[QUESTION] What script/mod provides/causes foo? Ask here.

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[QUESTION] What script/mod provides/causes foo? Ask here.

Post by jlehtone » Tue, 21. Oct 08, 08:12

It is inevitable. A user will enter this forum, and despite staring diligently at the Community Library, the Modding Tutorials, and other invisibles, will still have a question of "What provides feature foo?" It may be a simple case of calling the feature foo, while script author speaks of bar, or a more divergent query.

The other FAQ scenario is when a user has already installed a host of S&M and is having a problem. "What causes problem foo?" Naturally one should eliminate improbable causes first, and then ask in the thread of the relevant thread.

Both types of queries tend to repeat. If we could collect them into this thread, then the next user with the same question should find the answer from here. This won't sticky, but there is a link in sticky to here, so it should always be within reach without the dreaded SearchFunction.

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[req] V-sync optimization?

Post by Dr. Dan » Mon, 24. Nov 08, 18:45

[req] V-sync optimization [/req]

I'm using a rather high-end machine and experiencing a lot of vertical tearing. I've messed around with the settings quite a bit, but cant seem to get optimal performance. I hate to use crysis as a bench now, but I can run that on full graphics. Here are some specs, any suggestions are appreciated :)

Processor: Intel Dual Core2 Duo E6750 (not OC at the moment) 2.66GHz
Memory: 4.00 GB
OS: Windows Vista 64bit (should I stop here? haha)
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT x2 SLI (newest drivers)

The game itself is through a steam install. I'd love to play the game on highest settings and glow enabled without the planets or stations tearing when they come into view.

Cheers!

[Edit] Ah I'm using mods too, this may be a cause of the problem. Heres a list of the ones I have installed:

Advanced Missile Defense by Fud
Bounty Boost by LV
Cheat Collection Package by Cycrow (to counteract the occasional storyline glitch)
Compare Ships by Graxter
Freight Transporter Upgrade by LV
Improved Boarding by Cycrow
LazCorp Claim Unknown Sector by Lazerath
Manual Trade Extension by ThisIsHarsh
Marine Repairs by Tatakau
Medusa Rapid Fire Missile Interface by LV
Mobile Ship Repairs by Graxster
Salvage Claim Software by Cycrow
Upgrade Kits (formerly Jumpdrive Kits v1.4) by LV
Wing Hotkeys by Cycrow

I started a brand new game and with these all enabled to see if the tearing was still happening, and it was. At the start of the game with the script editor I could see I was running over 8600 scrips. Does this seem too high?

Cheers!

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Post by jlehtone » Tue, 25. Nov 08, 00:18

I do not think that scripting and modding can "optimize" as such. That is the job of the hardcode, and that is beyond S&M. What we can do, is to replace models with something less intensive, such as modding asteroids and ships made from less polygons. Not as pretty, but cheaper to draw. And the scripters can redesign their scripts to consume less CPU.

You are using multiple scripts. Lets assume that the performance problems are not due to game engine or driver bugs. So it must then be one or more of those scripts, or their combination. You should think through, which scripts might be running some heavy loop in the background, continuously. Hotkeys, for example, do not sound like doing that, if they run only when you press them. Then check the thread of each candidate script to see if any of them has already reported being "heavy".

And then ask in those threads, if needed. The script authors do need your feedback. They do read their own threads. And other users do read those threads too. Perhaps your to-the-point feedback can save one gray hair from the other users.
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Cheat script issue? Can't jump in Terran sectors

Post by Loid » Mon, 1. Dec 08, 01:00

Hi folks

I'm not sure where to post this so will try here first, mods, please move if I've got the wrong forum

I had the M148 bug where everyone was against me, so due to being able to spend very few hours on the game went for the easy option and installed Cyrows excellent cheat script. I used it once or twice in M148 to turn the enemies to friends and was able to complete the mission :)

However, a few missions later I went back to my Sabre I'd docked at Omicron Lyrae only to find it stripped of all equipment! Next I found I was unable to jump to any Terran sectors. Even after revisiting them the jump drive would not work in for any of them.

I'm not sure if this is an issue with the cheat, or if it's just more issues with a b*ggered game.

Any ideas folks? I really don't want to restart as it took me several weeks to get this far (not much time for games, but with X ones I go in for the long haul :) )

TIA

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Post by Cycrow » Mon, 1. Dec 08, 01:08

u've never been able to jump into terran sectors.

jumpdrives use the gates to lock onto to jump, terran sectors dont have gates to lock onto, so the jumpdrives dont work.

you can only jump to asteroid belt.

its also not a bug no matter what others say, it is intended

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Post by Loid » Mon, 1. Dec 08, 01:27

Thanks very much Cycrow, I hadn't noticed that before (left terran sections, never to return until now!). That answers one of the questions :)

I'm still a bit confused over the loss of all the equipment from my ship, I can't buy the weapons back now as my rep isn't good enough with the Terran. Is it possible this was caused by the script? I've had a lot of issues with the story line missions so it might well not be caused by it.

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Post by Cycrow » Mon, 1. Dec 08, 01:38

its unlikly to have been cause by the cheat scripts, as the scripts are only run when you tell them too, so its very unlikly to effect a ship that you havn't used the cheats on.

as for y the equipment went missing, this i really dont know. Not seen that happen before, especially if its just been sat in a station

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Post by Loid » Mon, 1. Dec 08, 01:52

Thanks once again, I appreciate you spending the time to reply :) Looks like I need to earn some cash to spend on Argon technology instead 8)

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Mystery behind SS_WARE_SW_NEW1

Post by smbh » Mon, 1. Dec 08, 11:35

For some reason I have Paranid EQ Docks carrying it and I have no idea what it could be. I'm a sloppy updater, usually updating several scripts a go so I'm not even sure where to look for the culprit.

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Post by Ravenholme » Mon, 1. Dec 08, 11:39

Could it be Medusa Rapid Fire Missile Interface?

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Post by smbh » Mon, 1. Dec 08, 11:48

Yep, seems like, I seemed to recall it costing as much, searched for the thread and it was it. Wonder why it's not updating the name properly though....

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Post by jlehtone » Mon, 1. Dec 08, 12:06

System fails to get the proper name from the text file. Corrupted/missing/conflicting text file(s)?


This "missing proper string" is a classic (FAQ) problem. You should know the scripts that are supposed to provide the text. Those scripts should tell it in their description. And in the Community Library too. Hmm, none of the obvious locations seem to spell it out. Perhaps a note to the author in appropriate thread? ;)
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Post by Ikaruga » Fri, 12. Dec 08, 09:44

Hi,

Here's my problem : I load my save, I leave the station where I was docked, I fly for a few minutes, and then the game freezes completly. It does not crash but I can't move nor do anything and the music "loops"...

The only way I can quit the game is ctrl alt del and kill it.

I play with version 1.3

I can send you the save file if you want.

Can someone help, please ?

Here are the scripts I use :

- Deathmatch arena
- CAG
- Marine Repairs
- Improved Boarding
- Nividium processing plant

I had a look in the different forums of those scripts, but did not find anything about this problem.

I also gave my save to a friend who has none of those scripts installed, he got exactly the same result.

Loading an earlier save seems to solve the problem somehow, but then it comes back a few hours later ...
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Post by th0th » Sat, 13. Dec 08, 03:20

typically only noticed that this thread would be more appropriate than the script requests, if only my dulled brain had spotted it sooner. Anyhow;

Odd request this one which i hope can be done with a script, essentially one of the Shipyards in my universe (Light of Heart) the trade screen has become blank and stretches over all my savegames, the info screen is fine and if i dock ships there i can sell them but none of the info screen appears on the trade screen, which is most unfortunate. Any Ideas?

i can dig out the large list of mods i'm using if that might help already tried the obvious things and some other suggestions, switching off a few odd mods and such.

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Post by amirite » Sat, 13. Dec 08, 18:51

Just realized this thread is more for actual scripting topics, I'll post it somewhere else.
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