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softweir wrote:
BarrenEarth wrote:Speak for yourself! I'd be seriously worried about my mental health if I started wasting emotional energy on the possible fate of just *ONE* game.

It's just a game. A very promising game from a great company - but it's just a game. I will be disappointed if it doesn't come out, and very surprised, and sorry for the developers: but that's as far as it goes.
Why did you attribute a quote to me that I did not say?

And I agree with LTerSlash... If it is released, 2014 at the earliest.
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The making of videos are a good call, they show simple stuff, and give no significant info on the game.. but they show interaction.. almost like the whirling wheel when waiting for something to complete in the windows OS.
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I also hope that the game will be released before June. would love to play it in the summer.
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Voyadjyer wrote:I also hope that the game will be released before June. would love to play it in the summer.
The game looks great, but very much doubt it will be anywhere near a June release.

Not even past the code freeze point or in Beta yet. Still Alpha-ish build or such.

Laaaaate 2013 :oops:
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Honestly, I figure 2014 is more likely.
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They might surprise us just like this videos :D
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in November 2012, they argued that in 2012 the output of the game is possible! that the transfer in 2013 is not planned. Now the end of March have passed 4 months! impossible to believe that then, in November, they did not know that they do not have time to release the game! they purposely mislead us giving unrealistic release date. I really believed in them. if they say that they will release the game in 2012 although until the end the year stayed a month. means they are release it! they know what they say. and now it took another four months but about the end not even heard.

I can understand some unexpected errors that you do not have time to fix by end December and moved to release next year, but now perfectly clear that the game is far from the exit, and is not even in beta. could move the release date for 2013 in advance and did not feed anyone with empty promises to release the game in 2012 if you knew it was impossible.
I just insulting! I was waiting for the game for the new year, I thought release it on a holiday, then at the beginning of spring. Now I only hope that the game will be released before the summer. but probably and this is not destined to be realized
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Voyadjyer wrote:in November 2012, they argued that in 2012 the output of the game is possible! that the transfer in 2013 is not planned. Now the end of March have passed 4 months! impossible to believe that then, in November, they did not know that they do not have time to release the game! they purposely mislead us giving unrealistic release date. I really believed in them. if they say that they will release the game in 2012 although until the end the year stayed a month. means they are release it! they know what they say. and now it took another four months but about the end not even heard.

I can understand some unexpected errors that you do not have time to fix the end of December and moved to release next year, but now perfectly clear that the game is far from the exit, and is not even in beta. could move the release date for 2013 in advance and did not feed anyone with empty promises to release the game in 2012 if you knew it was impossible
Yeah, that's the thing that got me also. This site said 2012 expected release date, and fair enough it was only "expected" but that implies you know... Probably will be... Likely too... Aiming for... And Deepsilvers site said 2012 also. The all around impression was a late 2012 release date.

Fast forward to nearly the end of March, 2013 and there's not any sign of a release date. The game's not even in Beta, yet alone the marketing beginning!

I think realistically we're talking very late 2013 release date. Q4. And we're going to be on this forums, waiting a long, long time.
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BarrenEarth wrote:Feel free to delete my account to silence me, if that is how you think Egosoft should treat a verified customer.
Annoying as you are, you're not going to be banned just for that. Egosoft have always allowed criticism of their games (good and bad) and criticism of themselves (good and bad) as long as forum rules are followed.

Really, why exactly is it so upsetting that a game you have never seen and have no investment in (other than perhaps emotional, and if so, that's your problem, not Egosoft's) is late to be released? Egosoft are working as hard as they can to release it as soon as they can - that's a no-brainer, because they want some money for the game, and there's no reason to delay the game any more than necessary to finish it. Given that, why treat it as a personal insult that Egosoft are late?

This is a game. It's not the end of the world even if it never gets released, although if that happened, be sure that it would hurt Egosoft and their employees far more than it could ever possibly hurt you. Because it's a game, designed for your enjoyment and relaxation, surely you can see how silly it is raising your blood pressure by ranting about not having it. Other forms of entertainment exist. Chill out with some of those while you're waiting. Don't obsess over a single game being late, where there is absolutely nothing you can do about it anyway. Believe me, you'll be happier, and so would we. :wink:
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BarrenEarth wrote:
Feel free to delete my account to silence me, if that is how you think Egosoft should treat a verified customer.

What makes you think that you are so important ? i for one dont care if you buy this game or not, i am another verified customer but i dont make constant posts asking for more info and a release date and if i did i would make myself sound like a self obsessed child that wants moe sweeties and cries when none are forthcoming and then feels sorry for itself, just be patient, you are no more important than any other verified customer here and i dont think Egosoft are going to halt progress on this game to come on here to try to calm you.
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Nikola515 wrote:They might surprise us just like this videos :D
If the game is not beta yet well, them Q4 2013 at best, i dont why so many sound seem suprised about, they always target Q4 for X releases.

What i do not know why 2012 was even mentioned earlier... and that taking 2011 was a complete misinformation.
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All this talk of "Its not even in beta yet" stuff. How do you know? the word Beta has become synonymous with Demo of late and its really frustrating.

For 30 years internal testing has been the key to ironing out bugs and applying late fixes such as finalised art and graphics and only in the last 3? 4? years has an open beta been available to the mass public. And don't get me started on this whole "Buy now and get into the beta!!" (Read, help them by being a beta tester and PAYING THEM for it)

The lack of developer released information is making people crazy.
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suggest Egosoft make possible the pre-order the game with early access to the beta version of the game. Fans of the game can get your game faster, and help developers in troubleshooting and help perfect game
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ive always held the position that its pointless having open beta's for non multiplayer games, devnet members testing is fine but not an open beta. open beta's are useful for making sure a games online capabilities are up to scratch before release but single player games just need a dedicated group of testers.

edit - nothing against pre-orders though!
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Voyadjyer wrote:suggest Egosoft make possible the pre-order the game with early access to the beta version of the game. Fans of the game can get your game faster, and help developers in troubleshooting and help perfect game
or if you really want to help with the game, you could just sign up to be a beta tester
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BarrenEarth wrote:Feel free to delete my account to silence me, if that is how you think Egosoft should treat a verified customer.
Why would we do that?
If you enjoy dramatically portraying yourself as the victim of Deepsilver's information policy - that's not against the forum rules.

Blaming Egosoft for that is merely silly. Talk to the publisher.
Being silly does not violate the forum rules, either.

Cycrow wrote:or if you really want to help with the game, you could just sign up to be a beta tester
That would make sense and making sense is waaaaay off topic for this thread. =)
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kaseworks wrote:All this talk of "Its not even in beta yet" stuff. How do you know? the word Beta has become synonymous with Demo of late and its really frustrating.

For 30 years internal testing has been the key to ironing out bugs and applying late fixes such as finalised art and graphics and only in the last 3? 4? years has an open beta been available to the mass public. And don't get me started on this whole "Buy now and get into the beta!!" (Read, help them by being a beta tester and PAYING THEM for it)

The lack of developer released information is making people crazy.
Because a Dev said on here four pages back that they have not yet got to "code-freeze" which is a step to get something from pre-alpha to pre-beta... so we are not even to a true Alpha testing yet... that is why we all think that.

Internal testing is fine for Alpha builds, but in Beta builds you really do want an open or closed external Beta test before final release. There are just some things you don't catch when you have been staring at the same code for 5 years.
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Gazz wrote:
BarrenEarth wrote:Feel free to delete my account to silence me, if that is how you think Egosoft should treat a verified customer.
Why would we do that?
If you enjoy dramatically portraying yourself as the victim of Deepsilver's information policy - that's not against the forum rules.

Blaming Egosoft for that is merely silly. Talk to the publisher.
Being silly does not violate the forum rules, either.

Cycrow wrote:or if you really want to help with the game, you could just sign up to be a beta tester
That would make sense and making sense is waaaaay off topic for this thread. =)
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Maybe you're thinking of "feature freeze" where no completely new features are going to be added.
Freezing the code and then going through an alpha/beta test would be silly because fixing the bugs in code and assets is the whole point. =)

BarrenEarth wrote:No no no, not a victim... just giving you the chance, so later on when I get even more annoying I can say "well ya had your chance ;) "
You're not nearly enough gangsta to be banned just for that. =P
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I understand the need for secrecy in software design. I am amazed how fast a popular game is copied and released by game companies like Zynga.

I have even seen 2 games that were imitators release before the real release to try to steal their marketing and really messed one game launch up as a result.

I am involved in 3 kick starters and am completely amazed at the amount of designing and scrapping that goes into a game. I worry for the kick starters that someone may do this to them because they have to be very public with everything they create.

I am also glad to see egosoft really taking their time. I was there for the X3 launch and remember how buggy it was. They had it running smoothly in 3 months but they should have held it for those 3 months.

I do like the big name dev's because they marvel at the advantage having 40 thousand pre-alpha testers lets them accomplish. One was commenting on how long a feature might take to implement, tweak, fix, drop, retry something else, fix that, drop it, try another angle taking weeks of dev time.

Now he just drops the concept into the backer forums and a 40k person committee breaks it down, irons it out, puts it back together and gives him a working concept. It's become so popular that all his employees are doing it to save lots of wasted time. Even artists are dropping sketches in so the unit function can be gathered at a glance while still maintaining artistic theme.

While I am not sure of how kick starter will be in a few years, I hope every big name dev takes a shot at using it. I think they will learn something important from the experience.
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