Saya Kho and Black Crystal issues in Reunion

[rafezetter]

I dont know why ( I didnt do it) but Saya kho is now red to me and is shooting at my UT's making them jump

how can I fix this?

will she reset/ respawn if i kill her?

[Nanook]

A little more info would be good:

1. X3 Reunion?
2. Any mods?
3. What did you do to her?
4. Any other pertinent facts?

As for killing her, it's not possible since she's indestructible.

[p00fer]

3. What did you do to her?
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called her fat prolly..

[rafezetter]

sorry info... x3:r, mods lots

I didn't do anything, last I saw she was green to me when I did the mission to free her from the bliss place, and I've been doing the crystal missions since, then I get a warning that one of my UT's is being attacked and it's the Nikkofune, so I jump in and sure enough she's now red and shooting at my UT.

would a collision set her off, or if she got hit by stray fire from a combat drone or the ut's turret?

whatever it is the game did it not me.

[jackmcbarn]

Okay, a few things. One, the mods you're using are important. What are they? Also, if the Nikkonofune was green last time you saw it, it means it was still owned by you from a mission where you had to fly it. Finally, are you on the plot mission where

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the Argon are mad at you?

[rafezetter]

I doubt it's the mods as she was green before and none of them have changed, I do have pirate guild installed and I'm set to friendly, but I had that before too. if you insist on a list I could do one, but as I said nothing about them has changed - but just to check i'll disable the pirate guild one to check (just in case my being freind to them has somehow set her IFF wonky).

As for missions I'm still trying to sort out the black crystal mission as I have it in my hold, but the mission hasn't incremented, I keep getting a message from the pirate girl asking if im going to try again??

edit - checked pirate guild mod - made no diff she's still shooting at me.

[rafezetter]

I have the black crystal in my hold but the mission is not incrementing, the pirate girl keeps asking me if I'm going to try again, and I've been to the goner temple but the comms list is empty.

I'm not 100% sure how I got the crystal, as I looked about for a bit then just decided to hoover up everything that was about using the mod to teleport wares into hold.

I've tried going back to xenon 101 and ejecting/ recollecting the crate, I've tried doing that the other side of the gate in napoleous memorial, and going to the talon in farnhams legend...

nothing works.

edit - now when I approach the gate for X101 I get the cut scene (the comms thing in the corner) but no sound - so it looks like the game has bugged.

any way to repair this?

[Virtualaughing]

You may try this link http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=101953

And remeber. If you wanna find usefull topics it will takes for you as long as it took me XĐ

[rafezetter]

i've already read that walkthrough (was the first thing I did - and looked in the xforums search engine but found no exact reference to what I was experiencing), and others found by google, none explain what is happening with my version.

"Once Julian says he has it, get out of there and back to the Goner Temple."

This isn't happening, there's no audio, or message log, when I go back to the Xenon MO wreck he still does the "I'm complaining xenon never mark anything/ gift shop/ I'm talking to myself routine"

So even tho I have it - the crate says black crystal in freight screen - the computer if I eject it correctly identifies the crate as black crystal on audio, but for some reason the mission counter still thinks I don't have it yet.

any ideas anyone?

[Nanook]

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I'm not 100% sure how I got the crystal, as I looked about for a bit then just decided to hoover up everything that was about using the mod to teleport wares into hold....

This may be the problem. The game uses specific code to determine when a plot element completes, and you bypassed the cargo bay collection routine by using that mod. So even though you may have that crystal in your possession, the game may not realize it because you didn't pick it up 'properly'. If you can, go back to before you got it and try it the non-modded way, and see if that works.

[Nanook]

... if you insist on a list I could do one, but as I said nothing about them has changed...

Well...

1. her shooting your UT's is abnormal, shouldn't happen, and
2. you're running lot's of mods.

So, yeah, a list may indeed be helpful. And for the record, just because you disabled the pirate guild mod doesn't mean she'll turn 'blue' (not 'green', that's a playership color) again.

I would have to conclude that something 'non-vanilla' in your game is causing your issues. And a list of mods/scripts will go a long ways towards figuring it out.

[rafezetter]

If you can, go back to before you got it and try it the non-modded way, and see if that works.

not possible

I found Noah in his ship in Argon prime and he just says "ill be in touch" which doesn't seem like the right thing.

there must be some way of fixing this - this is my 7th 9th? can't even remember how many times I've re-installed trying to get a stable group of mods and combined play time is 10+ days with 3 days in this one, it's bad enough I can't do the Bala Gi missions coz paranid prime is closed so I don't have a HQ either..

I'm just trying to get through the story so I can install Xtm and play with that and build an empire in there...[/quote]

[rafezetter]

script list exported from the plugin manager, plus there are others directly added to script folder in caps:

AL_TerraCorp :: DeltaWolf ::
Add Jumprdrives and Transporter Devices to EQ Docks ::
Advanced Jumpdrive :: Cycrow ::
Advanced Mineral Scanner :: A dJ ::
Advanced Thruster Control :: Cycrow ::
Assassins Guild :: Cycrow :: Yes ::
Autotrader Sector Lock :: halo ::
AUTOMATED DEFENSE SYSTEM - SERIAL KICKED
BBS Blueprint Offers :: LV ::
BBS Extras :: Cycrow ::
BBS Project 2 :: moot ::
Bail Signal Extension :: Voxol/xfir01 ::
Boron-Paranid Regenerative Hull Systems :: Zurechial ::
Bounty Boost :: LV :: Yes ::
Bounty Hunters Guild :: Cycrow :: Yes ::
CMODII TXU :: Ulfius :: Yes ::
Cargo Bay Energy Divert System :: Cycrow :: 6
CAMOFLAGE MOD
CARRIER COMMANDS - anarkis
Community Extended Mod Pack :: AalaarDB / Cycrow ::
CONDENSE ASTEROIDS
CRYSTAL FREE SPP
Extra Missions Pack :: al_main :: Yes ::
Fix Flying Wares :: eladan :: Yes ::
FIX ATTACK COMMAND
FIX MANUAL JUMP
Freight Transporter Upgrade :: LV ::
Homebase Commands :: Cycrow ::
Jump To Me Command :: Cycrow ::
KHAAK CAPTURE
M.A.R.S
MK3 Improvments :: gnasirator ::
Mass-Driver Ammo Generator :: Cycrow ::
Mercenaries Guild :: Cycrow :: Yes ::
Move To Coordinates :: Cycrow ::
Nividium As Secondary Resource :: Nividium ::
Nividium Mines :: Cycrow :: Yes ::
Nividium Spacefly Farms :: Nividium ::
Numeric Ranks :: Gazz ::
Overtune BBS :: Cycrow ::
PIRATE GUILD -SERIAL KICKED
Race Military :: Cycrow ::
RESTORE RACE SHIPS
Remote Docked Freight Exchange :: BOF ::
REMOTE TRANSPORT DEVICE - XAICORP
REVIVE DEAD SHIPS
Salvage Claim Software :: Cycrow ::
Satalite Early Warning Network :: Cycrow ::
Satellite Deploy :: Bhruic (some Extensions by Gazz) ::
Sensor Boost Plugin :: Ulfius ::
Ship Jamming Device :: Cycrow ::
Super Tractor :: Gazz ::
TRACKER Mines :: Gazz ::
Trading Distribution Network :: Cycrow ::
Trading Station Deluxe :: Gazz ::
Treasurehunt Redux :: LV ::
WarehouseCommands :: DeltaWolf ::
Xenon Migration :: Cycrow ::
Xenon Shipyard :: Jakesnake5 ::
YAKI ARMADA
Yaki and Missiles :: Jakesnake5 ::

Phew think that's it

[pjknibbs]

I have no idea if it'll work, but what if you drop the crystal and then pick it back up in the normal way? Is that possible?

[jackmcbarn]

she was green to me when I did the mission to free her from the bliss place, and I've been doing the crystal missions since

There's definitely a bug there then. She should have turned from green back to blue after you got her ship out of the station.

[rafezetter]

I have no idea if it'll work, but what if you drop the crystal and then pick it back up in the normal way? Is that possible?

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tried that - said so in OP:

I've tried going back to xenon 101 and ejecting/ recollecting the crate, I've tried doing that the other side of the gate in napoleous memorial,..-

I've tried doing it normally, by ejecting it then checking info on the crate with "i" before re-collecting normal way.

last thing i'm going to try is to go back to X101 and eject, identify and collect near the wreck, even tho many ppl have said it's not always near it.

after that if story is bugged and not fixable, I dunno...storyline is important to me in these things, I've played my fill of empty single player open sandbox space games as I've been doing it since Elite and followups, once the story is done it's more of the same.

[Nanook]

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after that if story is bugged and not fixable, I dunno...storyline is important to me in these things, I've played my fill of empty single player open sandbox space games as I've been doing it since Elite and followups, once the story is done it's more of the same.

Apples and oranges. It's true that Elite and its successors had little to do other than fly, kill, trade, ad nauseum. However, the X games offer much more to do. If you don't enjoy sandbox games - setting your own goals and making your own story - then perhaps the X games aren't really for you.

Especially the games before TC, the plots were but a tiny fraction of the gameplay, and could be safely ignored. Basically, the storylines are there just to set the stage for the real gameplay. I personally found the plot in Reunion so annoying that I only completed it once out of the multitude of gamestarts I played. It really added very little to the overall gameplay, IMO.

[rafezetter]

last night I went back into CBSW to do a merc mission and once again Saya started shooting at me, so...peed off I shot back, and she started yelling "hey I'm on your side", sheilds went down pronto, but her hull must be huge - or invulnerable, as I couldn't make a dent even with 8 AHEPT's, so looks like destroying her in the hope of a respawn/ reset seems unlikely.

edit: even firing a massive salvo of hornets, thunderbolt and other missiles, her hull isnt dropping below 95%

Edit: missed Nanooks comment about her being indestructible...

so...mission bugged (separate thread), saya bugged, and can't do Bala gi as paranid prime is all red...

If someone at egosoft can't tell me how to reset her, time for morrowind oblivion I guess...

End of line.....

[VincentTH]

Well, with just a long list of Mods, you are bound to have problems with the plot!!!

[rafezetter]

Well, with just a long list of Mods, you are bound to have problems with the plot!!!

very constructive... and I know other players with huge mod lists, and if it were a mod doing it, why has this a) not come up repeatedly before on forums (I've checked - it hasn't) b) not had a warning put on the mod(s) in question somewhere REALLY REALLY obvious - like right next to the DL link that it will break your game, (like the mod making all SPP's reliant on crystals - says so in BIG LETTERS this mod will have an adverse effect on your game) and c) why would someone even make a mod that would break your game?

think about it for a second if you are able, this game is 5+ years old and played by hundreds of people (with new people starting/ restaring ALL THE TIME), surely by now someone would have come across this before if it were mod related - all my mods come from the DL library for X3:R, and even mod conflicts should have NO EFFECT on specific AI (meaning Saya) - unless it's been put in there like a virus, which once again someone else would have found before me.

go back to trolling in wow