[AP] Win7-x64 out of RAM issue -- Resolved

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[AP] Win7-x64 out of RAM issue -- Resolved

Post by Mergelsberg »

I've been playing AP for the past few weeks now and recently I've been getting a message from Windows after a few hours of gameplay.
In this message Windows suggests that because X3AP is using ~3GB of RAM that I may want to close it down to free up RAM.

When this happens there is always several GB of swap still available, but even tacking on 2GB extra in swap doesn't pacify windows.

I've run with perfmon open in the background to see if this message is caused by some sort of memory leak, but that does not seem to be the case. Memory usage seems to hover around 2900-3000MB and the message only pops up when it exceeds 3100MB.

As it stands my game is relatively new, under 2 days of played time. The only thing I can think of is that the messages started soon after I launched my first ST.

I have the steam version of the game and both TC and AP verify correctly. As far as I know the game should be vanilla, although in game statistics do show the modified tag.
I have no idea why this is, I do have the bonus pack for TC installed, but the AP install is fresh from steam vanilla.

Anyways, is this message a known issue? If so is there a fix or workaround other than hurry to make a save and restart the game?

DX-diag spam below:

fake edit: DXdiag is taking awfully long. I'll post a report once I sort that out.

edit: DXdiag64 will not generate a report for some reason. DXdiag32 will.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 2/5/2012, 21:29:27
       Machine name: ADEALIDE
   Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
           Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
       System Model: G33M-DS2R
               BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
             Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4094MB RAM
          Page File: 1458MB used, 7124MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GTX 460
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E22&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1
     Display Memory: 3805 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 2014 MB
      Shared Memory: 1791 MB
       Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: Acer P225HQL
         Monitor Id: ACR014E
        Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
        Output Type: DVI
        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.9036 (English)
     Driver Version: 8.17.12.9036
        DDI Version: 11
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 11/24/2011 05:59:00, 17474368 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
  Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4D62-11CF-FC40-0C201FC2C535}
          Vendor ID: 0x10DE
          Device ID: 0x0E22
          SubSys ID: 0x00000000
        Revision ID: 0x00A1
 Driver Strong Name: oem31.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section005:8.17.12.9036:pci\ven_10de&dev_0e22
     Rank Of Driver: 00E60003
        Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C 
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                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
       D3D9 Overlay: Supported
            DXVA-HD: Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0885&SUBSYS_1458A002&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 11/20/2010 11:44:23, 350208 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Microsoft
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0885&SUBSYS_1458A002&REV_1001
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 11/20/2010 11:44:23, 350208 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Microsoft
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
            Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 11/20/2010 11:44:23, 350208 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Saitek Magic Hotkey Device
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x5081
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00DD
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Microsoft Hardware USB Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0724
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Saitek X52 Flight Controller
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x1
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x075C
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2936
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| 
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00DD
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| 
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| 
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| 
+ Microsoft SideWinder Mouse (IntelliPoint)
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0724
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_045e&pid_0724&col01
| Upper Filters: Point64
| Service: mouhid
| 
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 80.9 GB
Total Space: 152.5 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: SAMSUNG SP1614C

      Drive: G:
 Free Space: 0.0 GB
Total Space: 2.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0

      Drive: H:
 Free Space: 0.0 GB
Total Space: 2.1 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: SAMSUNG HD103UJ

      Drive: I:
 Free Space: 104.8 GB
Total Space: 200.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0

      Drive: K:
 Free Space: 925.6 GB
Total Space: 1705.6 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0

      Drive: L:
 Free Space: 118.2 GB
Total Space: 951.7 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: SAMSUNG HD103UJ

      Drive: E:
      Model: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1S
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (Dutch), , 0 bytes

      Drive: D:
      Model: MPQD O1I7K5EZG96 SCSI CdRom Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (Dutch), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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     Name: Intel(R) G33/G31/P35/P31 Express Chipset Processor to I/O Controller - 29C0
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C0&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&00
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2938&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&D1
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_92\3&13C0B0C5&0&F0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 294A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_294A&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E5
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2937&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&D0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2368&SUBSYS_B0001458&REV_00\4&1B8E5D96&0&00E4
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 5 - 2948
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2948&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E4
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2936&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&EA
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 2940
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2940&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2935
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2935&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E9
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_E0001458&REV_01\4&39AEACF1&0&00E5
   Driver: n/a

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293E&SUBSYS_A0021458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&D8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2934&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&E8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E22&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\4&309465BD&0&0008
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293C&SUBSYS_50061458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&D7
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family SMBus Controller - 2930
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2930&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&FB
   Driver: n/a

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0BEB&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\4&309465BD&0&0108
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A&SUBSYS_50061458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&EF
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9R/DO/DH SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2922&SUBSYS_B0051458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&FA
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Texas Instruments 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_8024&SUBSYS_10001458&REV_00\4&30D54F48&0&38F0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) G33/G31/P35/P31 Express Chipset PCI Express Root Port - 29C1
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_29C1&SUBSYS_50001458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&08
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2939&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&D2
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) ICH9R LPC Interface Controller - 2916
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2916&SUBSYS_50011458&REV_02\3&13C0B0C5&0&F8
   Driver: n/a

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DivX Decoder Filter,0x00800000,1,1,DivXDec.ax,7.01.0001.0014
ffdshow Video Decoder,0xff800001,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3951.0000
WMT VIH2 Fix,0x00200000,1,1,WLXVAFilt.dll,15.04.3508.1109
Record Queue,0x00200000,1,1,WLXVAFilt.dll,15.04.3508.1109
WMT Switch Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WLXVAFilt.dll,15.04.3508.1109
WMT Virtual Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,WLXVAFilt.dll,15.04.3508.1109
WMT DV Extract,0x00200000,1,1,WLXVAFilt.dll,15.04.3508.1109
WMT Virtual Source,0x00200000,0,1,WLXVAFilt.dll,15.04.3508.1109
WMT Sample Information Filter,0x00200000,1,1,WLXVAFilt.dll,15.04.3508.1109
ffdshow DXVA Video Decoder,0xff800002,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3951.0000
ffdshow raw video filter,0x00200000,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3951.0000
ffdshow Audio Decoder,0x3fffffff,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3951.0000
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
DivX AAC Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,daac.ax,7.01.0000.0010
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7601.17514
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514
AVS Video Out,0x00200000,0,1,AVSVideoOutFilter.ax,1.00.0000.0086
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder,0x00810000,1,1,L3CODECX.AX,1.09.0000.0311
MPC - MPEG-2 Video Decoder (Gabest),0x00500001,1,1,Mpeg2DecFilter.ax,1.05.0003.3514
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
Internal LMRT Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,LMRTREND.dll,6.00.0004.0827
Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
DivX MKV Demux (unrestricted),0x00200000,0,1,DMFSource.ax,1.00.0002.0006
MPC - FLV Splitter (Gabest),0x00600000,1,1,FLVSplitter.ax,1.05.0003.3514
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
WavPack Audio Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,WavPackDSDecoder.ax,1.01.0000.0484
TrueMotion 2.0 Decompressor,0x00600001,1,1,tm20dec.ax,1.00.0000.0001
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Haali Media Splitter,0x00800001,0,1,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
Haali Media Splitter (AR),0x00400000,1,1,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
XviD MPEG-4 Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,xvid.ax,
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DivX H.264 Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,DivXDecH264.ax,9.00.0001.0021
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Haali Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,dxr.dll,
File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,WLXVAFilt.dll,15.04.3508.1109
DivX Decoder Filter,0x00800000,1,1,DivXDec.ax,7.01.0001.0014
VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7601.17514
DivX Demux,0x00600000,1,0,DivXMedia.ax,
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Haali Simple Media Splitter,0x00200000,0,1,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
DirectVobSub,0x00200000,2,1,VSFilter.dll,2.40.3514.0003
DirectVobSub (auto-loading version),0x00800002,2,1,VSFilter.dll,2.40.3514.0003
WAV Dest,0x00000000,0,0,,
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Haali Matroska Muxer,0x00200000,1,0,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
Cutlist File Source,0x00200000,0,1,qcut.dll,6.00.0002.0902
DivX MKV Demux,0x00600000,0,1,DMFSource.ax,1.00.0002.0006
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow Audio Processor,0x00200000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3951.0000
DivX Subtitle Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,DivXMedia.ax,
URL StreamRenderer,0x00600000,1,0,LMRTREND.dll,6.00.0004.0827
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
MPC - FLV Source (Gabest),0x00600000,0,0,FLVSplitter.ax,1.05.0003.3514
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
WavPack Audio Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,WavPackDSSplitter.ax,1.01.0000.0323
ffdshow subtitles filter,0x00200000,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3951.0000
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Haali Video Sink,0x00200000,1,0,splitter.ax,1.11.0096.0014
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7601.17514
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow video encoder,0x00100000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3951.0000
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX 6.9.2 Codec (4 Logical CPUs),0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MainConcept DV Codec 2.0.4,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Fraps Video Decompressor,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V3,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VP60® Simple Profile ,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VP61® Advanced Profile,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Windows Media Video 9,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Xfire Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
XviD MPEG-4 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX 6.9.2 YV12 Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Messenger Audio Codec,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SHARP G.726,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
NCT ALF2 CD,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
AC-3 ACM Decompressor,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

Audio Capture Sources:
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High De,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

PBDA CP Filters:
PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
HD Audio Digital in,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
HD Audio Speaker,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
HD Audio SPDIF out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (High Definition Audio,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High De,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

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EVR Power Information
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Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality) 
  Quality Flags: 2576
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow half deinterlace
    Allow scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 100
  Balanced Flags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 50
  PowerFlags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 0
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cakes
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Post by cakes »

Looking at your DXDIAG report, it suggests you have a 2GB variant of the NVIDIA 460.

Windows 7 (and Vista) will hardware reserve ~80-100% of your graphics card RAM in system RAM. Your graphics memory allocation from your report is below:

     Display Memory: 3805 MB 
   Dedicated Memory: 2014 MB 
      Shared Memory: 1791 MB 

You can see here that you're system is reserving 1.791 GB of system RAM purely for your graphics card.

Your symptoms are common, in my experience, when specifying a 2 GB graphics card for a system with 4 GB of RAM.

Please don't rush out and buy more RAM though, incase you have a different underlying issue.

Specifying more swap file won't alleviate this issue.

If you have an alternative graphics card you can use, with 1GB of RAM, that may be a good test.

I'm also not sure that the memory remap feature in some BIOS's will help this issue (incase you've tried this).

I would be really interested if CBJ could comment on this / the way the new GFX improvements in AP v1.1 affect memory addressing with either the graphics RAM or the hardware reserved system RAM. I'm sure this might be a spurious line of inquiry however.

Anyone else got any further thoughts on this?

**EDIT** Just so you know, you have some codecs installed which behave badly with X3(haali, ffdshow etc). I'm sure the Mods will do a much more thorough assessment.

In addition, you have a generic Microsoft sound driver installed. The OEM driver might be a better option.
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Shootist
Posts: 1788
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Post by Shootist »

cakes wrote:Looking at your DXDIAG report, it suggests you have a 2GB variant of the NVIDIA 460.

Windows 7 (and Vista) will hardware reserve ~80-100% of your graphics card RAM in system RAM. Your graphics memory allocation from your report is below:

     Display Memory: 3805 MB 
   Dedicated Memory: 2014 MB 
      Shared Memory: 1791 MB 

You can see here that you're system is reserving 1.791 GB of system RAM purely for your graphics card.

Your symptoms are common, in my experience, when specifying a 2 GB graphics card for a system with 4 GB of RAM.
Sort of correct for 32bit windows. However, this is most assuredly NOT how 64-bit Windows works. Win7 Ultimate 64bit Windows has an User address space of 196 gigabytes, and to top it off, video RAM is re-mapped to the Top of that memory space. So no, Win7 does not reserve system RAM for accessory RAM, it just maps the video card to it's HUGE memory space.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library ... _windows_7

@OP

Is FFDshow set to exclude X3? See sticky at top of page. However, I don't believe this is the source of your issue.

If you add an additional 2GB (or more) of physical RAM X3 will use up to ~3.6-3.7GB, instead of ~3GB. As a 32bit application X is limited to the first 4GB of address space. However your O/S, and other applications can reside in the additional memory, freeing up that 4GB address space for X3?? to use.

You might also try to pare down the amount of memory your O/S and ancillary programs are using. You should be able to free up as much as 200-300MB of memory by either starting msconfig and disabling everything not Microsoft, or opening Task Manager and shutting off the extra stuff.

I'm going to guess you are modified because your Anti-virus doesn't play well with others. You should be able to exclude the X3 directories from you AV software's tentacles. After you exclude X3?? you can re-verify with Steam to get a clean install. However your current savegames will be marked *modified*.

As to whether this is a known issue, I haven't had high memory usage in AP yet, but my current TC game uses 3.6GB after about an hour of play. I can tell because sector changes become slower as the system flushes the game cache. I do not get out of memory errors however.

I've written this as I've read your post. You are going to have to repair your directX install. I don't know if this will solve your issue, but it is a good place to start.
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Mergelsberg
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Post by Mergelsberg »

I haven't got a spare VGA card with less VRAM, I suppose I could borrow my girlfriend's GTX560, but that is also a 2GB card. Suggesting X3AP to the IGP seems like a bad idea.

I have excluded Haali and FFDshow etc from messing with X3, I've known that mess since X3R, I assumed AP would be the same so I sorted that before even starting the game the very first time.

As far as it's relevant I run MS Forefront for anti-virus, I've not known it to interfere with programs before, so if that has caused the *modified* tag then so be it. I was planning on modding anyway, so I was just curious if AP games are supposed to be tagged as *modified*

The MS generic sound driver is oddly enough the driver the OEM tells me to install. It's HDCP compliant and so far has never given me trouble, so I'm not complaining about it.

As for killing tasks, there isn't much to be killed. Not counting FF, Steam and Pidgin there are 56 processes running, all of which are either non-descriptive svchosts or driver related stuff.
Currently taskman reports about 1,4GB of RAM being used when the system is idle. Though I am pretty sure that part of that is pre-fetched data to make programs start more quickly.

Mind you I have no issues with slowdown in game, sector transitions take a few seconds, but they do not get noticeably longer.
It's just that after a while windows will alt-tab me out of the game to advice me to close this memory hog. I can continue to play after that, but the message will come back every few minutes.

Upgrading my RAM wasn't in my planning, DDR2 isn't as cheap as it used to be. Considering it's not a part I can carry over into a new system, I'm not that keen on spending money on it.
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cakes
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Post by cakes »

@Shootist - If you're that confident on the memory addressing issue, then fair enough. My info came from a conversation with a MS consultant onsite, about a similar issue with a corporate app. It is however, not the first time I've had conflicting/ambiguous infomation from individuals at MS (nothing inferred). Your explaination makes sense, so you learn something new every day.

To the OP, fair enough on the sound card issue, it was worth a check.

Regarding your endpoint security (MS Forefront), try excluding your Steam repository or your X3 directory (+subdirectories) from the live scanning. AP isn't modified by default, so MS Forefront has most likely interfered with this, unless you had some mods installed at the time your status changed.
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Shootist
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Post by Shootist »

cakes wrote:@Shootist - If you're that confident on the memory addressing issue, then fair enough. My info came from a conversation with a MS consultant onsite, about a similar issue with a corporate app. It is however, not the first time I've had conflicting/ambiguous infomation from individuals at MS (nothing inferred). Your explaination makes sense, so you learn something new every day.
Read up on Kernel and User memory in 32bit Windows. Then compare that to the memory structure of 64bit Windows.

What you described is a memory shortage caused by Windows 32bit re-mapping video RAM to the top 2GB (Kernel) of the 4GB memory space. This can cause a reduction of memory in the lower 2GB of memory space (User). Which is why video cards were generally limited to values up to 768MB. (nvidia 8000 and 9000 series, for example).

To OP, I've been successful reducing my start up memory load to about 800MB in Win7. But I've not yet been able to find the site that had a list of all the unnecessary services that can be disabled. If I find it, I'll post here.

[edit] Oh, and you can kill the Steam processes after you start the game. That will save 50-60MB. When you do, a Steam error server will start and you can safely kill that as well.

[edit2] Here is a list of services that can be disabled, or set to manual, to reduce memory load on start. This list is not exhaustive, but the site I originally referenced appears to have gone to the great bit bucket in the sky.

http://www.askvg.com/windows-7-services ... to-manual/

another

http://windows7themes.net/windows-7-ser ... sable.html
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@ OP: I wouldn't worry about your graphics card, it seems fine for use with Win7 x64 and I wouldn't downgrade it. Make sure you are using x64 sound and graphics drivers and not x32 ones though.

Definitely get a brand-named Win7 HD audio driver for the the sound chipset on your mobo rather than use that default MS one.

If you have disabled Ffdshow for use with both X3TC and X3AP .exe files then you still have Haali. I am unaware of any way to disable Haali for specific files that actually works. I would uninstall the codec pack that probably installed them as you really do not need them.

The most convenient way that I have found to kill unnecessary applications and services when gaming is to download and use the freeware/shareware Game Booster.

Consider fixing your pagefile size by setting both initial and max size to the same value of 6 Gb. X3 is not a good user of dynamic pagefile for some reason. It is easy to put back to OS-managed if you do not like the results.
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I need Haali when messing with video for my work, I understand the dislike of this meddlesome mediasplitter, but I don't think it's causing this problem.

The sound driver has no OEM version, there is a Realtek reference driver, but that oddly enough gives me choppy sound in other games. I went back to the MS driver because that seems to work better.

My pagefiles are all fixed in size. There's a tiny 512MB one on C:, the two big ones each have their own partition on the other two physical drives.
It's a habit of mine, I like my swap to be separate from the rest of the files. Letting the OS manage the pagefile will invariably lead to fragmentation, which gleefully kills what little performance the pagefile had to begin with.

Also all my drivers are x64 versions if they're available, for some reason DxDiag64 was being stubborn about generating a report. The report in my initial post probably shows 32 bit drivers because it's the 32 bit version of DxDiag.
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I believe this realtek sound driver is a year newer than the one you have installed. It is specific to your motherboard model.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product ... 34&dl=1#dl
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Shootist wrote:I believe this realtek sound driver is a year newer than the one you have installed. It is specific to your motherboard model.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product ... 34&dl=1#dl
I am aware of this driver, however, like I said earlier it gives me choppy sound. Sound will play fine for a few seconds, then hiccup, then play fine again for a few seconds, then hiccup again etcetera.


Though I have found the root cause of the issue and resolved it. Turns out that this isn't X3AP related, but was an issue in the firmware of one of my hard drives.
The drive would drop into a deep power-saving mode after only 8 seconds and then take too long to wake up again. This caused Windows to think the drive had disconnected.
This in turn made windows reject the pagefile on that drive, leaving the system with only ~500MB of headroom left in the pagefile. Which explains the low memory warning as X3AP nearly takes up all RAM.
Editing the firmware of the hard drive and changing the idle time out from 8 to 300 seconds prevents this.
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Post by Shootist »

That's a great fix. You were really starting to dig deep.
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