Basic math error: Quick reproduction save included.

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Basic math error: Quick reproduction save included.

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Hello, this is just silly. Load the provided save file and you will find yourself in a sacrificial ship for the Boso Ta mission with 3 antimatter cells onboard etc, at the approximate location to make it explode.

In front of the ship, some 10-ish meters away, is the satellite I earlier placed for the previous step in the quest. The HUD will helpfully show you a range to the satellite, in easy to read decimal format: 10 meters. Or 12, or whatever.

Directly above the satellite (no more than a meter or two up, and only less than a meter off center) is the quest marker for where to leave the ship with the antimatter cells. The HUD will helpfully show you a range to the quest marker, in easy to read decimal format: 22 meters.

These ranges cannot be reconciled. Try strafing your ship horizontally around the satellite in a complete circle to verify that the quest marker is always displayed ABOVE the satellite. Then position your ship above the quest marker, looking down at the satellite, and read the ranges supplied by the HUD (Edit for anyone who doesn't care to do the experiment: the quest marker (closer to your ship) shows a range that is reliably about 10 meters further away than the satellite, even though the quest marker is in between your ship and the satellite).

Something is wrong, and I wonder if this error can't be a symptom of the same thing that causes all sorts of random guidance weirdness.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lGijbP ... sp=sharing

Whoops edit for basic statistics: This is on the Linux/GoG version of 2.50hf1. Nvidia GTX1070 w/proprietary drivers. Unmodified game.



P.S.: The subject line words "Basic math error" are intended to indicate that only basic math is required to detect the presence of the error. I'm sure in the guts of the code, the math gets plenty compllicated! :lol:
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Re: Basic math error: Quick reproduction save included.

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Just curious if anybody aside from me has loaded this save to verify the behaviour. I am 99% certain this will work for anyone, but there's always a chance it's my system, or the universe hates me or something. :)

Edit: Oh and also since this result came about from this other testing viewtopic.php?f=180&t=417688 which is now stalled because of inscrutable save file behaviour, if anybody knows more about that one please add a comment as appropriate. :)
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Re: Basic math error: Quick reproduction save included.

Post by radcapricorn »

Indeed, there seems to be a discrepancy in ranges. But that could be explained by different calculation methods. Or the fact that you are near a spacetime anomaly :D Seriously though, be interesting to know why that is.

PS. The senior's name was Hari, not Harry :P
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Re: Basic math error: Quick reproduction save included.

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radcapricorn wrote: Sat, 6. Jul 19, 00:51 Indeed, there seems to be a discrepancy in ranges. But that could be explained by different calculation methods. Or the fact that you are near a spacetime anomaly :D Seriously though, be interesting to know why that is.

PS. The senior's name was Hari, not Harry :P
Thanks for the confirmation that the save produces the same results on another system, much appreciated. :)

Yeah, in regards to "could be explained by", any number of things. Some of which would be harmful/bug-inducing in other places, other things... maybe not so much. I'm expecting a reply from CBJ or someone with either "No, that's normal, ignore that" or "Oh wow, that is weird we'll look into it" but I assign roughly equal probabilities to those outcomes.

And yes, Hari looks much better. I'll correct that if I ever load that playthrough again. :)
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