Game is a basically unplayable buggy mess

[VeggyZ]

Funny, I'm experiencing relatively few bugs and my performance is fantastic - graphics look great too.

The only real bug that I have experienced so far that interferes with my ability to play is the random teleport bug. Any others I have experienced so far were very minor, like NPC's walking over countertops and tables.

Quite playable.

[Gazz]

The KIND of bugs that the OP complains about make this sound very promising.

Graphical glitches, script bugs and localisation entries to iron out. Couple weeks.

[Mebisis]

Text randomly disappears from menu items.

Same problem,in all menu, mission, randomly desappears. Sceenshoot can coming if needed.

[jasonbarron]

I guess I'm playing a different game then the OP. Mine is luscious looking space porn and compelling gameplay full of interesting things to do and interact with, all with a minimum of bugs.

[kolimbo]

The only bug I ran into is the random map warping bug. (You get the occasional collision glitches, but they don't impact gameplay). This game is in a far better shape than Reunion or Rebirth.

Mostly, the issue seems to be that certain systems in the game could be *better*. The AI needs a bit more work (combat is really easy) and there needs to be a bit more traffic/trading in the universe. However, there isn't actually any technical problems as far as I can tell. The game's optimization is done really well, I was getting 30-40 fps on a raggedy old R9 380, which is amazing.

[DurianTV]

game is perfectly playable. it just requires you to activate your brain. i realize that's opposite of what most modern games do, but yeah...
try.

Not exactly "perfectly" playable. I am stuck on a mission to deploy mines. I can't do it because the mines blow up every time I deploy them, destroying my ship.
The game does have potential, the devs need to iron out all the blocking bugs soon.

[Wrench69]

I agree.. Paid 90 dollars CAD on GOG. I spent about 4 hours just trying to figure out the game. Frankly I regret purchasing it.
Clipping issues galore wanna dock on a ship with an easy transport quest.. you will just fly through the ship. Docking is just broken due to mass amount of clipping issues.

Don't try using Travel mode and get up from the chair cause you will fall through your ship.

The fun times when you Warp out of no where to some random part of the map without an explanation how.

Horrible key mapping, click one to many times it unbinds something, No undo or conflict resolutions.

Then half the time when I get on space stations my character does a moon walk for some reason. Just starts gliding backwards, only fix is to exit the game.

Hand on stick is irritating just trying to fly and interact is bad.
Constant drifting when switching between mouse and joystick.

Messy UI and the tutorials that go with it.. Tutorials progress while trying to figure out where the hell everything is. Who wrote these tutorials?

Voice acting.. I think having Grunt and fart sounds would be better then the voice acting.

What the hell is up with the random sprinting NPC on bases?
Oh what the hell is up with the models? They look like they have bone cancer or they bread with apes cause they look comically bad.

This game is bad and egosoft you should feel bad for releasing such an unfinished product for this amount of money.

PS..

Why is this FORUM so slow to respond navigation?

PSS.

There is nothing but a bunch of Fan Boy circle jerking here.. I am not sure about some of the posts on these forums, cause surely they are not playing the same game as I am.
Rename X4:Foundations to X4:Broken and Unplayable.
Gone get a refund and wait a year for the game to be patched and be for about 25 bucks.

Ohh boy please get your refound and please dont come back, this type of games are not for lazy people that espects that the game should teach you everything, where is the point if you can do everything from day one, go and play another game.

For me this game is running smoth and I have now almost 15 hours without any crash, I figured out all the mechanics, and even the tutorials are nice, I do prefer that they will not give me all the info at first, you need to think also, this game is about thinking and exploring, thats the real meaning of the X games.

Salud.

Fanboy answer. This game is just bad and yes I will get a refund.

[Warnoise]

Voice acting and writing still hasn't progressed at all in this series and remains extremely cheap and amateurish

This. Characters sound like they are reading from a text. I feel like listening to an English teaching audio.

Also I wish someone mod out the female split voice. That thing is so cringy that it sometimes distracts me in the game...

[orphias]

My graphics settings are on Ultra and my PC has no trouble playing the game. I actually think the graphics are quite pretty.

Played about 10 hours so far, and my only frustrations have been when I purchased a mining ship and lost all access to the trading screen, and when I purchased a frigate and thought how awesome 4 turrests would be and discovered they are basically worthless because they never hit anything. Oh, I also find the EVA in the space suit to be a tad over complicated, but I am getting used to it.

[BigBANGtheory]

Graphical errors abound including missing textures and geometry, horrible low resolution distant fog and cloud billoards, apparent LOD loading errors and lack of lighting. Game looks and runs horribly (somehow managed to both look and run worse than X3).

Text randomly disappears from menu items.

Tutorials are terrible, buggy and confusing.

Voice acting and writing still hasn't progressed at all in this series and remains extremely cheap and amateurish.

Graphical options which make no sense (can't turn off Vsync, can only use FXAA because "hardware doesn't support",this is the only game where I have come across this)

General GUI layout and UX design still horrendous, unintuitive and bizzare. Very little progression since the previous games (which were also weird and confusing for their time)

Mission text unclear, confusing and missions frequently bugged.

Finally to top it all off these forums are the only real place where one can find help and information on the game and they are incredibly slow and frequently time out.

I'm about 4hrs in so far not having left the starting zone because I'm messing around with my controls before flying off on the adventure...

Yes clearly I've spotted some issues/problems/bugs in addition to what you've noted. What I find interesting is that none of them are game breaking or so annoying I can't live with them where as XR (to me) had fundemental flaws that just couldn't be ironed out even after years of support I even tried again for the 5th time last month.

Has Egosoft released a full release game in a poor state? Maybe yes maybe no depending on how critical you want to be but more importantly is X4 fundmentally working as a space-sim come 4X/fps mashup... yes I think it is. Appreciate that this maybe some peoples first time with an Egosoft game, gotta tell you from what I've seen so far this is a good sign not a bad one which may seem strange just roll with it and we can retrospectively look back in a year or two.

My advice as a player is show some tolerance, take your time and you will be rewarded by the gameplay on offer.

[Zupje]

If you are experiencing graphical bugs like:

- Clipping
- Not being able to dock cause of clipping
- Invisible station walls
- Sudden very low poly graphics
- Text being scrambled

It's probably the age/specs of your graphical card, I had these as well, now im playing on the absolute lowest of settings, and the game runs pretty smooth.
Finally time to upgrade my GTX 760..

[Baconnaise]

Well i remember back with x-Rebirth. That was horrid. This one is soooo much better. Have played since this morning and ok have had a few bugs and had to reload a few times but i love it. Such a nice game. I had hoped for something simpler but i am getting into it slowly. Now granted if i hadnt explored so much of the features i would prob have myself a new ship by now but i find my self in situation with details i couldnt have dreamt of. Playable Definately, a few bugs definately, problem with bugs, not at all! Would still like to capture those unmanned ships here and there but im sure a patch will come that will make me able to do just that. For now i am still trying to figure out the trade mechanics and the so. Thumbs up from here!

Haha yes! God I remember I think it was patch 1.12 in Rebirth where zoning/jumping into the Alb/Plutarch shipyard area would corrupt your savegame. There were so many issues with that game and it was a buggy mess until at least 2.0-2.2 or whatever. Drones didn't work and everything relied on them. You needed them to build ships and to trade. Fun stuff was you could add like 1000 builder drones to the shipyards and they would build a ship faster than it could undock.

[Baconnaise]

If you are experiencing graphical bugs like:

- Clipping
- Not being able to dock cause of clipping
- Invisible station walls
- Sudden very low poly graphics
- Text being scrambled

It's probably the age/specs of your graphical card, I had these as well, now im playing on the absolute lowest of settings, and the game runs pretty smooth.
Finally time to upgrade my GTX 760..

It's odd but my 7950 runs the game just fine. My older 700 series like yours does not (600 series I haven't even attempted). 7950 is older gen than 700 to boot and even performs better. No clue what Nvidia does that is different that doesn't make them last.

[bl3ek]

Graphical errors abound including missing textures and geometry, horrible low resolution distant fog and cloud billoards, apparent LOD loading errors and lack of lighting. Game looks and runs horribly (somehow managed to both look and run worse than X3).

Are you under the min spec? I have the game set to ultra and yes I do get frame drops to 35-40fps (perfectly playable), but I don't see any of the issues you do. No texture loading problems at all in >30 hrs.

The game doe not look horrible, you've got rose tinted glasses - it makes X3 look very old!

One area that needs some work is more ship designs as some of the X3 designs are more interesting.

Text randomly disappears from menu items.

Thankfully I've not experienced this. Makes me wonder if it's a driver/hardware issue. I'm AMD cpu and gpu, latest drivers.

Tutorials are terrible, buggy and confusing.

Agreed, the tutorials need more polish!

Voice acting and writing still hasn't progressed at all in this series and remains extremely cheap and amateurish.

It's a vast improvement over X3, but does still feel like on a budget (small dev team).

Graphical options which make no sense (can't turn off Vsync, can only use FXAA because "hardware doesn't support",this is the only game where I have come across this)

I think they made a misstep with the latest patch in forcing this, messages sure - but locking out settings is a bit harsh.

General GUI layout and UX design still horrendous, unintuitive and bizzare. Very little progression since the previous games (which were also weird and confusing for their time)

X3 was awful and clunky, X4 is a definitely a step in the right direction but still needs some streamlining. My personal opinion is they need to hire an external UI dev to assist here, refine it some more.

Mission text unclear, confusing and missions frequently bugged.

I've not found too many missions bugs, but I agree the directions could sometimes be more clear!

Finally to top it all off these forums are the only real place where one can find help and information on the game and they are incredibly slow and frequently time out.

The forum has been dog slow - massive influx of users = good for the X series, but bad for the forum hosting.

[Liath]

General GUI layout and UX design still horrendous, unintuitive and bizzare. Very little progression since the previous games (which were also weird and confusing for their time)

Honestly I thought X2/3 had better menus than this version. I like the way the new one looks, but I found I could quickly assign tasks to ships in the older versions where this one I often find I'm in the wrong screen... where as all options should be quickly navigable without this 'oops wrong information screen' crap.

Yeah the old interface had its issues and wasn't always the easiest to work with but at least you could click a ship and get to anything and everything with just a few number-presses. Click ship>Combat>Attack/Patrol/etc or Trade>Galaxy Trader

[LuxxCapacitor]

Feel like watching a Rebirth thread.

Just seeing the 73% happiness on steam comfort me that this is isolated thingy, and yeah OP is angryly trolling the game coz of frustration.

Doesn't mean that his problems are not real tho.

So his problems are real and frustrating, but he's a troll? Why's it hard to understand that it's okay if someone else isn't as fortunate as you when it comes to experiencing bugs? Do you not think they should be fixed just because you don't experience them?

I understand wanting to support a company, but don't put someone else down because they're having a miserable time and want to speak up about it.

[jacozilla]

Feel like watching a Rebirth thread.

Just seeing the 73% happiness on steam comfort me that this is isolated thingy, and yeah OP is angryly trolling the game coz of frustration.

Doesn't mean that his problems are not real tho.

So his problems are real and frustrating, but he's a troll? Why's it hard to understand that it's okay if someone else isn't as fortunate as you when it comes to experiencing bugs? Do you not think they should be fixed just because you don't experience them?

I understand wanting to support a company, but don't put someone else down because they're having a miserable time and want to speak up about it.

I have no skin in this game, no investment of time, money, or experience - so about as unbiased as humanly possible. Never owned or played 1 min of prior X-games - just interested observer waiting to see if I'd like to buy this game (based on similar genre games I play recommending this one).

I HAVE watched ~10 hours total of streamers though - enough to know that for SOME people the game must be working reasonably well. This doesn't mean that for SOME people it is not, however.

The distinction, which OP fails to get and why maybe he's called a troll isn't because he has issues and are real and frustrating to him, but that he goes over the red line so to speak and flatly denies ANYONE else could possibly be having a good time and de facto suggests those other users claiming reasonably good experience are lying, fanboys, etc.

Therefore, the real issue is HOW MANY people are on what point of the bell curve? If OP is an outlier, but on the usual bell curve progression of really bad on far left, really good on far right, and mostly ok but some issues in the middle --->

a) if OP is on the far right, then the game is really in trouble because this means his issues are the norm, and other posters saying they are reasonably ok are the exception

b) if OP is on the far left, then bad as his issues are, he is just that, an exceptional outlier that should not be confused with the generally ok experience for the majority / avg player

c) if OP is in the middle, again the game is in trouble and have a chance to save themselves via quick fixes and fast progress making those fixes, but it would be the example of ship sinking and taking on water fast - fix fast, or die.

Based on the little I've seen, I truly can't be 100% sure of what state, A, B, or C the game is in. But I do reasonably believe it isn't scenario A because if it was that common for players to have OP's level of issues, then at least one of the streamers I've seen would have seen it (viewed to date 5 different streamers, 2 with reputation I personally know over the years with Elite Dangerous = obsidianant and d2ea)

Unless someone wants to accuse them without proof of somehow editing livestreams to only show favorable results, the hours of coverage I've watched of obsidianant and d2ea live streaming their initial play seems to suggest game is somewhere better than scenario C but not quite at scenario B. Meaning people with really significant issues aren't so rare a unicorn it can be called 'exceptional' outliers but not as bad to say the ship is sinking.

My unbiased view seems to be that game is ship taking on some water, but cruising otherwise fine. Guests can't go to certain parts of the ship where water is leaking in, but otherwise can use most dining, rec, etc facilities fine. If you really, really like to work out and want the gym however, since that is one of the wet and leaky rooms, then you'd dislike the cruise experience a lot more than someone who only cares about the buffet line which is working perfectly.

That about sums up my .02 cents - and yes, while I've zero experience or $$ spent on prior X games, I have done some homework and therefore was cautious about buying this game too early. I read their last release was a bad stain on their reputation so waiting to see how this launch goes. Like many, I'm waiting few more days to few more weeks, maybe months, - depends what communities like this settle down to regarding actual state of game.

TL-DR : OP isn't a troll because he has game issues nor that what he says isn't really happening to him - which would suck indeed. He's a troll because he's going so far over the edge he's lashing out at anyone daring to suggest that they haven't seen what he has and are reasonably having good performance/time with the game. It's not impossibly that both sides are right -----> the real issue is which is the more common experience, which is why ppl like me are waiting before buying.

[Cabrelbeuk]

Feel like watching a Rebirth thread.

Just seeing the 73% happiness on steam comfort me that this is isolated thingy, and yeah OP is angryly trolling the game coz of frustration.

Doesn't mean that his problems are not real tho.

So his problems are real and frustrating, but he's a troll? Why's it hard to understand that it's okay if someone else isn't as fortunate as you when it comes to experiencing bugs? Do you not think they should be fixed just because you don't experience them?

I understand wanting to support a company, but don't put someone else down because they're having a miserable time and want to speak up about it.

Yeah is not that hard to understand that this is 2 differents things.

Yes the problem is real.
Yes the guy is obviously trying to trigger white knights of the forum.

That's how you troll, and that's might make my point clearer to you.
Nothing to do with putting down anyone.

[CBJ]

Baiting, trolling, calling people names like "troll" and "fanboy", may all be acceptable on other forums, but they are not acceptable here. Discuss the subject in hand, not each other, or don't post.

[shinzah]

I'm really enjoying X4...

I have had no issues with the menu except for one where selling ships seems a little clunky

I've only had one major bug (save broke) and that's supposedly been fixed now

I would like to see more activity in the ship yards and more effort on the part of the xenon who are sleeping at the moment, but I'm sure these things will be patched in soon-ish. And I find myself looking forward to the DLC expansions and finding out where all the inactive jump gates lead.

It's nice with my humble fleet of mining ships to sit back and watch them create space bux. I'm having a blast.

I haven't even done the storyline yet. I'm not sure if 30+ hours into the game I can activate that quest line....

Also the game looks really impressive for me. The zones all have a particular feel and the only issue I've encountered is that the planet images sometimes don't load instantly with the sector which is probably due to installing the game on a 7200rpm laptop drive and not an SSD.

Anyway. I don't think I'm really a fanboy. Just somebody who enjoys this, and all of the previous X games, including rebirth (after many fixes).