X-Tended - Terran Conflict (XTC) (Update: - Manual available! - 12/10/10)

KRM398 · Post by **KRM398** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 01:11

But Gizmo...if you buy them from the shipyard. or manufacture them in the HQ there's a shortcut to do them all at once...if it's working..lol. I've never done that because I'm too heroic and harsh, I capture all my ships, even my upgrades.(think too cheap)..hehehe.

Money doesn't mean anything to me in my game, if I get all the way to a M1-2...then my games over and I start again...after all..what real chance does a single mercenary have to actually live to do that?

Mightysword · Post by **Mightysword** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 02:52

KRM398 wrote: Money doesn't mean anything to me in my game, if I get all the way to a M1-2...then my games over and I start again...after all..what real chance does a single mercenary have to actually live to do that?

Yeah, I wonder if XTM (or if any mod ever) gonna address that issue. For me the middle of the game is the most fun part of the game. Once I buy and kit out a M1/2 however, I suddenly lose almost any will to continue. Maybe I use it once a while to clear a Xenon/Khaak sector when I'm "extremely" bored but that's about it. I would be nice if there are missions set up that require you must utilize capital ships (kinda like some of the end game add on missions).

Now you may say "so just stick with the fighters". It's kinda a dilemma though, as a player I want my game to be progressive, so M5-M4-M3-M6-M7-M1/M2, I don't want to stall at a certain level. Just wish the last bracket was a bit more exciting

costi · Post by **costi** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 03:47

I was never a fan of the M1/M2 - too slow, too expensive, and not really fun to play with.

I'd rather stick to an M7 with a fighter wing, and use my money to buy said mobile HQ.

I've played and own every X game they made and I've seen people talking about 'refueling'...but I never did or had to, I guess it was an optional mod or something, yes it would add some reality to the game, like having engineers on board to help repair the ships in space, or your HQ having to have engineers (marines) with proper training before any ships could be made or repaired. but if I started asking for all that, people would hunt me down and kill me...lol.

I was ineed referring to buying ecells for the jumpdrive.

aquemnun · Post by **aquemnun** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 10:36

Now you may say "so just stick with the fighters". It's kinda a dilemma though, as a player I want my game to be progressive, so M5-M4-M3-M6-M7-M1/M2, I don't want to stall at a certain level. Just wish the last bracket was a bit more exciting

agreed, although I guess you could just choose to fly the smaller ships in your fleet and leave the 'boring' job of flying capitals to the AI

I intend to make use of the as of now unnamed 'boron supercarrier' as a transporter and sledgehammer should my little wolfpack of M6/7's not be able to do the job.
that said fleet preferences is a little off topic, moving on...

The mod will be approx 650 meg download going on the last few builds we have done for the testers, and about 2 gig once uncompressed and installed. We also plan to have a torrent version for download on top of a direct download version to cater to people in your position MoH.

that was considerably more than expected, which can only mean considerably more goodies than expected..... I acctually have a reason to look forwards to xmas now!!!

Trickmov · Post by **Trickmov** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 11:10

aquemnun wrote:..... I acctually have a reason to look forwards to xmas now!!!

Who said xmas? No, really, the release can also be afterwards

aquemnun · Post by **aquemnun** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 11:13

I was referring to the general period around christmas time

heck if it is (as previously mentioned) released on the 31st of december at 23:59:59 It'd still be awesome. It's the whole... "you know you're going to get something really awesome theres just the tease of WHEN you're going to get it"
As long as the developers take their time and do not rush their way to release just to appease the drooling hordes I will be happy.

KRM398 · Post by **KRM398** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 13:07

Tricky..come on no teasing the animals..lol. If you guys make it for Christmas, you'll be heroes, if not...we'll like you anyways..hahaha.

KRM398 · Post by **KRM398** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 13:22

"Christmas comes but once a year...with mods around the tree...
If you wait for Modda Claus, take this tip from me...
When moders get your letters,to ask for some more joy,
You'll head their list, you won't be missed,with ships for girls and boys.

They'll drink their coffee, stroke their beards and at your name they'll peer,
It takes a little time,you know,waiting for pizza and beer.
Ohhh,when modders get your questions, asking for more and more,
You may insist,but they'll resist, explaining the new Lore.

They'll stroke their beards their eyes will close, and on the desk they drop.
It takes a lot of time you know,trying to set up shop...
OHHHH, when modders get your emails,asking for more and more,
You'll be sure they'll remember your ,
Requests with a Pink Battleship..lol.

"Merry Christmas to all and to all, a Big Fight"

oldrosestereo · Post by **oldrosestereo** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 13:30

Very good KRM. lol

MadMan983 · Post by **MadMan983** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 13:36

it brings a tear to my eye socket

Ikaruga · Post by **Ikaruga** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 14:22

Most epic X-Mas song ever !

My turn :

On the first day of X-Mas, modders gave to me :
-a brand new universe to see !

On the second day of X-Mas, modders gave to me :
-2 new .cat files
-and a brand new universe to see !

On the third day of X-Mas, modders gave to me :
-3 hundred new scripts
-2 new .cat files
-and a brand new universe to see !

On the fourth day of X-Mas, modders gave to me :
-4ty new weapons
-3 hundred new scripts
-2 new .cat files
-and a brand new universe to see !

On the fifth day of X-Mas, modders gave to me :
-5ty new holy ships
-4ty new weapons
-3 hundred new scripts
-2 new .cat files
-and a brand new universe to see !

Etc.

x3nooby · Post by **x3nooby** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 15:46

I don't know if this has been addressed by the levels of difficulty in the MOD BUT

I find the X universe extremely boring when I no longer feel threatened by the "enemy".

I don't like "I win ships" and I hope the AI can keep pace with threat of "me".

I find it boring waltzing into a sector with a massive fleet only to find a few enemy ships that go SPLAT in a few seconds.

nap_rz · Post by **nap_rz** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 16:01

x3nooby wrote:I don't know if this has been addressed by the levels of difficulty in the MOD BUT

I find the X universe extremely boring when I no longer feel threatened by the "enemy".

I don't like "I win ships" and I hope the AI can keep pace with threat of "me".

I find it boring waltzing into a sector with a massive fleet only to find a few enemy ships that go SPLAT in a few seconds.

there's no way to achieve that without killing the frame rate.... for example, I'm using IR script now and Freedom Reach has been swarmed by khaak for quite a long time now.... there are ... 600-700 khaaks there.... including a dozen carriers & destroyers there... even with my 3.6 GHz i7 I got massive slide show there....

KRM398 · Post by **KRM398** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 16:36

We all like to see perfectly realistic sights and fights, but the truth is: we are confined to the machines we use. It's true that many of us have GOOD machines, definitely not the best and brightest, those change every day, but good solid machines with shaders and HD 3D..but even at that, dozens of ships firing hundreds of shots, all of them with 'tracer' effects, will kill your frame rate. If we want more ships in battles, then I believe we need less visible weapons fire, to save the frame rates a lot, some weapons don't have much now,some of the guns are projectile types and show no effect until they hit the target, so that helps. But having major battles with the average machine or even better, is going to make the game nearly unplayable, too bad, but true.

MadMan983 · Post by **MadMan983** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 17:06

maybe a script that lowers detail on ships the more there are in sector?

DrSysAdmin · Post by **DrSysAdmin** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 17:15

x3nooby....

Don't assume that all the same tactics and tricks that worked in X3 will work in XTC.

Its not my place to say more than I am confident that you will be challenged - if you want to be.

Aragon Speed · Post by **Aragon Speed** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 17:57

Evening all,

To try and help reduce the amount of questions while we are doing the final polishing to the mod, we have decided to release the manual early so you can all see what is going to be available for use. ^^

Just to warn those who want everything to be fresh when they start the mod, reading the manual will give you some huge spoilers. So don't complain about it as you have been warned. ^^

So without further ado, here is the XTC V1.0 Manual.

http://downloads.thexuniverse.us/XTC_Re ... l_v1.0.zip

EmperorJon · Post by **EmperorJon** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 18:14

Woo! Time to get a-readin'.

EDIT: Page doesn't seem to work. Hm.

EDIT: Works!

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Did you get around to adding a plot? Plot = Where Xenon all disappeared to?

Mightysword · Post by **Mightysword** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 18:37

KRM398 wrote:If we want more ships in battles, then I believe we need less visible weapons fire, to save the frame rates a lot, some weapons don't have much now,some of the guns are projectile types and show no effect until they hit the target, so that helps.

Another problem I think is the weapon in X for the most part are pulse based instead of period base like in most other games. If most capital weapon is single burst like the Terran torpedo cannon I imagine it would be a lot less taxing.

reiks · Post by **reiks** » Fri, 10. Dec 10, 19:15

Downloading and will read while my UT are making profitzz XD

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X-Tended - Terran Conflict (XTC) (Update: - Manual available! - 12/10/10)