X Story? Non fan fiction? (Major spoilers)

[volkov545]

Hey all,
I'm pretty big into X3 reunion and can't wait to play terran conflict.. but I really want to know more about what happened in the first two games. Unfortunately this seems to be information that can't really be found anywhere.. I kind of want to know stuff like, who is julians mom, why did julian never meet kyle, why is kyle in a coma, how saya and Ian knew julian beforehand.. and so on..

also on a seperate note.. What the heck is up with sargon and the earth portal? I mean.. he shows Ian the wrong place.. turns out he wasn't tryng to open a portal to earth... and the next thing we know the paranid who are tryng to merely open new trade routes get some interference from Sargon and Ian, and boom.. there's an earth portal.. even though no one knew where earth was and Sargon wasn't tryng to get there.. This confused me a lot and I wonder if I missed something in the last two games. Anyway, any help on this stuff would be great, I want to know as much as I can.. I'm sort of a lore junkie.

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[Fitzy Of Sydney]

I would suggest trying the good old Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Universe#The_X_Universe , also Argonpedia has some interesting stuff. http://argonopedia.ppcis.org/

[volkov545]

yeah.. problem is those are really only good for finding the history of the races and the x universe.. they don't really touch on the first two games at all

[Fitzy Of Sydney]

yeah.. problem is those are really only good for finding the history of the races and the x universe.. they don't really touch on the first two games at all

True.

I suppose when I complete XBTF I may feel like writing some thing..... but hey I will be too busy starting back on X2.... so that I can get back to X3.



You can still click through wiki to get an idea.

[The Zig]

And why does Sargon, amidst his dealings with the Paranid, take the time out to stalk you through X2 and save you from a random Pirate attack?!
This is a constant frustration in the X-Universe.
The plot in X3 really felt like it had been tied on with shoelaces, more so than in X2. The main character dialogue was decent, but the other races just collapsed into empty charicatures.

IMO the problem is Egosoft just don't have enough confidence in the plot to let it actually affect the Universe. They try to keep it separate from the rest of the game - something the player can dip in and out of at will without any risk - which really limits the scope.
Like: "I'll just take a break from thwarting the menacing, relentless evil that's racing to destroy all while I build up this Bofu loop. Nice little earner. Oh look a space fly!"
Various bits of lore in-game say that the Boron and Split relationship is tense. That the Boron constantly fend off attacks from arrogant, young Split... WHERE?! I've been everywhere and I've never seen this. I've sat there and watched them scoot amically about their business, just like everyone else! It says the Ion Disrupter reduced Spilt attacks by incapacitating Split ships leaving the pilot drifting in space, and humiliatingly forced to comm the Boron for help... This ain't the same Ion Disrupter I've got. Mine just strips shields.

So, the plots tend to be inconsistent (a race to save the Universe that you can complete at your leisure?!) and the lore's neglected in game lest it actually affect something.
They seem to be suggesting this will all change with X3:TC, which sounds quite a plot driven concept - but then I remember them trumpeting something similar for X3.

Anyway, if you want a walkthrough of the X2 storyline, I really, really recommend X2: The Spoof. It covers about everything, and gets most of its comedy from its accuracy!

[volkov545]

mm so I guess the story just doesn't make sense.. and here I thought I was just missing something.. I'm also confused as to why Ian kidnapped Mirrai after you already had the crystal

edit: read the spoof.. I found it a bit overly critical, sounds like the game might be worth playing though... At least I understand the plot a bit better now.. I still would like to know how kyle wound up the way he did and how the Xenon MO got blasted.. Maybe I'll go ahead and buy and play through the first two when I get some time

[KiwiNZ]

Check the List of fan fiction topic or just search the forum for FARNHAMS LEGEND. This is the original book written to accompany XbtF. In a community effort, back in the days, we translated it from German to English and the pre-release version has been published on this forum.

[KRM398]

Ok, maybe I can hel a little...in XBTF..Kyle comes to the X universe by acident, testing a new warp drive for earth. Here he finds the argon, and moves in to find anything he can about earth and a way back. In the process time passes, he falls in love with an argon woman,(cant remember her name, he named his X2 corvette after her though). And they had a son, as he couldnt spend time with them like ashe wanted, she took their newborn son and left him. Julian never met his father, and since his mother was a total..B....h, he left her as a young boy, and with nowhere to go spent years with the pirates learning the trade.

Meanwhile Kyle and his friends at argon intelligence were searching for julian, and eventually found him on his way to prison. With some name dropping and a few threats, Ban Danna gets him off, and sends him to rehab for a steroid adiction, and he comes out clean, oweing Ban and his father whom he stioll never met, his life. He works a little under the table so to speak for Ban, anytime he calls, and goes about trying to prove he's as good as his father, the hero of the xenon war, who helped stop the xenon by destroying their massive MO in combat. Now he's back, but Kyle gets info and runs off to see about an old ship that might have the coordinates to earth on it, and gets captured by the Khaak, and tortured and wired into their biggest ship, then they attack argon at Omicron Lyre, and Ban and the argon forces respond. Ban calls Julian and his friends, all ace pilots, including Saya Kho, and Julians friend Brett, from his pirate days to help and they save Kyle who, as he gets disconected from the machine, goes into a coma.

Everyone goes home victorious, but Julian still never emt his father, who now lyes in a coma, while Julian still works to impress the universe. Theres some question about how well Julian and Saya know each other, best friends for sure, something else...well.. they wont say, but they seem to argue and harass each other at every ocasion possible.

In X3, the Khaak attack argom prime, where Kyle is in the hospital, and the close proximity to Khaak ships brings him around, and he steals a ship and goes after the old ship just like before, but Julian already got it and argon has it and Kyle doesnt know, so Ban sends Julian after him, while the senate worries and sends headhunters just in case. They finally meet, and they return to argon, where the paranid are found to be the real problem, and julian gets blamed for murder, and the whole family gets extridited to paranid, but escape with Bans help. They go to some friends and get help proving their inocents and the game ends with a big party and Julian still not man enough to tell Saya how he feels.

That is just a quick summery of the game so far, and yes I missed a lot, but this is long enough, ps yes I'm a fan fic writer for the forums, enjoy..lol.

[esd]

Check the List of fan fiction topic or just search the forum for FARNHAMS LEGEND. This is the original book written to accompany XbtF. In a community effort, back in the days, we translated it from German to English and the pre-release version has been published on this forum.

It should be pointed out that Farnham's Legend and the games don't actually share the exact same storyline - there's differences. For example, Brennan shows up in Company Pride in the book, but in Seizewell in the game... there's others, mainly minor, but they're there.

[Rapier]

The book does give more of an idea of what Sargon may be up to though. It is suspected that the ancients (who built the gate network) may still be out there, as the gates still sometimes re-arrange their links. They apparently did this the first time the humans built a gate and discovered the gate network, in order to keep the humans from meeting the other races. The humans never knew this and the other races never knew why the gates started leading to different sectors.

Now, when people (Paranid, whatever) start messing about building gates in X3 Reunion, it's a fair bet that they're going to be taking an interest again. Sargon appears to belong to one of the races that help the ancients, but it's not clear whether he/she/it is acting as their agent or as a rogue element. Hopefully this will be resolved in the plot for Terran Conflict.

[KiwiNZ]

Check the List of fan fiction topic or just search the forum for FARNHAMS LEGEND. This is the original book written to accompany XbtF. In a community effort, back in the days, we translated it from German to English and the pre-release version has been published on this forum.

It should be pointed out that Farnham's Legend and the games don't actually share the exact same storyline - there's differences. For example, Brennan shows up in Company Pride in the book, but in Seizewell in the game... there's others, mainly minor, but they're there.

Oh you pedant In the book drives also needed refueling and docking at a station cost kamas, if I remember correctly. Yes, there are differences between book and game and I am not sure it'd been an easy task to plot the game fully along the book's story line. Probably not, the whole trading part would have been lost during the missions and the ship would have to have been more or less fully fitted. Mind you, I still love the engine over-drive as it was in XbtF.

[Nanook]

To be even more pedantic, they talk about taking days to travel from the west gate to the south gate in Thuruk's Beard, for example. So in-sector distances were many times greater than they are in the game.

[MBD]

There is a mystery from X2 that hasn't been explained.

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In Mission 2, on the return journey to the TerraCorp HQ after picking up our favourite Boron, Mi Ton, and Saya Kho, you get jumped by lots of pirates. When it seems that you about to get destroyed a Centaur comes to the rescue, destroys the Pirates and leaves the sector without saying a word.

Does anyone have any idea on the identity of the Centaur pilot?

Later, MBD.

[Dragoongfa]

What that?

That was nothing, i needed the bounty credits

[pjknibbs]

There is a mystery from X2 that hasn't been explained.

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In Mission 2, on the return journey to the TerraCorp HQ after picking up our favourite Boron, Mi Ton, and Saya Kho, you get jumped by lots of pirates. When it seems that you about to get destroyed a Centaur comes to the rescue, destroys the Pirates and leaves the sector without saying a word.

Does anyone have any idea on the identity of the Centaur pilot?

Later, MBD.

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It's not a Centaur, it's a Dragon. Anyway, I think it's made reasonably clear that it's supposed to be Kyle Brennan, considering it's the same ship you see him being kidnapped by the Kha'ak in.

[KiwiNZ]

Throws a big raw Argnu steak at Nanook.

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It's not a Centaur, it's a Dragon. Anyway, I think it's made reasonably clear that it's supposed to be Kyle Brennan, considering it's the same ship you see him being kidnapped by the Kha'ak in.

Bollocks, Paul. Haven't you read Red Glow or what?

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But on a more serious note, yes, it is supposed to be Brennan and you'll find the Dragon later in the Khaak sector. You can identify that it is the same by the colour of the rare vision mirrors left and right side of the cockpit.