Random but persistent crash when targeting an object.

[rehen]

welll i dident get this until 27 days in (yes i like using 10x) for all we know this bug could hit every X3 player after time

[Deleted User]

Thanks Giskard, I reckon you've got the best idea for a short-term solution there...

[Silverdawn]

I have now come to the point where a saved game crashed. I did an Xenon invation mission in Ten Billion and after I got the completion message this happened.

What I noticed after the invasion was completed was that some shortcuts stoped working or behaved strange. Some stoped working all together like s.e.t.a, others like my star map buttons they just flashed before me then closed. Others worked without any problem at all, changing weapons, return to enter menu (but arrow keys jumped 2 menue items when used).

I decided to dock and see if it would be fixed by restarting X3. When I started up X3 again and reloaded, the game crashed to desktop with a exception error in x3.exe. Tried to load the game a few more times with same result. This was my first CTD in X3, didnt have any problem with the few hours I played version 1.0 either (not counting alt + tab crashes).

There have also been other signs that something isnt right with my game. None of them have been critical though. First, I have lots of extra rows in ships property window:

Argon Prime
Your Paranid Demeter
--------------------
--------------------
--------------------
--------------------
Your Argon Discoverer

and so on. The more I play the more extra rows get added. Secondly I have noticed lately that my ship in first person view (ex Argon Nova) is moving itself a pixel or two in different directions looking like it has some form of spasm in some sectors, didnt happen before and dont happen if I use 3rd person view or start a new game.

This is some of the things that have been happening to me later in my game that didnt show in the beginning. There are some more things but dont want to make this post into a novel

With fear of losing what I have built up I have descided not to play more X3 until patch 1.3 is released.

/Hopefull X3 addict

[Deleted User]

Why don't you save a copy of your save games and then start again have some fun!!

[giskard]

Btw a normal save game should be between 4meg and 5.5meg.

What sizes are the saves that you guys have that are causing the CTDs ?

If theres a size difference it may help identify buggy saves before you guys load them.

Giskard

[rehen]

Would it help if i hosted 1 of my buged saved files so that it can be looked at ?

[CBJ]

Please just keep hold of a savegame for now. We may ask for a few sample saves from particular people in order to test them.

[rehen]

np just wanting this bug fixed as soon as pos

[CBJ]

You and me both.

[swMelkor]

I just started having this problem aswell, its very annoying.

[VincentTH]

Same here. I just got this "save-CTD" now. Now, every time I hit ESC, the game crashes. Luckily I have an earlier save game that does not have this problem.

Reading CTD's post, it seems that I now have to avoid saving the game too often. Probably have to disable the autosave for that matter.

[rehen]

Sorry too say if you start crashing due too pressing escape you could well have the same bug as me i have loaded old saves i can play them for around 20min before bugs like ctd when pressing escape happen, dose give me enoth time too declare war on the argon empire and lose most of my ships but once the first bugs happen they dont seem too stop and they get worse, loading old saves even ones from 3-4 days only seems to be a delaying tatic

[VincentTH]

Yeah, I just found out that it will crash later. Oh well, I still have my Xtreme game to play, until the patch comes.

[danprivatus]

Hello from Germany (running the UK version of X3). I just ran into this issue last night. I know you all can imagine my frustration, having experienced it yourselves already. But I was very relieved to find this thread on this forum. Thanks to all of you who posted, for you have shown me that the problem is most likely not me or my system.

And many thanks to you, CBJ, for answering our queries here as best you can. I'm very gratified to know that Egosoft has given this problem high priority and I anxiouslyawait the fix. (If you need a corrupted savegame from me for testing, please let me know and I'll be happy to send it).

I love X3 and I look forward to continuing it when 1.3 comes out, hopefully with the fix for this issue. Unfortunately, I have to shelve it until then, because with these HUD CTDs, it's just not playable. I would, of course, appreciate it greatly if my corruped savegames can somehow be rehabilitated, but if not, I'll just start over -- as long as I have reasonable assurance that I won't run into this problem again.

Thanks again, all, and keep the faith!

[Fleshrend]

Crap, this problem just started for me. Like another user, however, it did occur right after driver updates - that could be one thing that sets off the problem, even if it occurs on its own eventually

[VincentTH]

I read and re-read CBJ's post but could not figure it out. I just want to avoid this problem in my current game (with Xtreme difficulty).

Basically, I think there is a bug in the load command, i.e. some fields are not initialized correctly.

[Hob Anagerik]

What I would be curious to know is how a problem that was discovered 3-4 days after release was never found by the beta testers? Since it seems to involve saving and loading games repeatedly it isn't such a strange thing to test.

[Scoob]

Don't know if you've noticed but The_Abyss posted on this thread that Egosoft are planning to release an interim 1.21 patch that will hopefully resolve many of the CTD problems, namely those relating to mouse-targeting and the like.

Scoob.

[VincentTH]

Thanks Scoob, I am glad Egosoft works on 1.21. That's the right think to do, because we don't really need all the features in 1.3, we just need to progress beyond the CTDs that we are having.

[rehen]

All i can say is YAY