X3: Albion Prelude Update 2.5.1 is available!

Cowski · Post by **Cowski** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 02:01

Nanook wrote:Have you modified your game in any way?

Yeah...I'm sure of it. I saw your locked topic in another forum, Nanook. What I don't get is how the game is made to be "modded" and "scripting" done to it so it's not like the game or saved games are hacked. I find all my modded/scripting hints & tips right here on EGOSoft' forums so you guys know about it.

One would think that proper etiquette would be to warn players of the game that saved, modded games will NOT WORK with patches. THEN....give the players AN OPTION to download the patch AFTER they have completed the game. Don't download it behind their backs thinking you are doing them a favor.

I have 161 hours (per my steam client) into this game and that's pretty much shot to hell now. *sigh*

Post by **Ketraar** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 02:13

Sorry but this is your fault, if people would stop using fake patching as a way to mod X it would not be of any consequence other than the need to adjust the mod. People using fake patch mods AND steam are asking for trouble.

Still, there was a news pre-announcing the patch, which should have given a heads-up.

MFG

Ketraar

PS.: For modded games there is also the option to move the installation to a folder outside of steam and used the no-steam.exe available to all registered users.

killerog · Post by **killerog** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 02:14

Well as Egosoft don't officially support any mods/scripts how can they know which ones will break a save game after a patch. Being on this forum compared to anywhere else on the Internet means nothing.

Its a risk you take when you modify your game. What people should do if they do modify there game is turn off the auto updater in steam (again nothing to do with Egosoft). So that they can wait for the all clear from the mod authors before updating there game.

ConCorDian · Post by **ConCorDian** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 02:18

- Fixed several RRF issues

can we get any details on this? and does this mean RRF is now back to fully functional?

- Fixed exploit in freight transfer menu

what aspects have been fixed? is this just bothersomes "freight drones cant handle negative numbers" only or does it include the fact we can get PBC's from LTs as well?

Cowski · Post by **Cowski** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 02:33

Ok...I'll give you the "how do they know what is modded" fact. (mainly because I am a DBA in a software development company and it is virtually impossible to know what has been done to files not controlled by the development company...in other words my saved game.)

Auto-updater in the client. I wish it wasn't needed. I have turned off the auto-updater (I think) to avoid this from happening again. And unfortunately I know I'm not alone in the "unhappiness" that my saved games are ka-bluey.

Am I angry with EGOSOFT? No, no, not really. I am upset I'm forced to use the client to play their game that I paid for. I am angry at myself for letting this happen. But live 'n learn. I'm not trolling, just frustrated & I'm venting. Please understand this.

Lesson learned. Learn from my mistake everyone!

I still look forward to X3:Rebirth with baited breath.

Now I'm off to restart my game. *deep, heavy sigh*

Cowski · Post by **Cowski** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 02:34

killerog wrote: Its a risk you take when you modify your game. What people should do if they do modify there game is turn off the auto updater in steam (again nothing to do with Egosoft). So that they can wait for the all clear from the mod authors before updating there game.

Best piece if advice I've gotten today! Wish I got this last nite.

ezra-r · Post by **ezra-r** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 02:54

Thanks for the update!

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 03:03

ConCorDian wrote:- Fixed several RRF issues

can we get any details on this? and does this mean RRF is now back to fully functional?

From what I noticed we now get an entire fleet of RRF ships showing up

I accepted a Xenon patrol mission and got 6 or 7 RRF ships jumping in and starting to get in the way of my missiles.

Sinxar · Post by **Sinxar** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 03:05

Cowski wrote:Auto-updater in the client. I wish it wasn't needed. I have turned off the auto-updater (I think) to avoid this from happening again. And unfortunately I know I'm not alone in the "unhappiness" that my saved games are ka-bluey.

FYI there is a nosteam exe made just for people like you. You can make a copy of your game and use the nosteam exe that way it cant update your game and you can still update the steam one so you can see if your saves will work or not.

It would be silly to play a heavily modded game and let steam mess with it.

Echofinder · Post by **Echofinder** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 03:08

Wait, so it's fake patches specifically which cause this issue?

killerog · Post by **killerog** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 04:27

They can do yes. If a patch contains a new .cat/dat file this will overwrite the fake patch when steam updates the game causing all sorts of problems. Same as you would get if you update or uninstall a mod incorrectly.

If you have a corrupted save and you had a fake patch try putting the mod back as the fake patch and overwrite the latest patch .cat/dat. You might be able to save your save.

Then either wait for a mod update before patching or uninstall the mod
and then patch. It may even work if you install the mod as a fake patch again but as the next highest number (I think 4) now.

Those suggestions will only work if the patched contained a new .cat/dat file. I can't remember if it does and im on my phone at the moment so can't check.

werewolves? · Post by **werewolves?** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 05:15

Thank for the update and the additional content - between you guys and the modders I've got so much value out of this game.

eldyranx3 · Post by **eldyranx3** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 06:10

Thank You Egosoft, and all those who worked on 2.5

mr.WHO · Post by **mr.WHO** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 06:16

Anyone has a screenshot of Terran HQ?

werewolves? · Post by **werewolves?** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 06:47

mr.WHO wrote:Anyone has a screenshot of Terran HQ?

Yeah this, I want to know if it matches the drapes on my Kyoto, or maybe it will be better coordinated with a nice Valhalla

Arialth · Post by **Arialth** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 09:13

yeah an picture of the HQ will be nice.. and btw... how do you start the new plot ?

werewolves? · Post by **werewolves?** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 09:36

Arialth wrote:yeah an picture of the HQ will be nice.. and btw... how do you start the new plot ?

These are the starting conditions....unless they've changed

Spoiler

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Requirements to start the plot in the test version

- Terran Commander or Aldran Adventurer start
- Positive Terran rank (at least Local Councillor)
- Fight rank 14

<Spoiler Tags added. Alan Phipps>

Post by **Cycrow** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 10:43

Echofinder wrote:Wait, so it's fake patches specifically which cause this issue?

fake patches can cause 2 problems.
first is that they might get overriten if they are the same number as the new patch. Which means you no longer have the modded files available causing the save game to seem curropt.

the other is that you have fake patches higher than the new patch which override the new patch files with older versions causing you to have a mismatch between files.

the first is fixed by reapplying the mod after the patch.
the second is fixed by updating the mod to work with the new patch

Post by **X2-Illuminatus** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 11:20

@werewolves?
If you have to post the plot start requirements, then please use spoiler tags. There are some people who want to find out these things on their own without stumbling over them in the forum. <Done. Alan Phipps>

shea · Post by **shea** » Wed, 25. Jul 12, 11:26

Guys i started as Argon,is it possible to start the terran plot if we started as argon?if so what sector does the plot start in?thanks guys

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X3: Albion Prelude Update 2.5.1 is available!