400 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 3/25/2005 07:00:00, 7552 bytes

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 2/16/2007 23:28:56, 93184 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 2/16/2007 23:34:06, 36864 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 2/16/2007 23:59:40, 69768 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 2/16/2007 23:34:06, 36864 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00E5
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 3/24/2005 17:21:12, 19456 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 3/24/2005 17:21:12, 33792 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x056A, 0x00B0
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 3/24/2005 17:21:12, 19456 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 3/24/2005 17:21:12, 33792 bytes
|
+ Wacom Mouse
| Matching Device ID: hid\wacvirtualhid&col03
| Upper Filters: wacommousefilter
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 3/24/2005 17:21:12, 19456 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 3/24/2005 17:21:12, 33792 bytes
| Driver: wacommousefilter.sys, 2/15/2006 16:41:44, 5632 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 2/16/2007 23:59:40, 69768 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 3/24/2005 17:21:12, 33792 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.3790.3959)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.3790.3959)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.3790.3959)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.3790.3959)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
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DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection 2 - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
-----------------------
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 228.4 GB
Total Space: 286.2 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Raptor HDD

Drive: D:
Model: Slimtype DVD C DS24CZP
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/25/2005 07:00:00, 77312 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Intel(R) X38 Express Chipset PCI Express Root Port - 29E1
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29E1&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&08
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:44:22, 115200 bytes

Name: Intel(R) X38 Express Chipset Processor to I/O Controller - 29E0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29E0&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_01\3&2411E6FE&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 294A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_294A&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&E5
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:44:22, 115200 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 2948
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2948&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&E4
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:44:22, 115200 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 4 - 2946
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2946&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&E3
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:44:22, 115200 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 2940
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2940&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&E0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:44:22, 115200 bytes

Name: Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293E&SUBSYS_293E8086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&D8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 5.10.0001.5013 (English), 7/13/2005 19:46:36, 239616 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293C&SUBSYS_293C8086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&D7
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:46, 44160 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 212480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 102400 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/24/2005 16:34:44, 123392 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/25/2005 07:00:00, 9728 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A&SUBSYS_293A8086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&EF
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:46, 44160 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 212480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 102400 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/24/2005 16:34:44, 123392 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hccoin.dll, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/25/2005 07:00:00, 9728 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2939&SUBSYS_29398086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&D2
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:50, 32512 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 212480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 102400 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/24/2005 16:34:44, 123392 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2938&SUBSYS_29388086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&D1
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:50, 32512 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 212480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 102400 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/24/2005 16:34:44, 123392 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2937&SUBSYS_29378086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&D0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:50, 32512 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 212480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 102400 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/24/2005 16:34:44, 123392 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2936&SUBSYS_29368086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&EA
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:50, 32512 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 212480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 102400 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/24/2005 16:34:44, 123392 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2935
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2935&SUBSYS_29358086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&E9
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:50, 32512 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 212480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 102400 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/24/2005 16:34:44, 123392 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2934&SUBSYS_29348086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&E8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:50, 32512 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 212480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/17/2007 00:00:48, 102400 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/24/2005 16:34:44, 123392 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family SMBus Controller - 2930
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2930&SUBSYS_29308086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&FB
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) ICH9R LPC Interface Controller - 2916
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2916&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&F8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\isapnp.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:31:18, 14336 bytes

Name: Intel(R) ICH8R/ICH9R SATA RAID Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&SUBSYS_29208086&REV_02\3&2411E6FE&0&FA
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\iaStor.sys, 7.05.0000.1017 (English), 3/21/2007 11:59:30, 381720 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_92\3&2411E6FE&0&F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:44:22, 115200 bytes

Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_2363197B&REV_02\4&2531C6B0&0&00E4
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:44:22, 40448 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:03:34, 150016 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/25/2005 07:00:00, 6144 bytes

Name: Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_4362&SUBSYS_532111AB&REV_22\4&159A6650&0&00E3
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\yk51x64.sys, 8.61.0002.0003 (English), 11/23/2006 07:01:00, 326656 bytes

Name: Marvell Yukon 88E8052 PCI-E ASF Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_11AB&DEV_4360&SUBSYS_522111AB&REV_22\4&E5B9ABB&0&00E5
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\yk51x64.sys, 8.61.0002.0003 (English), 11/23/2006 07:01:00, 326656 bytes

Name: VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_100615BD&REV_80\4&BB29FA6&0&18F0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ohci1394.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:42:00, 93440 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394bus.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:02:46, 80384 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys, 5.02.3790.3959 (English), 2/16/2007 23:03:24, 111104 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\enum1394.sys, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/24/2005 12:17:08, 11264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys, 5.02.3790.1830 (English), 3/24/2005 12:21:30, 92160 bytes

Name: Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA30&SUBSYS_AA301002&REV_00\4&8AA3FC7&0&0108
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 5.10.0001.5013 (English), 7/13/2005 19:46:36, 239616 bytes

Name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9440&SUBSYS_05021002&REV_00\4&8AA3FC7&0&0008
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6879 (English), 10/27/2008 15:39:07, 4675072 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0015 (English), 10/27/2008 13:45:41, 53248 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6879 (English), 10/27/2008 14:50:08, 529920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2cqag.dll, 6.14.0010.0400 (English), 10/27/2008 13:42:32, 737280 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 6.14.0010.2495 (English), 10/27/2008 14:38:15, 35840 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0621 (English), 10/27/2008 14:34:04, 5617344 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dll, 6.14.0010.0205 (English), 10/27/2008 14:16:58, 3419328 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 8/14/2008 12:42:21, 176214 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dat, 10/27/2008 14:10:47, 3107788 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiadlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.1017 (English), 10/27/2008 13:46:52, 59904 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.cap, 12/6/2008 09:16:07, 60256 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4177 (English), 10/27/2008 14:37:51, 239104 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4211 (English), 10/27/2008 14:37:34, 862720 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2542 (English), 10/27/2008 14:38:43, 317440 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2513 (English), 10/27/2008 14:38:09, 59392 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atikvmag.dll, 6.14.0010.0090 (English), 10/27/2008 13:49:19, 524288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atifglpf.xml, 8/31/2007 08:20:49, 7167 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDEMGX.dll, 2.00.3222.26710 (English), 10/27/2008 14:50:23, 425984 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atibrtmon.exe, 2.00.0000.0000 (English), 10/21/2008 12:51:43, 118784 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atio6axx.dll, 6.14.0010.8200 (English), 10/27/2008 15:27:28, 15558656 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiokax2.dll, 6.14.0010.8200 (English), 10/27/2008 13:45:51, 321024 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\SysWOW64\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.8200 (English), 10/27/2008 14:38:52, 10973184 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.5002 (English), 10/27/2008 14:26:08, 407040 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\atiogl.xml, 9/11/2008 22:55:15, 14849 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIODCLI.exe, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 10/21/2008 11:40:00, 51200 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIODE.exe, 1.00.0000.0001 (English), 10/21/2008 11:40:00, 111616 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIODCLI.exe.manifest, 9/29/2008 15:22:33, 531 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIODE.exe.manifest, 10/3/2008 15:48:06, 529 bytes

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DirectX Components
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ddraw.dll: 5.03.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 431104 bytes
ddrawex.dll: 5.03.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 54272 bytes
dxapi.sys: 5.02.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 20992 bytes
d3d8thk.dll: 5.02.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 9728 bytes
d3d9.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:10:08 2098176 bytes
d3dxof.dll: 5.02.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 99840 bytes
dpnsvr.exe: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:38 29184 bytes
dpnet.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:34 638464 bytes
dpnlobby.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:36 3584 bytes
dpnaddr.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:32 3584 bytes
dpvoice.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:38 313856 bytes
dpvsetup.exe: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:40 115712 bytes
dpvvox.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:40 214016 bytes
dpvacm.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:38 34816 bytes
dpnhpast.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:36 5120 bytes
dpnhupnp.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:36 94720 bytes
dinput.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:08 243200 bytes
dinput8.dll: 5.03.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 280064 bytes
dimap.dll: 5.02.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 99328 bytes
diactfrm.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:17:06 501248 bytes
joy.cpl: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:32:46 68096 bytes
gcdef.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:22:40 94208 bytes
pid.dll: 5.02.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 49152 bytes
dsound.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:18:02 651264 bytes
dsound3d.dll: 5.03.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 1295872 bytes
dsdmo.dll: 5.03.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 226816 bytes
dsdmoprp.dll: 5.03.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 108032 bytes
system.dll: 1.01.4322.2407 English Final Retail 9/1/2008 02:01:51 1232896 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 473600 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 5.04.0000.3900 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:27 2676224 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.04.0091.0000 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:28 2846720 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.05.0132.0000 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:28 563712 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.06.0168.0000 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:28 567296 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.07.0239.0000 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:28 576000 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.08.0299.0000 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:28 577024 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.09.0376.0000 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.10.0455.0000 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 577536 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.11.0519.0000 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 578560 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3DX.dll: 9.12.0589.0000 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 578560 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectDraw.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 145920 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectInput.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 159232 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectPlay.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 364544 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.DirectSound.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 178176 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.AudioVideoPlayback.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 53248 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.Diagnostics.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 12800 bytes
Microsoft.DirectX.dll: 5.04.0000.2904 English Final Retail 11/16/2008 10:41:29 223232 bytes
dxdiagn.dll: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:18:22 2031616 bytes
mfc42.dll: 6.05.9146.0000 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:36:20 1462272 bytes
wsock32.dll: 5.02.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 25088 bytes
amstream.dll: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:03:12 122880 bytes
devenum.dll: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:16:36 87552 bytes
mciqtz32.dll: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:36:08 50688 bytes
mpg2splt.ax: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:37:12 272384 bytes
msdmo.dll: 6.05.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 23040 bytes
encapi.dll: 5.03.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 38912 bytes
qasf.dll: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:50:44 83968 bytes
qcap.dll: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:50:44 252416 bytes
qdv.dll: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:50:46 274432 bytes
qdvd.dll: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:50:46 472064 bytes
qedit.dll: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:50:48 848896 bytes
qedwipes.dll: 6.05.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 734208 bytes
quartz.dll: 6.05.3790.4283 English Final Retail 4/30/2008 19:08:50 2175488 bytes
ks.sys: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:35:24 279552 bytes
ksproxy.ax: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:35:26 250880 bytes
ksuser.dll: 5.03.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/24/2005 16:20:30 5632 bytes
stream.sys: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:57:38 84736 bytes
mspclock.sys: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:39:18 7168 bytes
mspqm.sys: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:39:20 6912 bytes
mskssrv.sys: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:39:04 12288 bytes
swenum.sys: 5.03.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:59:04 5120 bytes
mpeg2data.ax: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:37:12 118784 bytes
msvidctl.dll: 6.05.3790.3959 English Final Retail 2/16/2007 23:39:44 2660352 bytes
vbisurf.ax: 5.03.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 52736 bytes
msyuv.dll: 5.02.3790.1830 English Final Retail 3/25/2005 07:00:00 21504 bytes

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
Full Screen Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.3790.3959
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.3790.3959
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.3790.3959
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.05.3790.3959
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,5.03.3790.1830
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.3790.3959
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,2,qdvd.dll,6.05.3790.3959
G.711 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,g711codc.ax,5.02.3790.1830
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.05.3790.3959
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.05.3790.3959
WIA Stream Snapshot Filter,0x00200000,1,1,wiasf.ax,1.00.0000.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.05.3790.3959
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.05.3790.3959
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,mpeg2data.ax,
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.05.3790.3959
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
QuickTime Movie Parser,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.05.3790.3959
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.05.3790.3959
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283

WDM Streaming Data Transforms:
Microsoft Kernel Acoustic Echo Canceller,0x00000000,0,0,,
Microsoft Kernel GS Wavetable Synthesizer,0x00000000,0,0,,

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.05.3790.3959
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283

Audio Compressors:
WMA Voice Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
DSP Group TrueSpeech(TM),0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283

Audio Capture Sources:
Realtek HD Audio Input,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.3790.3959
Realtek HD Digital input,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.05.3790.3959

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
Realtek HD Digital input,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.3790.3959
,0x00000000,0,0,,

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,3,1,,5.03.3790.3959

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,mpeg2data.ax,

WDM Streaming Mixer Devices:
Microsoft Kernel Wave Audio Mixer,0x00000000,0,0,,

Audio Renderers:
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283
DirectSound: Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.05.3790.4283

WDM Streaming System Devices:
Realtek HD Digital input,0x00200000,1,1,,5.03.3790.3959
Realtek HD Audio Input,0x00200000,3,1,,5.03.3790.3959
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,12,1,,5.03.3790.3959

frymaster · Post by **frymaster** » Sat, 6. Dec 08, 18:42

Hey,

when you say that's the framerate you're getting, is that in-game or in the benchmark, and if it's in-game what are you doing at the time?

A framerate of 30-40 isn't shabby and I wouldn't personally call it a problem

but it depends on the business of the sector

Almost Tactful · Post by **Almost Tactful** » Sun, 7. Dec 08, 03:44

Well in the bench I average 64FPS and at the other forum I frequent where we have a thread dedicated to this bench identical systems with different OS's are hitting about 100FPS @ 1680X1050 and everything maxed including AA and AF. In the game if I'm just cruising through a crowded sector with everything maxed and only 4X AA and AF I'm hitting around 35FPS, then if I cruise through at 600% seta I drop to about 20-22FPS and in fire fights as low as 15 FPS. Also while I'm playing every 10-20 mins I get a little blip where it drops to 0FPS for about 1-2 seconds and then it picks up again.....I'm confused.

eladan · Post by **eladan** » Sun, 7. Dec 08, 03:59

The demo doesn't emulate the heavy CPU load that this game generates, so unless your CPU is substantially more powerful than your GPU you won't likely see the same figures in both. I'm not really an expert on judging performance just by looking at the PC specs, but your experience seems ballpark at least, to me, on your specs.

alex2069 · Post by **alex2069** » Sun, 7. Dec 08, 04:20

I just thought I'd add in my 2c. I have 4gb ram, and with the extra ram switch enabled on the exe, for me, X3TC will run faster in Vistax64 than Win XPx32.
Also, I did notice slightly less stuttering with the 1.3 update. Saying that, my biggest performance increase was my move from 32 > 64 (WITH the >3gb switch enabled; unmodified EXE was better in 32).

Almost Tactful · Post by **Almost Tactful** » Sun, 7. Dec 08, 15:58

alex2069 wrote:I just thought I'd add in my 2c. I have 4gb ram, and with the extra ram switch enabled on the exe, for me, X3TC will run faster in Vistax64 than Win XPx32.
Also, I did notice slightly less stuttering with the 1.3 update. Saying that, my biggest performance increase was my move from 32 > 64 (WITH the >3gb switch enabled; unmodified EXE was better in 32).

I've read up on this a little and I seem to be getting mixed reviews on it, can I change the switch even though it's ran through steam?

Almost Tactful · Post by **Almost Tactful** » Sun, 7. Dec 08, 16:19

Well I got it all set but then on Steam it says the game is unavailable at this time and I had to verify and fix game cache files......I really need to buy a hard copy, I hate steam.

alex2069 · Post by **alex2069** » Sun, 7. Dec 08, 23:48

Yea, you wont be able to get the 1.3 patch to work on Steam. Since the patch updates the exe, steam will have a fit when you try to run it afterwards. The previous patch (1.2.1) didn't modify the exe (so I've read), and Steam wouldn't overly mind that the game files had changed, just as long as the exe is still the "valid" steam one (hence some people got that one working on Steam).

Also, I just realised that you're using x64 XP, not x64 Vista... x.x
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if there was a decrease in performance on 64 XP to 32 XP, and also to 64 Vista.
x64 Vista has matured greatly over its life, and is now quite stable and runs at least as well as x32 XP. The biggest problems plaguing Vista and its slowness were immature drivers; x64 XP is still likely suffering from this due to its low distribution levels.
Vista vs XP: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2 ... 527,00.asp
</end vista pimping>

Almost Tactful · Post by **Almost Tactful** » Sun, 7. Dec 08, 23:58

The main reason I have XP-64 is because I needed 8GB of RAM for school, and when I build the rig back in 8/07 Vista was still to new to be bothered with, I just need to stop upgrading everything else so often and get a new OS

alex2069 · Post by **alex2069** » Mon, 8. Dec 08, 00:40

Ah, yea, I too went through that phase (needed the extra ram but Vista was still shit so XP x64 was the only choice). However when I upgraded my comp a couple of months ago I decided to go Vista x64 - I have yet to have any regrets.
I have maybe the slightest of problems trying to get ancient games working, but in 99% of cases, it is resolved simply by running them in compatibility mode; I strongly recommend you try it. If however you're anything like me with computers (knows what they're doing), a quick bit of Googling to disable the stupid UAC, and activate the "REAL" administrator account (do this!), and it's exactly like running XP (I'm not an idiot when it comes to computers; I know how to take care of my comp, and to not run the "freesexpics.exe" files, lol).
I'd recommend trying it as a dual boot at the very least; you never know, it might actually fix your problems.

Almost Tactful · Post by **Almost Tactful** » Mon, 8. Dec 08, 12:22

alex2069 wrote:Ah, yea, I too went through that phase (needed the extra ram but Vista was still **** so XP x64 was the only choice). However when I upgraded my comp a couple of months ago I decided to go Vista x64 - I have yet to have any regrets.
I have maybe the slightest of problems trying to get ancient games working, but in 99% of cases, it is resolved simply by running them in compatibility mode; I strongly recommend you try it. If however you're anything like me with computers (knows what they're doing), a quick bit of Googling to disable the stupid UAC, and activate the "REAL" administrator account (do this!), and it's exactly like running XP (I'm not an idiot when it comes to computers; I know how to take care of my comp, and to not run the "freesexpics.exe" files, lol).
I'd recommend trying it as a dual boot at the very least; you never know, it might actually fix your problems.

Yeah I really need to, everytime I have some cash I seem to upgrade else where. For example I just bought the wife a new rig for x-mas and a new Canon 1000D DSLR, anyway here is what she will be running:

Antec Three Hundred Case
Intel C2D E7300 2.66gHz CPU
ATi Sapphire HD3650 GPU
Silverstone ST400 PSU
Asus P5Q Pro Motherboard
2X2GB OCZ Gold DDR2 PC6400 RAM
Western Digital SATA 200GB 7200RPM HDD
LG DVD Burner
Multi Card Reader
Sunbeam Core Contact Cooler
XP Pro 32-Bit Corp Edition

Who knows maybe I'll play it on her rig instead

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