[TC] Stealing a PBG or IBL forge.

4d · Post by 4d » Wed, 3. Jun 09, 22:01

In short: Has anyone managed it?

LooManks got trashed a game day back or so and no-one has shipped in a new forge (or Mercenary M for that matter). Only the Anarchy port reappeared so far. I've read mixed material on whether new forges are actually constructed or not, and I'm not willing to go blowing up one of my last two IBL or PBG forges to see if it happens on a whim. It's seriously annoying having to run five ships selling in Vanilla and one ship buying on each damned factory to collect them (oh so slowly).

Deadbeat_Spinn · Post by **Deadbeat_Spinn** » Wed, 3. Jun 09, 22:17

Yes, check Nuklear-Slug's second story, IIRC. As for Loo's none of the original stations in the sector have respawned in my game, barring the Anarchy Port. But there are 6 or 7 new stations in that sector, courtesy of build missions.

4d · Post by 4d » Wed, 3. Jun 09, 22:21

Yeah, but I've heard that's a 2nd day placement in Danna's chance by GoD. I'm considerably past the second day, and the PBG forge is safely sitting in that sector.

Deadbeat_Spinn · Post by **Deadbeat_Spinn** » Wed, 3. Jun 09, 22:51

Then destroy it and see if you're fortunate enough to have luck shine on you.

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Thu, 4. Jun 09, 02:27

NUKLEAR-SLUG just got lots of luck in addition to his impressive skills as a fighter and a scribe. I just keep wondering how does he manage to actually end his DID and end up dead in a ship setup that should pretty much prevent this from happening for most of us (first time in M7, second time - in Brigantine...)...
I mean he is the only person who reported such a capture as far as I know... And he even provided screenshots so it cannot be just "artistic license"

I cleared all IBL factories in the universe so far and none got spawned anywhere with no TLs doing the GOD job anywhere.

Gold Dragon · Post by **Gold Dragon** » Thu, 4. Jun 09, 05:02

Has the Shipyard in Yaki Territory not Spawned? I know it sells them (IBL forges, at any rate)

MadGizmo · Post by **MadGizmo** » Thu, 4. Jun 09, 08:46

Gold Dragon wrote:Has the Shipyard in Yaki Territory not Spawned? I know it sells them (IBL forges, at any rate)

AFAIK no IBL forges can be bought from the Yaki in vanilla. And no PBG or IBL forges will respawn.

Gold Dragon · Post by **Gold Dragon** » Fri, 5. Jun 09, 03:13

MadGizmo wrote:
Gold Dragon wrote:Has the Shipyard in Yaki Territory not Spawned? I know it sells them (IBL forges, at any rate)
AFAIK no IBL forges can be bought from the Yaki in vanilla. And no PBG or IBL forges will respawn.

Odd, then, that I was able to purchase both the Ryu and the IBL Forge...

And while I DO run a Modified Game, I don't run anything that modifies the Yaki. the only additions to shipyards is one that adds the Orbital Weapons Platforms to Argon Shipyards.

Yaki Shipyard was added in the 2.0 patch, and I purchased the Aldrin Missions version (2.0 out of the box), if that matters.

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Fri, 5. Jun 09, 05:28

Odd, then, that I was able to purchase both the Ryu and the IBL Forge...

Did you start a new game? Because in my unmodified game that goes from X3:TC day 1 (well, day 7 because shipment took a long time) I don't have any of those fabs - only ships. In fact I like the idea of capping a TL with them but we need to figure out what triggers this first...

DaveyP · Post by **DaveyP** » Fri, 5. Jun 09, 07:26

Is the Yaki shipyard in a random sector, cos I'm blowed if I can find it.

Cheers

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Fri, 5. Jun 09, 07:39

DaveyP wrote:Is the Yaki shipyard in a random sector, cos I'm blowed if I can find it.

Cheers

No, it should be in Senator's Badlands or Ocracoke's Storm (I forget which)--look way down to the south-eastern corner. You'll probably be able to see it with the Mk 1 Eyeball long before you get into scanner range, though.

JrK · Post by **JrK** » Fri, 5. Jun 09, 09:06

It is in Senator's Badlands. And in 2.0, you can't buy IBL forges anywhere.

zazie · Post by **zazie** » Fri, 5. Jun 09, 09:39

For PBG you should check the Unknown Sector east of PTNI HQ and Maelstrom. In my game (plain vanilla, started with 1.2; ~21 IG-days) there is one working PBG-forge in the US (I started buying all the weapons very early in my game) and - about at day 6 - a new PBG-station spawned right in the middle of Maelstrom.

This station was not there before. I had set about a dozen of satellites in the sector, this was after day 2. So I am absolutely shure that GOD has placed the station after day 2.

The IBLs in my game are both in Weaver's Tempest, well protected by the Yaki. Though NO ONE EVER bought a single IBL those two fabs have survived about 20 IG-days. It lasted that long until I got my first (!) Yaki-mission. Now I am allowed to land and to buy those precious weapons

To my surprise GOD did not take away those (red) stations though I have done several dozens of station-building-missions. It has taken away the weapon fabs in Aldrin; my conclusion: GOD does not touch 'red' stations.

Killjaeden · Post by **Killjaeden** » Fri, 5. Jun 09, 10:11

i capped one PBG-forge at his way to dannas chance
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It saw the TL by accident when i went pirating in hatikvahs...

After i capped it i ordered the TL to jump at Home of Light but it wanted alle the time to get to dannas chance. No way to tell him not to do that. It refused orders

So i had to jump in one sector and immediately hit the 'build' button.

I tried to let him reach it's destination, but after that he had no forge in it.
Don't mess with god, he will punish you

Cactus-Soup · Post by **Cactus-Soup** » Fri, 5. Jun 09, 10:24

I get the feeling GoD works on a universe wide - rather than sector wide approach.

If you blow up an IBL or PBG forge, it's just as likely to be built in a different pirate sector. Otherwise you'd have one hell of an exploit.

zymurg · Post by **zymurg** » Fri, 5. Jun 09, 23:36

zazie wrote:The IBLs in my game are both in Weaver's Tempest, well protected by the Yaki. Though NO ONE EVER bought a single IBL those two fabs have survived about 20 IG-days. It lasted that long until I got my first (!) Yaki-mission. Now I am allowed to land and to buy those precious weapons

I have been trying what seems like forever to get a mission to make the Yaki friendly so I could buy IBL's in Weaver's Tempest and still no luck. I have never found Pirates there so I could defeat them to protect the Yake to get on their good standing (another thread suggested that) and they never offer missions. All the Yaki outside of Weaver's Tempest are friendly to me but soon as I go to WT they are not.
How do I get missions from them. Someone said in another thread that I must not have any Police License when I go into that sector but I don't know how to remove the Police License from my inventory once I already have it.
How did you do it?
Thanks

Post by **Nanook** » Sat, 6. Jun 09, 00:04

Yaki, like Pirates, don't have to be in their own stations to offer you missions. Look for them in nearby sectors, too. Also, if you want some pirates in Yaki space to kill, keep blowing up pirate bases around the universe until you get one to respawn in Yaki territory. Then wait for pirate ships to spawn/visit there. And you may even get lucky and find a Yaki offering a mission at the PB.

Gold Dragon · Post by **Gold Dragon** » Sat, 6. Jun 09, 02:37

Pirate station with hacker got me docking, and someone had a mission there.

Must have gotten lucky, I guess.

Game started at 1.4, but before I found the Sector Senator's Badlands, I installed 2.0a. But the Shipyard DOES have three stations for sale...

EDIT: Better wording above and this:

I have actually seen a Hostile Pirate Ship in Yaki Territory. I was mapping Weaver's Tempest at the time, and at the back corner was a red Pirate. I was going to ignore him until he shot a missile at me (which he later regretted, as I blew him to space dust in one pass

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PegasusJF · Post by **PegasusJF** » Sat, 6. Jun 09, 10:24

You can cap stations? How?

If so, wow, I can just capture a tractor beam station then!

RLHDLW · Post by **RLHDLW** » Sat, 6. Jun 09, 11:48

PegasusJF wrote:You can cap stations? How?

If so, wow, I can just capture a tractor beam station then!

I understand that you can cap TLs with stations inside.

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[TC] Stealing a PBG or IBL forge.

Stealing a PBG or IBL forge.