[AL Plugin] Universal Banking "The Financial Revolution Continues" v502 26-01-11

[mark_a_condren]

@ Shockonator

You said you used Plugin Manager Version - 1.30

Use [BETA] X Plugin Manager Lite : 1.40 Beta 6 : 22/05/2011

I think that was the problem.


MarCon

[Shockonator]

Hmm this is totally weird. I updated to the newest manager like you said. But the script doesn't appear to be any different. I mean to say that it is exactly the same as it was before I re installed and all that... not working lol.

I removed all the files from the Documents folder etc.. there is no reason any of the old information should still be functioning. Ill give you a list of the other scripts I am using.

ADAMs - ITT

Advanced Jumpdrive

Command Queing

Equipment Research and Development

Logain Industries CsecG

Salvage Claim Software

Skill up Notification

Universal Banking

Cmod3 for Terran Conflict

Community Plugin Config

Hotkey Manager

Ware Manager


I don't know what the heck is going on lol. I really want to make it work though.

:edit:

Okay so, I just disabled U.B. before uninstalling it. So there shouldn't be any residue from the script.

I am going to re download the spk file and see if it is just a corrupt download. You said it looked as if a bit of the script was missing or something. We shall see!

ALAS! I finally appears to be working as intended. I reapplied patch 2.5 and huzzah! Unfortunatly I did three thigns so Im not sure which is actually the one that worked.

- I reapplied patch 2.5

- I enabled U.B. before cmod3

- Did the derp dance.

When I did load the game up the cmod red tint to the menu was gone... so I'm not entirely sure if the two conflict or if Cmod3 dosen't use the red tint. Going to load the game up again and see if it works.

:Edit2:

Odd. The tell-tail signs of Cmods presences in my game are no longer existent. I would have to try out the combat to see if it is vanilla or not. Except... I don't remember ever fighting with vanilla combat.

However, U.B. is fully operational! Do you think U.B. and Cmod conflict with each other?

[mark_a_condren]

@ Shockonator

When you uninstalled TC did you got in and delete the 'Egosoft' folder in your 'Program Files' folder. You need to do this to get rid of any backup files that Win7 creates. You said you did it for the Documents folder, but did you also do it for the 'Program Files' folder?

The only thing i can think of is that there is still part of the bad install left from your first install with the wrong Plugin Manager.

Nothing in your other installed files should effect Universal Banking.

MarCon

[Shockonator]

Yes, I purged everything relating to x3 from my computer lol.

Universal Banking is working as intended. Either it was reapplying the patch, or enabling UB before Cmod. Refer to countless edits on previous post lol.

Thank you very much for your help Mark_a_Condren. I expect to be rolling in the monnies very soon.

[mark_a_condren]

- Did the derp dance.

That's what fixed it ....

Also, sometimes if the game is trying to load to much new stuff at load time it can miss some files. I haven't had any reports of cmod and UB conflicting, so who knows. As long as you have got it working lets just call it a win. I hope you enjoy the script.


MarCon

[i64man]

Does this banking has a readme file with instructions? I have downloaded, instaalled and a hotkey for it. But either I am doing something wrong or can get the stations money transfered.

Thanks.

[mark_a_condren]

Does this banking has a readme file with instructions? I have downloaded, instaalled and a hotkey for it. But either I am doing something wrong or can get the stations money transfered.

Thanks.

The only instructions are in the OP and the rest of this thread.

Select 'Station Credit Manager' from the banking menu. Select the 'Manage linked accounts' to be able to specify where credits go or come from, then use the 'Add Station' choice and you can add stations to the monitoring. The station(s) will the show on the 'Station Credit Manager' menu. They will have 'Not Set' under the amounts heading. Select a station from the menu to be taken to the menu where you can set the lower and upper limits. That's it, done, the script does the rest. You can add or remove Stations or accounts at any time.

Just remember to turn the standard Credit Transfer option for the station off first, the one in the extra station commands. There is no owner check in the std egosoft script and if you sell a station it will constantly fill the player credits up to full. There are checks in the script to prevent this, but it's better to turn it off anyway, you shouldn't have two scripts monitoring your stations credits.


MarCon

[rujikin]

How does the loan system work early game and how to mortgages work? I really just want this so I can start my game off strong and not feel like I'm cheating.

[zymurg]

This is awesome!
Many thanks for this script.

The only question I have is each account limit 1.5B credits and doesn't each station have a limit of 2B, same as the player account? Also, is there a sums total anywhere for all the accounts, i didn't see any even on the linked accounts as grand total. (like to see all my credits, lol)

Great script

[mark_a_condren]

Sorry for the late reply.

@rujikin

Loans and mortgages are based on your assets, you can't borrow more than you already have. The more loans etc you have had the better your credit rating and the bigger percentage of the total you can borrow. With a high enough credit rating you can take out loans over indefinite periods with just the interest being charge at repayment times. Like most things, if you want to bad enough you can cheat it, if you don't want to cheat that's fine, but it wasn't designed to give credits for nothing if that's what you were asking, loans etc cost.




@ zymurg

The 1.5Bn limit for accounts was done to give the script some 'working room' before the 2bn game limit was reached.

For the same reason, the 2bn game limit on numbers, there was deliberately no 'Grand Total' for accounts put in. It would be far more confusing 'I think' for players with a lot of credits in accounts to be looking at a negative number as a grand total. When the 2bn number limit (well a bit over really) is reached the game engine then reverts to displaying negative numbers.

But, thanks for your feedback and questions.


MarCon

[marcelteaching]

Absolutely love the script. Some suggestions :

1. It is too easy to increase credit ranking, simply by taking 10 small loans instead of one large one. Perhaps it should be based on the amount, and be increased gradually?

2. Would love to see more options unlock as you rank up, and more options! How about INSURANCE? (Sneaky thing would be premiums, increased claims = higher costs).

3. I would like it to message me when a loan becomes due, rather than have a credit rating loss due to an oversight.

Thanks for a great script!

[mark_a_condren]

@ marcelteaching

Glad you like the script.

To answer you suggestions /questions.

1. There were a few ways the rank increase could have been done, by amount as you suggested was one of them. As it turned out, by each loan, regardless of amount, was the most stable and easy to keep track of way that was quite apparent to the player as to what was happening and how / why. I think it's up to the player as to if they want to take out small loans to boost rank (credit rating), pure player preferences. I don't think it will be getting changed any time soon, sorry.

2. LV did an Insurance script somewhere and from what i heard it was quite good. That might be something you might like to find and have a look at. To do it well is really quite involved and be an amazing headache to get right apparently. I just don't have the time lately to devote to such and endeavor. RL has got me by the short and curlies.

3. From memory you should already be notified re player logbook message that you have a loan repayment coming due. Didn't it get put into the options to turn these, and other, notifications on/off? (see, it's been a while since i even got time to play and use many of my own scripts, trying to remember what each did and how is getting to be a challenge 'I wonder if this could also be age related, Hmmm' ).


MarCon

[mcaule]

Is it AP compatible?

[marcelteaching]

1 +3 Thanks! I will look into it a little more closely.
2. Is this the one? http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=122756 If so, are reunion scripts compatible with X3TC?

And re. time, that's okay, I appreciate it very much!

[mark_a_condren]

Is it AP compatible?

Not sure, should be though. It could do with updating to AP as well, just no time atm


@ marcelteaching

No that's not the one i ment, just looked for the one i did mean and can't find it anywhere, sorry. Reunion scripts will NOT work in TC or AP, unless it states they have been converted to do so. They should be listed in the TC and AP S&M forum if they have.


MarCon

[mcaule]

Tested. Works perfectly with AP 1.1

[Grimshad]

So I've been using this for a few days now and i don't understand a couple things.

1. Other than getting interest, which is really low and not worth not touching your money for an entire hour(unless you have money you weren't going to touch anyway). What is the point of putting your money in a bank account?

2. What is the point of putting money in the "Auto station accounts" when the bank automatically transfers my money from my player account to the station account and then to the station anyway?

3. I took out a small loan just to see how it works. Why can I only pay off the loan completely? How come I cannot make payments on the loan? I want to make payments over time so the loan balance will be reduced slowly over time. Instead I can only pay off the entire loan and I have to pay it off within an hour, that is kind of dumb. EDIT: I've got enough credit now so that the term of my loan is unlimited, but there is still something very wrong here: Lets say I take out a loan of 100 million credits at 10%, so I owe 100 million credits + 10 million in interest, but instead of paying the loan and interest over time it obviously wants the interest and loan paid in full all at once. The problem is, I am charged the full interest every single payment. Take real life for example: When you take out a loan like this your not supposed to pay 10 million every month + put whatever you can toward your balance. You pay 10 million over the entire period of the loan. As you pay back the balance of the loan, a portion of the payment is taken out and put toward the total interest. So if I made a payment to this loan of 10 million, then 9 million would go to the balance and 1 million (10%) would go toward the 10 million i owe in interest. Once the 10 million of interest is paid off, it's paid off and then your just paying back the balance of the loan. It is ridiculous that you have to pay the entire 10 million in interest every single payment. It's even worse that there are no payment,s you either don't pay or you pay the entire balance here...

Other then those aspects, I love the idea and like the auto handling of station credits as well as being able to sell stations. I love the idea of loans and mortgages, but unless i'm missing something I don't think the idea is implemented very well.

Thanks for the great script though.

[masterdies]

I've got a problem.
Every text ist a Read Text error.
Is use AP

[joelR]

I've got a problem.
Every text ist a Read Text error.
Is use AP

Try reinstalling. You're missing a tfile

[Alexology]

so if I turn off 'auto transfer' does this mean that my station would transfer into my back account instead of my player account?