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[Caldari Navy]

How the hell i force use ship taged weapons when i tried to copy past erlking tag weapons it working but when i change for example plasma turet and add tag noone use them anymore and if i change turret tag in ship xpl it have no option to fit any turrets..

My question is how to add plasma turret for example to battleship turret slot but erlking way so ship is forced to use plasma only tags doesnt work at all even if i reverse enginering tag naming

Please any advice how to rag weapons correctly

[Caldari Navy]

Or jist tell me what tags i must put onto ship xml tags to use teladi plasma i tried high energy i tried whith out it just ship never use ehat u want and when i tried copy paste phoenix tags its using only and only missiles nothing else just missiles but phoenix whith large standard missiles rags use plasma as well


This tags seems pretty fuxck up honestly ita bs its never work or how ?????????

[Caldari Navy]

Is there any explanation or guide how tags works for turrets ? Or does even someone knows ? Tags seems so extreme hardcore random not working thing no matter what u try so im asking why is it there and how it works ?

[euclid]

Only used them once to get any turret equipped on Boron ships. No sure that helps.

Cheers Euclid

Edit: Just checked my mod(s) and it's also engines and shields where you need to remove the boron tag to allow any to equip. E.

[BlackRain]

How the hell i force use ship taged weapons when i tried to copy past erlking tag weapons it working but when i change for example plasma turet and add tag noone use them anymore and if i change turret tag in ship xpl it have no option to fit any turrets..

My question is how to add plasma turret for example to battleship turret slot but erlking way so ship is forced to use plasma only tags doesnt work at all even if i reverse enginering tag naming

Please any advice how to rag weapons correctly

I feel like Shuulo would know, guy who created VRO since I believe he uses tags for all of his new weapons, etc. Ask in the Discord maybe.

[euclid]

Topics merged and please do not circumvent the pofanity filter

Cheers Euclid

[Caldari Navy]

Topics merged and please do not circumvent the pofanity filter

Cheers Euclid

Sometimes its only way how to express what you want to say .

[euclid]

Topics merged and please do not circumvent the pofanity filter

Cheers Euclid

Sometimes its only way how to express what you want to say .

Just try to restrain yourself here on the X forums

" 2. Mild swearing is permitted, but minors do use these boards so please bear that in mind. A 'swear filter' is in place on these forums, but users who consistently rely on it in their posts may receive a warning."

And now please back to the topic or this thread is going south.

Cheers Euclid

[sprIder]

I'll try it.

In short: the tags have to match. Turrets and weapons (and shields and engines) say, what they need / demand and ships and modules say, what they have / can offer.

The turret component files, like \assets\props\WeaponSystems\heavy\turret_arg_l_plasma_01_mk1.xml, have somewhere a connection which defines these tags. Often with a name like "con_turret", "con_turret_xxxx", "connection_tur_xxx" etc.
The same goes for weapons, with names like "con_weapon", "con_weapon_xxx" etc.
(And for shields and engines)

In this case:

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<connection name="con_turret_plasma_l" tags="turret large standard component combat ">
	<offset/>
</connection>

We look at the tags:
- "component" is not important for us. Only, that the game knows, this is a component?
- "turret large standard combat" is the important stuff. The turret connection of a ship has to "offer" all these four tags. The order is not important.

We look at the ATF destroyer, \extensions\ego_dlc_terran\assets\units\size_l\ship_atf_l_destroyer_01.xml:

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<connection name="con_turret_l_03" group="group_mid_up_left_2" tags="turret large missile standard  combat ">
	...
</connection>

The connection offers "turret large missile standard combat "
This means, our turret can be mounted, since all four tags are offered. Additionally, this connection offers the tag "missile". Let's take a look at a missile turret, \assets\props\WeaponSystems\guided\turret_arg_l_guided_01_mk1.xml.

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<connection name="con_turret_guided_l" tags="turret large missile component standard ">
	<offset/>
</connection>

This (turret large missile standard) fits perfect again, all four "demanded" tags are matched.

Now to your mentioned battleship, \extensions\ego_dlc_pirate\assets\units\size_xl\ship_pir_xl_battleship_01.xml.

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<connection name="con_turret_large_01" group="group_front_mid_right" tags="turret large pir_battleship_01 ">
	...
</connection>

tags="turret large pir_battleship_01 " -> The plasma and / or the missile turret won't fit. Not all tags are matched ("standard" and "missile" are missing).
This only matches with

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<connection name="con_turret_laser_l" tags="turret large pir_battleship_01 component ">
	<offset/>
</connection>

from \extensions\ego_dlc_pirate\assets\props\weaponsystems\standard\turret_pir_l_battleship_01_laser_01_mk1.xml
To make it clear: "pir_battleship_01" is not a reference to a ship, component or macro file / name. It is just a tag.

If you want that this ship's turret connection additionally can fit the plasma turret (and nearly all other non-missile, non-boron, large turrets), you have to change the tags. This can be done via a replacement:

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<replace sel="//connection[@name='con_turret_large_01']/@tags">turret large pir_battleship_01 standard combat </replace>

The file with this code, ship_pir_xl_battleship_01.xml, has to be in "your_fancy_mod\extensions\ego_dlc_pirate\assets\units\size_xl\".
Keep in mind to set the dependency to the pirate dlc in your content.xml.

My question is how to add plasma turret for example to battleship turret slot but erlking way so ship is forced to use plasma only tags doesnt work at all even if i reverse enginering tag naming

My suggestion: Do it again, just like you tried with the battleship-way, but create a new plasma turret which has a unique tag, like "plasma".

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<connection name="con_turret" tags="turret large plasma component ">
	<offset/>
</connection>

And the turret connections at the ships also should only have the corresponding tags.

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<connection name="..." group="..." tags="turret large plasma">
	...
</connection>

Is this understandable and helpful? Is anything still unclear?

Best regards
sprIder

[h2o.Ava]

In short: the tags have to match.

...

Best regards
sprIder

sprider, can you tell me more about tags and find_object_component?

for example:
<find_object_component name="$found" object="someobject" tag="tag.sometag" />

how does it work on the different types of objects? where do the tags need to be placed?

[sprIder]

Nope, sorry, I do not have any idea. In the common.xsd the only documentation is "Connection tag".