Game is a basically unplayable buggy mess

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Game is a basically unplayable buggy mess

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Graphical errors abound including missing textures and geometry, horrible low resolution distant fog and cloud billoards, apparent LOD loading errors and lack of lighting. Game looks and runs horribly (somehow managed to both look and run worse than X3).

Text randomly disappears from menu items.

Tutorials are terrible, buggy and confusing.

Voice acting and writing still hasn't progressed at all in this series and remains extremely cheap and amateurish.

Graphical options which make no sense (can't turn off Vsync, can only use FXAA because "hardware doesn't support",this is the only game where I have come across this)

General GUI layout and UX design still horrendous, unintuitive and bizzare. Very little progression since the previous games (which were also weird and confusing for their time)

Mission text unclear, confusing and missions frequently bugged.

Finally to top it all off these forums are the only real place where one can find help and information on the game and they are incredibly slow and frequently time out.
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Definitely are bugs, however, I find it ridiculous of you to say the graphics are worse than X3. Seriously, what are you looking at? The graphics are night and day compared to X3. I understand your angry about the bugs, but let's not make ridiculous statements. I don't know what graphic settings you have on but I have on high and it runs great and looks great. X3 can't even come close to comparing.
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game is perfectly playable. it just requires you to activate your brain. i realize that's opposite of what most modern games do, but yeah...
try.
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Well two different experiences, have played for around 6 hrs,, there are some issues/bugs but I have only had one bad one .. stuck half in half out of lift,, had to restart. To stand in a landing bay listening and watching the ships come and go, travelled on the back of a Mammoth, done a space walk, repaired, scavenged, salvaged, slaughtered , , sorry mate you must be playing a different game for me it is running beautifully
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People may run into bugs depending on pc, etc. This is understandable, I have run into a few bugs like the warp bug and some others. What I can't understand though, is how anyone could think the graphics aren't better than previous X games. They clearly are . Just the detail with the ships, stations, everything is far superior
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vukica wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 19:04 game is perfectly playable. it just requires you to activate your brain. i realize that's opposite of what most modern games do, but yeah...
try.
By saying its perfectly playable means you have yet to use your own advice, come back when you do.
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BlackRain wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 19:24 People may run into bugs depending on pc, etc. This is understandable, I have run into a few bugs like the warp bug and some others. What I can't understand though, is how anyone could think the graphics aren't better than previous X games. They clearly are . Just the detail with the ships, stations, everything is far superior
If he has his graphics on low and still getting horrible performance what he said makes perfect sense.
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Post by ArcherSam »

Yeah, the graphical bugs are irritating. Game is still very playable, it just (for me at least) requires I exit it and start it again every 20-30 minutes. Other than the graphical bugs, and the occasional random teleport, game seems fine.
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The game is running smoothly on my under sysreq phenum2x4-955 8gb 1050ti 30fps.

He must be from another planet... Maybe he already found borons and kingdoms end? ;)

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Look at YouTube if you did know it yet.
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:evil:
I agree.. Paid 90 dollars CAD on GOG. I spent about 4 hours just trying to figure out the game. Frankly I regret purchasing it.
Clipping issues galore wanna dock on a ship with an easy transport quest.. you will just fly through the ship. Docking is just broken due to mass amount of clipping issues.

Don't try using Travel mode and get up from the chair cause you will fall through your ship.

The fun times when you Warp out of no where to some random part of the map without an explanation how.

Horrible key mapping, click one to many times it unbinds something, No undo or conflict resolutions.

Then half the time when I get on space stations my character does a moon walk for some reason. Just starts gliding backwards, only fix is to exit the game.

Hand on stick is irritating just trying to fly and interact is bad.
Constant drifting when switching between mouse and joystick.

Messy UI and the tutorials that go with it.. Tutorials progress while trying to figure out where the hell everything is. Who wrote these tutorials?

Voice acting.. I think having Grunt and fart sounds would be better then the voice acting.

What the hell is up with the random sprinting NPC on bases?
Oh what the hell is up with the models? They look like they have bone cancer or they bread with apes cause they look comically bad.

This game is bad and egosoft you should feel bad for releasing such an unfinished product for this amount of money.

PS..

Why is this FORUM so slow to respond navigation?

PSS.

There is nothing but a bunch of Fan Boy circle jerking here.. I am not sure about some of the posts on these forums, cause surely they are not playing the same game as I am.
Rename X4:Foundations to X4:Broken and Unplayable.
Gone get a refund and wait a year for the game to be patched and be for about 25 bucks.
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graphics are great here no problems what so ever not seem any bugs yet just wish the wiki thing in game was better
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Aurek wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 18:47 Graphical errors abound including missing textures and geometry, horrible low resolution distant fog and cloud billoards, apparent LOD loading errors and lack of lighting. Game looks and runs horribly (somehow managed to both look and run worse than X3).
Dont think we are playing the same game .. and all I could suggest is update drivers / roll back drives to a few versons back
Aurek wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 18:47 Text randomly disappears from menu items.
nothing like that yet
Aurek wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 18:47 Tutorials are terrible, buggy and confusing.
Totally agree, the tutorials stop progressing randomly.. I skipped most
Aurek wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 18:47
Voice acting and writing still hasn't progressed at all in this series and remains extremely cheap and amateurish.
that's not a bug and does not make the game unplayable, yet I agree that could be improved, however we are not in the xverse to hear npcs and converse with them. I would agree if you said the textures seem older than what we had in X3 I feel that the textures are dull/plastic/fake/not realistic
Aurek wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 18:47 Graphical options which make no sense (can't turn off Vsync, can only use FXAA because "hardware doesn't support",this is the only game where I have come across this)
true and Im on a 1080ti donno whats the hardware does not support thing is on about, but the first option in the vsync menu is the one to turn off vsync. I know the label does not give you that idea
Aurek wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 18:47 General GUI layout and UX design still horrendous, unintuitive and bizzare. Very little progression since the previous games (which were also weird and confusing for their time)
Agree, it was bad once.. seems to have got worse, but this is not buggy nor makes it unplayable
Aurek wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 18:47 Mission text unclear, confusing and missions frequently bugged.
Finally to top it all off these forums are the only real place where one can find help and information on the game and they are incredibly slow and frequently time out.
If you said encyclopedia id agree, missions, just check the briefing in the mission log

Overall your title is blowing stuff out of proportion for those that quickly pop in to the forum. Dont forget this is day 2ish, updates will come and Iv never played a game that did not have issues/upsets on release
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Perahoky wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 19:44 The game is running smoothly on my under sysreq phenum2x4-955 8gb 1050ti 30fps.

He must be from another planet... Maybe he already found borons and kingdoms end? ;)

Dmm dadada dmmm dadada dmmmmm dadada dmmmmm dadada dmm dadada dmmm dadada dmmm dadada dmmmmmmm
I love this Soundtrack of Kingdoms end .
Look at YouTube if you did know it yet.
OP was wrong everyone it works for perahoky on his specific system, he just confirmed it was all a lie nothing to see here.
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Wrench69 wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 19:50 :evil:
I agree.. Paid 90 dollars CAD on GOG. I spent about 4 hours just trying to figure out the game. Frankly I regret purchasing it.
Clipping issues galore wanna dock on a ship with an easy transport quest.. you will just fly through the ship. Docking is just broken due to mass amount of clipping issues.

Don't try using Travel mode and get up from the chair cause you will fall through your ship.

The fun times when you Warp out of no where to some random part of the map without an explanation how.

Horrible key mapping, click one to many times it unbinds something, No undo or conflict resolutions.

Then half the time when I get on space stations my character does a moon walk for some reason. Just starts gliding backwards, only fix is to exit the game.

Hand on stick is irritating just trying to fly and interact is bad.
Constant drifting when switching between mouse and joystick.

Messy UI and the tutorials that go with it.. Tutorials progress while trying to figure out where the hell everything is. Who wrote these tutorials?

Voice acting.. I think having Grunt and fart sounds would be better then the voice acting.

What the hell is up with the random sprinting NPC on bases?
Oh what the hell is up with the models? They look like they have bone cancer or they bread with apes cause they look comically bad.

This game is bad and egosoft you should feel bad for releasing such an unfinished product for this amount of money.

PS..

Why is this FORUM so slow to respond navigation?

PSS.

There is nothing but a bunch of Fan Boy circle jerking here.. I am not sure about some of the posts on these forums, cause surely they are not playing the same game as I am.
Rename X4:Foundations to X4:Broken and Unplayable.
Gone get a refund and wait a year for the game to be patched and be for about 25 bucks.
Ohh boy please get your refound and please dont come back, this type of games are not for lazy people that espects that the game should teach you everything, where is the point if you can do everything from day one, go and play another game.

For me this game is running smoth and I have now almost 15 hours without any crash, I figured out all the mechanics, and even the tutorials are nice, I do prefer that they will not give me all the info at first, you need to think also, this game is about thinking and exploring, thats the real meaning of the X games.

Salud.
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Well i remember back with x-Rebirth. That was horrid. This one is soooo much better. Have played since this morning and ok have had a few bugs and had to reload a few times but i love it. Such a nice game. I had hoped for something simpler but i am getting into it slowly. Now granted if i hadnt explored so much of the features i would prob have myself a new ship by now but i find my self in situation with details i couldnt have dreamt of. Playable Definately, a few bugs definately, problem with bugs, not at all! Would still like to capture those unmanned ships here and there but im sure a patch will come that will make me able to do just that. For now i am still trying to figure out the trade mechanics and the so. Thumbs up from here!
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Sounds like OP is trying to play it on a potato. My experience has been spectacular so far. Game is gorgeous. Very few bugs too, especially when compared to rebirth. Couldn't be happier with my purchase.
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Post by Cabrelbeuk »

Feel like watching a Rebirth thread.

Just seeing the 73% happiness on steam comfort me that this is isolated thingy, and yeah OP is angryly trolling the game coz of frustration.

Doesn't mean that his problems are not real tho.
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ncmohr wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 20:44 Well i remember back with x-Rebirth. That was horrid. This one is soooo much better. Have played since this morning and ok have had a few bugs and had to reload a few times but i love it. Such a nice game. I had hoped for something simpler but i am getting into it slowly. Now granted if i hadnt explored so much of the features i would prob have myself a new ship by now but i find my self in situation with details i couldnt have dreamt of. Playable Definately, a few bugs definately, problem with bugs, not at all! Would still like to capture those unmanned ships here and there but im sure a patch will come that will make me able to do just that. For now i am still trying to figure out the trade mechanics and the so. Thumbs up from here!
You can capture unmanned ships, I did. Got myself a cerberus, what is the problem?
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Aurek wrote: Sat, 1. Dec 18, 18:47 Graphical errors abound including missing textures and geometry, horrible low resolution distant fog and cloud billoards, apparent LOD loading errors and lack of lighting. Game looks and runs horribly (somehow managed to both look and run worse than X3).

Text randomly disappears from menu items.

Tutorials are terrible, buggy and confusing.

Voice acting and writing still hasn't progressed at all in this series and remains extremely cheap and amateurish.

Graphical options which make no sense (can't turn off Vsync, can only use FXAA because "hardware doesn't support",this is the only game where I have come across this)

General GUI layout and UX design still horrendous, unintuitive and bizzare. Very little progression since the previous games (which were also weird and confusing for their time)

Mission text unclear, confusing and missions frequently bugged.

Finally to top it all off these forums are the only real place where one can find help and information on the game and they are incredibly slow and frequently time out.
Really my experience 10+hours now has been mostly good. Agreed tutorials are terrible (but at least there are tutorials now). Voice acting is much better in my experience. I can enable any option except for MSAA16 on 4k (and for good reason that would melt my GTX). The GUI has improved considerably! Missions from what I've seen are hit or miss.

@Finding info: Not true! There is a Reddit as well as a discord where I have been helped and helped out on many occasions.
Save game editor XR and CAT/DAT Extractor
Keep in mind that it's still a work in progress although it's taking shape nicely.

If anyone is interested in a new save game editor for X4 and would like to contribute to the creation of one let me know. I do not have sufficient time to create it alone, but if there are enough people who want it and want to contribute we might be able to set something up.
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Guess to each their own.

I've run into very few "bugs" and had no need to use the tutorial b/c 1.) the map is intuitive, and 2.) experimented. 3.) it's an X game at its core, so concepts are similar.

If you're running into that many game breaking bugs, when it seems that most people are not, it might be on your systems end.
I really don't understand the Graphical Options @Aurek that you posted, and not post your system specs so people could actually try to help troubleshoot it.

@Wrench69. IDK what clipping issues you're having that's leading to docking being broken? if you line things up right, you won't clip through the platform and even if you do it doesn't break anything, it'll bounce your ship back up in the right place.
I've not had the travel mode bug yet but will test again when I get home.
Care to elaborate on the warp out of nowhere? Don't understand this one, unless you're talking about anoms that are around (and that's their function)
Key mapping? how is that not a self inflicted issue on unbinding? it's setup literally like any other game where you can rebind keys.
Voice acting is fine? improved over rebirth.

also on your PSS. we definitely arent playing the same game it seems. it's far from "broken" and "unplayable".
get your refund and I hope you can come back to enjoy it later.

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