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CBJ wrote: Tue, 28. May 19, 17:39 Also with this release, the Linux version of the game is now available to all players...
In addition to routinely crashing at startup, it started crashing in-game which it didn't before, mouse pointers and fonts still look like crap, alt-tabbing randomly kills v-sync and/or character animations, as well as makes certain UI elements appear where they shouldn't, people reportedly have issues with controllers. EDIT: Oh, how could I forget? It still doesn't sign saves, which means that any cross-platform save transfer is insta-**modified**. Everything except the recent crashes has been reported pretty much from the first Linux release. But hey, it's out of beta now. Yay?

Congratulations on another milestone.
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Re: X4: Foundations 2.50 released

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radcapricorn wrote: Tue, 28. May 19, 20:28
CBJ wrote: Tue, 28. May 19, 17:39 Also with this release, the Linux version of the game is now available to all players...
In addition to routinely crashing at startup, it started crashing in-game which it didn't before, mouse pointers and fonts still look like crap, alt-tabbing randomly kills v-sync and/or character animations, as well as makes certain UI elements appear where they shouldn't, people reportedly have issues with controllers. Everything except the recent crashes has been reported pretty much from the first Linux release. But hey, it's out of beta now. Yay?

Congratulations on another milestone.
I haven't seen this at all. Are playing with mods also do links to relevant posts because I haven't seen this reported ever.
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Re: X4: Foundations 2.50 released

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nickolaiproblem wrote: Tue, 28. May 19, 23:59 I haven't seen this at all. Are playing with mods also do links to relevant posts because I haven't seen this reported ever.
It's all in the relevant thread of a relevant sub-forum.
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Re: X4: Foundations 2.50 released

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nickolaiproblem wrote: Tue, 28. May 19, 23:59
radcapricorn wrote: Tue, 28. May 19, 20:28
CBJ wrote: Tue, 28. May 19, 17:39 Also with this release, the Linux version of the game is now available to all players...
In addition to routinely crashing at startup, it started crashing in-game which it didn't before, mouse pointers and fonts still look like crap, alt-tabbing randomly kills v-sync and/or character animations, as well as makes certain UI elements appear where they shouldn't, people reportedly have issues with controllers. Everything except the recent crashes has been reported pretty much from the first Linux release. But hey, it's out of beta now. Yay?

Congratulations on another milestone.
I haven't seen this at all. Are playing with mods also do links to relevant posts because I haven't seen this reported ever.
I've been on linux since day 1, the only thing I have seen are the character animations going a bit wonky after alt+tabbing out. The rest is naysaying, not been reported as I've been monitoring the linux threads since day 1. If people are getting them, it's system/setup dependent and not tied to the game itself.
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Re: X4: Foundations 2.50 released

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At the risk of sound a bit too snarky I would like to remind everyone that just because someone is seeing bugs they are not doesn't mean that those bugs do not exists. Instead of chastising someone for commenting on the state these bugs I would suggest removing your head from your nether regions and using it to reproduce said bugs and thereby provide the devs with the data the need to get them fixed. Either that or just shutting the hell up.
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Re: X4: Foundations 2.50 released

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Kernel Panic wrote: Wed, 29. May 19, 01:16 At the risk of sound a bit too snarky I would like to remind everyone that just because someone is seeing bugs they are not doesn't mean that those bugs do not exists. Instead of chastising someone for commenting on the state these bugs I would suggest removing your head from your nether regions and using it to reproduce said bugs and thereby provide the devs with the data the need to get them fixed. Either that or just shutting the hell up.
That's not just a bit too snarky, that is downright hostile.
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Re: X4: Foundations 2.50 released

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Kernel Panic wrote: Wed, 29. May 19, 01:16 At the risk of sound a bit too snarky I would like to remind everyone that just because someone is seeing bugs they are not doesn't mean that those bugs do not exists. Instead of chastising someone for commenting on the state these bugs I would suggest removing your head from your nether regions and using it to reproduce said bugs and thereby provide the devs with the data the need to get them fixed. Either that or just shutting the hell up.
Not once did anyone drop a savefile so yea I'm gonna work off info I currently have also some else just said they were monitoring linux and found jack shit so I don't know this faux outrage came from.
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Re: X4: Foundations 2.50 released

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nickolaiproblem wrote: Wed, 29. May 19, 01:27 Not once did anyone drop a savefile so yea I'm gonna work off info I currently have also some else just said they were monitoring linux and found jack shit so I don't know this faux outrage came from.
a) none of the aforementioned issues merit a save file
b) try reading the thread yourself for a start
c) if you don't know, you don't know, end of story

Relax guys, the developers are well aware of those issues (that is, they should be, since they're reading the Tech Sp. forum). That they're releasing Linux version to GOG/non-beta Steam despite (or in spite?) of them is their business. I'm merely laying out the state as it is, so that those interested may have an idea of what they'd be getting if they'd be buying now. There's no need to fight over this, especially if you don't have any knowledge on the subject matter.
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Re: Linux issues

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While your feedback on the issues you are having is welcome, and the information you provide will no doubt help get them fixed, there is no need to hijack the announcement thread with hostile and sarcastic comments relating to a issue that appears to affect a very small number of people.
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Re: Linux issues

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CBJ wrote: Wed, 29. May 19, 01:45 there is no need to hijack the announcement thread with hostile and sarcastic comments relating to a issue that appears to affect a very small number of people.
I'm sorry, I'll refrain from sarcasm in the future and stick to the cold hard info.
It was not my intention to start a discussion of those issues. As stated before, they're all already reported. Hence, I don't see a point in continuing this thread, as a dedicated support thread already exists. I would only ask that you put a warning regarding save files not being signed both on GOG and Steam, so the widened audience is made aware.

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Re: Linux issues

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Ok... I am just another of these "very few people", with hundreds of hour in game (since the very first day the Linux beta went out) I also haven't seen any of these instabilities, not even the "wonky animations" issue, but that might be because I am in Ubuntu LTS 18.04, which is supposedly the best supported as of now.
I think it would help disclosing information, specially the distro. Some problems might happen in just some distros. And when we're so few, it's unreasonable to ask developers to support every distro out there.
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Re: Linux issues

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I thought I already made myself clear on the discussion. No? Fine.

I'm glad for you. But you already expressed your experiences in the actual support thread, so I'm not sure why you're posting them again, here. All I can tell you is that as far as crashes or alt-tabbing issues go, they're situational, that is, may or may not appear, which makes them that much more frustrating. For example, between 2.0 and somewhere after 2.21 I myself haven't seen the animation problem, until I have. You not getting these issues does not mean that they aren't there.

Also, there's been zero input from you lately in the thread. If you're that eager to pitch in, I'd ask that you participate there instead.

Mouse pointer issue has been reported by multiple people (including myself) in the thread, and also elsewhere acknowledged by the devs. Are you going to tell me that one also doesn't present itself on your system?

But alright, crashes would probably be fixed (though I'm not holding my breath), alt-tabbing mostly can be dealt with (woe to streamers though), mouse, while annoying, is purely cosmetic. But, with this (last paragraph) still being the case, they're taking off the "Beta" label off the Linux version anyway. Here's hoping there weren't that many people waiting for it on GOG, all the while playing for hundreds of hours on Windows only to find out their saves would be modified if they migrate.

With that, I'm done with the subject in this subforum. If you really want to further the discussion, please visit this, this, and/or this thread.

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