[TUTORIAL] How to edit the Tships file.

Topcross · Post by **Topcross** » Tue, 14. Sep 10, 01:26

I've been asked how to make a new entry in the Tships file when making a new ship. Instead of just writing the whole thing in a PM, I decided to make a complete (or as close to that I could get it) tutorial, so anyone could benefit from it.

I know that this thing is far from perfect, suggestions, corrections of any mistake (both spelling/grammar or something I just explain completely wrong) or any other kind of feedback are appreciated.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask so, I realise that sometimes I don't explain everything very well, this is unfortunatly how my mind works, the fact that English is only my 3rd language is of course not helping either.
If there is something you don't understand, I'll try my best to explain it better, or at least in a different way.

http://www.killerog.co.uk/ccount/ModFil ... s_file.pdf

Also, a 'Thank you' if this was at all helpful is appreciated.

I'd like to thank killerog for hosting this tutorial on his website.

killerog · Post by **killerog** » Tue, 14. Sep 10, 20:18

Just downloaded. Looks good. I will have a prober read later make sure there's no errors anywhere (or are far as I know

).

Do you want some where better to host it ? Easy 5 sec upload for me if you do.

Topcross · Post by **Topcross** » Tue, 14. Sep 10, 21:00

Would be awesome, also for my mod.

I didn't reread it myself yet, did a quick reread today, noticed few spelling/grammar mistakes, which I'm going to fix later today.

killerog · Post by **killerog** » Tue, 14. Sep 10, 21:04

When You have updated it, send me a pm with a link to it and ill upload it for you.

Topcross · Post by **Topcross** » Tue, 14. Sep 10, 21:07

Thanks, I will.

Topcross · Post by **Topcross** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 00:21

Updated a bit, edited typos/spelling and grammar mistakes. Added some extra tips.

Anubitus · Post by **Anubitus** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 01:27

this tutorial has helped me a lot, thanks topcross..

perhaps this is worth a link in the tutorials and resource topic..?

Topcross · Post by **Topcross** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 02:46

I've submitted it, we'll see if it gets added.

Drewgamer · Post by **Drewgamer** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 16:33

Id just like to say, I think its an excellent guide. A few things you may want to add (or maybe not)

In section 2, you state the formula for the RelVal can be found in stickies, however I couldn't find anything (I'm sorta fail at searching forums). You may want to put a link in the guide for those of us who have trouble finding the obvious

This post helped me out.

Also you mentioned notoriety. Same thing with the RelVal, it helps to have all the resources you need without having to spend too much time searching. *bing*

Lastly, Section 4, with the engine sounds/glows/effects. I found a list of sounds posted here Sadly I couldn't find anything about engine glows/effects

closest thing I could find was this mod by Killerog, so maybe talk to him?

Please don't take this the wrong way, I wasn't expecting you to know or have all the answers, just trying to enhance the experience of reading your guide (which was very helpful, by the way!)
Hektos

Topcross · Post by **Topcross** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 17:18

Thanks for the suggestions, I might add those some day.

I think however that someone that takes making ships serious, should have checked all those tutorials.

Also note that I made that thing passed midnight, so forgive me for not being in the mood anymore too add links (which I considered

)

killerog · Post by **killerog** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 18:53

@ hektos :: I have been meaning to create a tut on engine effects plus 1 or 2 other things. Just need to find the time to do so.

F.A.B. · Post by **F.A.B.** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 19:43

Hektos wrote:In section 2, you state the formula for the RelVal can be found in stickies, however I couldn't find anything (I'm sorta fail at searching forums). You may want to put a link in the guide for those of us who have trouble finding the obvious This post helped me out.

hi Topcross,

i don't know if someone ever checked on this formula(e) before, but i think its not... very accurate (no offense).

here a little something (lets call it kiss-formula) that might help everyone to adjust prices simpler and more precise

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(with relval = 0; pricemod1 = 0; pricemod2 = 0) basic price for [...] is

TL			161,740
TS			 11,116
TP			  8,000
TM			155,816
M1			171,568
M2			171,568
M3(P)		  5,192
M4(P)		  5,192
M5(P)		  5,192
M6(M)		155,816
M7(M)		161,740
M8			  5,192
GO			155,816	<- Ranger

1 point relval = 64.9238892

ie you want set the price for your m3 to 30,000,000 credits

30,000,000 - 5,192 = 29,994,808
29,994,808 / 64.9238892 = ~461,999 "lickety-split!"

new price setting for your m3: relval = 461,999; pricemod1 = 0; pricemod2 = 0

Topcross · Post by **Topcross** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 20:18

Thanks, I see how you got to this formula, its a bit complex but probably more accurate then the one in the stickies. I'll give it a go.

EDIT: Could I I include this in the tutorial?

I also included the noteriety ranks, as suggested, I'm however not going to include a list of all the sound/color effects, I'm still of the opinion that using reference for this is faster than checking a list every time.

Drewgamer · Post by **Drewgamer** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 21:22

@ F.A.B. - Well I stand, corrected i guess (wasnt really my formula, just linked to it) Anywho, that link was the only thing I could find and it seemed close enough. However, I do appreciate you pointing out a more precise formula! (and it's so simple too!)

@ Killerog - awesome, not saying your mod isn't

I just can't seem to get it to work with my current assortment of mods (for another thread though, lol)

@ topcross - Right-O! I can respect that. I don't really expect you to change your (already awesome) guide just on account of me, just figured I'd point out that tid-bit of info. Engine sound probably doesn't really need to change all that much anyway, as your choice (or lack there of) probably wouldn't make much difference in the end.

Before I ramble on too much more, thanks again for the guide
Hektos

Topcross · Post by **Topcross** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 21:56

I'm not changing on your account only

, the purpose of this guide is to help people that are having trouble with editing the Tships file the best it could possible do, so adding this information to it makes the guide better.

F.A.B. · Post by **F.A.B.** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 23:44

Topcross wrote:EDIT: Could I I include this in the tutorial?

sure! (...it's not essential, but credits would be nice then

)

Hektos wrote:However, I do appreciate you pointing out a more precise formula! (and it's so simple too!)

you're welcome.

Topcross · Post by **Topcross** » Wed, 15. Sep 10, 23:47

F.A.B. wrote: sure! (...it's not essential, but credits would be nice then )

They are essential to me, I would never use someone else's work without giving proper credit.

TrixX · Post by **TrixX** » Thu, 23. Sep 10, 04:38

This really needs a position in the Tutorials and Resources Sticky. I've been tearing my hair out over this stuff.

Finally worked out what's causing my cameras to be messed up due to it

eldyranx3 · Post by **eldyranx3** » Thu, 23. Sep 10, 05:46

Congratulations on all the great work you've been doing!

TrixX · Post by **TrixX** » Thu, 23. Sep 10, 06:25

OK I was a little overenthusiastic there, still having issues with the cameras!

But it helped a lot with knowing what to edit.

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[TUTORIAL] How to edit the Tships file.

[TUTORIAL] How to edit the Tships file.