X-Tended -Terran Conflict V2.2 Released. [06/09/2013] (X3:AP prototype available)

surferx · Post by **surferx** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 17:14

I think XTC will end up being more of an advance over X3:TC than XTM was over reunion. I realize that's saying a lot (xtm was an awesome upgrade) but the new (expanding) universe, and in game settings, this mod is a huge improvement over TC.
[edit] thanks again for the hard work

KRM398 · Post by **KRM398** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 17:28

OMG...people work for years..in their own spare time...hundreds and thousands of hours for FREEEEEE...and all I see is: "I want this..give me that..your too mean"..BS. It's about time some guys on here either try doing all this work and see how hard it is or just plain go away. The team here has done a huge thing....for FREE...so don't ask them for more and better stuff until you try it to see how hard doing this kind of thing really is.

I've bought games for 39.99 that had bugs just as bad as this, and yes, I helped a little on the mod myself, so I have a right to get upset when people who did nothing jump on here complaining and putting down the guys who are STILL..working on the mod, trying to please everyone. Be thankful you have a mod,Ego isn't in any hurry to give you something new, so thank the guys that have done so much, and are still working to make it better, or just go away.

surferx · Post by **surferx** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 17:42

KRM398 wrote:OMG...people work for years..in their own spare time...hundreds and thousands of hours for FREEEEEE...and all I see is: "I want this..give me that..your too mean"..BS. It's about time some guys on here either try doing all this work and see how hard it is or just plain go away. The team here has done a huge thing....for FREE...so don't ask them for more and better stuff until you try it to see how hard doing this kind of thing really is.

I've bought games for 39.99 that had bugs just as bad as this, and yes, I helped a little on the mod myself, so I have a right to get upset when people who did nothing jump on here complaining and putting down the guys who are STILL..working on the mod, trying to please everyone. Be thankful you have a mod,Ego isn't in any hurry to give you something new, so thank the guys that have done so much, and are still working to make it better, or just go away.

I remember how bugged reunion was when it first came out...and this mod was even designated a wip till 2.0 is ready. IF I had paid something for this I would have the right to complain, but I'm having fun with this. No problems. Just thanks.

EmperorJon · Post by **EmperorJon** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 17:48

Yeah same. Though I have fallen into a bit of a pit trap...

Expansion doesn't seem to be happening even if the game says it is, I think it's just a bit early.

I've got a HQ and some Demeters here I need to use, hurry up! I can't place the HQ because it might end up somewhere useless, and I can't buy Mk3 trade from the Teladi because I bought 2 Demeters instead of one...

So I'm sending my Pegasus round to explore the universe as it is at the moment. Uncovered all Paranid and Teladi sectors, off to visit the Terran and Aldrin ones, then Argon and Boron, then Split...

I love the way the map is focused around Aldrin, with all the races spreading outwards, then pirate and unknown space on the fringes.

lordmuck · Post by **lordmuck** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 17:50

I think the major part of the mod is the expanding universe, AI seems to have more "jobs", yes we all miss certain missions and a "direction".
(yes many other features and ideas are in XTM i aint gonna write them all)
When i say direction most peeps think plot. I say no its player imagination, yes some more starts would be nice 2-3 per race or a trader start easy / med /hard and fighter starts easy/med/hard

(im more of a combat person)

yes yes there are bug's and sods that need revision but THIS IS A FREE mod A TOTAL OVERHAUL and the modders HAVE A LIFE.

So if you want xyz in XTM perhaps posting a request for it and som1 capable may do it (if he/she is playing XTM).

I have noticed problems on a few ships with docking bays also, so unless i skipped it some place on what can dock with what in the manual please post.

question 1:
.....also still need a decent tactic/strategy against 4 M8's spamming missiles .
end of question

I know this is a work in progress and I hope others think of that before posting or take into consideration on how they word there posts as if I was one of the modders id already told a few to f'off .. but thats me being anti-sociable

Question 2: is there any kinda war between race's ? argon takes a sector from some1?? and so on..

be nice to get contracted into helping clean a sector for a favored race

end of question

worried about complex's and so on for the economy as a few mentioned places getting really stocked up thus not buying so

question3:
whats a good complex to do here AND complex's for player owned fleets? AND complex needed for ship yards?????????
end

but really guys give the modders a break and I hope most of you know how long this was in the works ??? 3~yrs roughly, these guys have a life and we are not paying them !!!! so be thankful as they keep TC alive for us

Nova Scotia · Post by **Nova Scotia** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 17:59

Want to try a retail game with BUGS, try Civ 5

they had to patch the first patch with a second patch and it is still flawed

lordmuck · Post by **lordmuck** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 18:01

Nova Scotia wrote:Want to try a retail game with BUGS, try Civ 5 they had to patch the first patch with a second patch and it is still flawed

true story!! got the t-shirt too

Trickmov · Post by **Trickmov** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 18:07

lordmuck wrote:I think the major part of the mod is the expanding universe, AI seems to have more "jobs", yes we all miss certain missions and a "direction".
(yes many other features and ideas are in XTM i aint gonna write them all)
When i say direction most peeps think plot.

Yes, agreed, I have also this feeling when playing myself... but tbh you can't imagine how much work this is.
The TC modding scene is generally missing more capable MD-scripters, thus the few available scripters are seriously overworked (not only in XTC).
On the other side looking into plots of the complete X-series, they are over/done/completed very fast.
Honestly, how much time did it take me to complete all TC-plots? I think not more than a few (less then 10) hours. Considering the work necessary for it, it's not really in a relation.

I can only say something to the Leviathan-plot (which is in XTC 1.0, but buggy) - one MD-scripter worked several months on this thing and how much time might it take for a player to complete it? - regarding the endless playtime in X-games that's not really worth a mention.

I believe the team intended originally to add plot(s), but due to real life and lack of additional MD-scripters this seemed not to work. Hopefully they will be able to complete this until a 2.0-release, but even if they don't I can't complain, as it is only a minor part of the XTC-playtime, imo.

I could better live with more smaller missions, instead of plots... they are useful over a much longer playtime

(and much easier to develop)

VincentTH · Post by **VincentTH** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 18:10

@lordmuck

Q1: Tactics against M8 spam:
Depending on your ship, but overall, chaff launcher.

Q3: What to build
Currently - until the XTC team fix it - Weapon/Shield/Missile complex works great for me. Just be careful that you can only sell stuffs that the local Equipment dock stocks.

As for supplying your SY/HQ, there is a fix list of items:

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Nvidium (only for Khaak like in vanilla)
Computer, uChip, QTube, Xtal, Silicon, Ore, Rastar, Teladianium, Cloth Rimes, EC

Captain CAVEMAN!!! · Post by **Captain CAVEMAN!!!** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 18:32

Damn i wish i could buy one of them OTAS shipyards and put it in an asteroid belt it would look so cool

lso where can i find the leviathan plot? and who do i have to be friend with?

Cheers
Captain C

xavierd · Post by **xavierd** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 19:01

EmperorJon wrote:I can't place the HQ because it might end up somewhere useless

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You can repack stations into your own TL now

VincentTH · Post by **VincentTH** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 19:18

Captain CAVEMAN!!! wrote:Damn i wish i could buy one of them OTAS shipyards and put it in an asteroid belt it would look so cool

lso where can i find the leviathan plot? and who do i have to be friend with?

Cheers
Captain C

The Liviathan plot is tied to the Universe Expansion mechanism, so you'll have to be patient, (or you can speed up the expansion in the AL-plugin menu). Be warned that you will be bored after that

Technojerk36 · Post by **Technojerk36** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 19:25

So I was flying around in my Angel from the Boron start when I came across this.

I then cross-checked with my own ship.

At first I was like

But now I'm like

Every sector I visit, I get that GNS article

Also, I was forced to bribe a Boron police officer.

EmperorJon · Post by **EmperorJon** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 19:28

Wow, I can repack it? I thought I read about repacking somewhere but couldn't remember or find it! Deploy the HQ! Set my traders to use it as a depot, and uproot when we expand!

Tharaphita · Post by **Tharaphita** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 19:46

Can anyone give a advice how to mod repair laser back? After getting 10%of hull damage per mission trough the shields somehow and repairing it costs same as brand new ship is way too off for me =(

Darkwolf7 · Post by **Darkwolf7** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 19:50

i know some may disagree with me but the split start is fine it is qwite anoying but with some luck u can find the equipment floting in space to give you that boost to get bigger ships look for damaged ships to buy and sell them at a shipyard its all pretty easy in a split dragon with 22 mil now i don't have more the a few hours to play each day but it is a very good start i steped up each time selling my old ship to buy the new one

Trickmov · Post by **Trickmov** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 19:51

Technojerk36 wrote:So I was flying around in my Angel from the Boron start when I came across this.

I then cross-checked with my own ship.

At first I was like

But now I'm like

Every sector I visit, I get that GNS article

Also, I was forced to bribe a Boron police officer.

That's because the event-system is non-player-centric. Events happen and it doesn't matter if the player acts or not.
The Angel is indeed "special"... as it's a TP+ (or Yacht)

The corrupt policemen suck - but thats the intention

There are other events, which give money instead of taking it (like lottery or the casino)

Technojerk36 · Post by **Technojerk36** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 19:52

Tharaphita wrote:Can anyone give a advice how to mod repair laser back? After getting 10%of hull damage per mission trough the shields somehow and repairing it costs same as brand new ship is way too off for me =(

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=294102

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@Trickmov

lol I'll probably end up spending more on lottery tickets than I will get back on winnings XD

SIMON POPPLEWELL · Post by **SIMON POPPLEWELL** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 20:08

@lordmuck

question 1:
.....also still need a decent tactic/strategy against 4 M8's spamming missiles .
end of question

Have you tried

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Chaff launcher from Split/Teladi

Coupled with

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ECM from Argon/Boron

You shouldn't have any problems with M8s.

dougeye · Post by **dougeye** » Tue, 4. Jan 11, 20:13

so im flying around sanguine skys on my way to dawn break to hunt down a criminal in my shamshire. it was an average mission to take out a guy in a kea.

jump through south gate and.......

WTF!!!!!! Paranid invasion fleet!!!!! headed by a mighty olympus! and supported by a full compliment of fighters and several m1's m2's and m6/7s!!!

unexpected but absolutly loving it!!

:D:D:D:D

no seta time for me till that lot gets cleared up. im guessing a terran fleet should respond?

:D:D:D:D