X-Verse Fleet Fest I

Gavrushka · Post by **Gavrushka** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 17:26

Fighter spam will not work.... I just tried... I spawned 200 Harriers (with Mass drivers) against a single Odyseus and every single one died within 2 minutes and did less than 10% Hull damage...

I agree with you Master of the Blades, and also suggested an upper limit on ship numbers. IF either side tries to use a large number of ships, all that happens is the CPU cannot process all the ship scripts and some arbritary result pops out of the battle - I suggest a limit of 30 ships as a starting point?

I withdraw my suggested fleet, but I will come up with another one.

Spychotic · Post by **Spychotic** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 17:33

What was the Odysseus armed with?

And I'd swap some Solanos for another Yokohama happily (that leaves 5 Yokos and 32 Solanos, same spec)

Spike

Gavrushka · Post by **Gavrushka** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 17:36

PSG all round for the Odyseus - I spawned 3, but the other two were not needed! LOL - It was utter, utter carnage - There were so many ships too that half just stopped as CPU was overloaded -

Cpt.Jericho · Post by **Cpt.Jericho** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 18:02

Harriers against the Blue Orb of Destruction?

Why do I think of hot oil and corn?

Tenlar Scarflame · Post by **Tenlar Scarflame** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 18:02

Hrmm, so I have to homebase my fighters? Rats...

Will come up with something soon.

Gavrushka · Post by **Gavrushka** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 18:11

This is addictive... and a superb idea... Tried an M6 fleet against an Odysseus the Odysseus again won (against 11 CIG HCPs with PRGs in turrets).

I don't think it would be right to force ships to have a homebase carrier, but I do think that there should be a strict limit on the number of ships.

Cpt.Jericho · Post by **Cpt.Jericho** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 18:13

That was a suggestion and not an update to the rules. Though I'd second the idea of some limit to the maximum number of use ships due to the fact that Hardware is limitied. However, I don't think after Gavrushkas experience with the force of the PSG unleashed anyone would try a fleet like this.

It also seems that I'm not the only one trusting the Falcon Hauler, altough it's a rather mediocre M3 but for the shielding.

Deleted User · Post by **Deleted User** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 19:26

Well I'm not too sure of the prices, but heres my fleet.

1 Python PPCs in front. Ion Cannons in the side, and CFA everywhere else. Roughly 90mil

1 Tiger, PPCs up front, ISRs in the sides and Flak everywhere else. 70mil

I Panther, ISRs up front, FLAK in the sides and CIGs up top with HEPTS back and down. 50mil

20 Falcon Haulers (in Panther)with EBCs, 50 ammo, 100 Wasps, and a PRG in the turret. 20-30 mil

12 Solanos (in panther)with MDs and 50 ammo and 25 wasps. 12-20 mil

4x HCentaurs with Ion D up front and HEPTS in turrets. 50-75 wasps. about 50mil

so thats roughly (I'm being generous) 240mil I think...

Probably get worked but what the hell right!

Gavrushka · Post by **Gavrushka** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 19:35

Ashkrowe, is it just my maths or does that come to 320,000,000!!

xXxSamxXx · Post by **xXxSamxXx** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 20:26

I want to make a small programm which calculates the price of a fleet with all weapons for each ship and export it as text to copy it into the forum.

Cause of this I have a question:

If you buy a new ship from the ship yard you always have a shield in the ship.
Can you substract the price for the shield from the price of the ship?

Cpt.Jericho · Post by **Cpt.Jericho** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 20:31

@ ashkrow:

1. The Python costs naked roughly 92.000.000

2. The Tiger can't mount PPCs

3. I compared your fleet with mine (which shows some similarities

) and I'd agree, that 320.000.000 is rather the worth than 250.000.000.

Well, I guess it's back to the drawing board for you

Triaxx2 · Post by **Triaxx2** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 20:57

Well, it does make a good way to limit the ships, mostly. I mean, even under that restriction, you can bring 135 fighters to the fray. They're probably unarmed M5's, but...

So I'll take as follows, with eng.x3tc.ru as my guide:

UCS Overwatch
1x Raptor
Armament: 8x FAA 12xPBE 2,800 Wasp Missiles
Shields: 2x2GJ

2x Albatross
Armament: 8x FAA, 1,000x Wasp Missiles
Shields: 6x200MJ

20x Mamba Vanguard
Armament (per ship): 2x PAC, 6xHEPT, 200x Wasp Missiles
Shields: 3x25 MJ

Total: 223,455,617

Shouldn't be too computer breaking. Opposing fleet breaking though I hope. And yes, before anyone asks, I did consider the balance between the Python and Raptor, and the Raptor's speed, and flak beats out the Python being slower and more heavily armed. It's also much more expensive for less gain. Besides the spread of missiles across all ships should even out the lost damage. And yes, I could have used a heavier missile, but this one is fast, hits hard and does enough damage to be worth launching.

Incidentally, there's no reason to select the Hauler over the Sentinel. The second shield is more than enough to account for 30 speed and 1700 hull.

Cpt.Jericho · Post by **Cpt.Jericho** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 21:05

Er, Dude, at which SY do you buy your adv. Mambas?

And there is a reason to prefer the F Hauler: The Sentinel is also not allowed in this

Tenlar Scarflame · Post by **Tenlar Scarflame** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 21:18

The one behind the planet in Seizewell where the UFO is homebased, durr.

Now here's what I want to see - an all-Boron fleet. We don't usually hear much love for the fish-faces' designs, and if I were a Boron I wouldn't stand for it.

That, and a couple of Threshers on anti-capital duty could be quite terrifying, if done right...

Gavrushka · Post by **Gavrushka** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 21:22

I was wondering if round II could be race specific...

I'm clueless as to what to put in my fleet at the minute - I might roleplay and have a pure Yaki fleet for chuckles.

@Triaxx2 - My maths works you could have around 5,000 m5s if they were unarmed not 135! Scary....

imperium3 · Post by **imperium3** » Sun, 28. Mar 10, 23:41

Okay, here comes the fleet...

Wee Jocks Industries Rapid Response Taskforce

1x Panther "WJI Triple Distilled"

Front 6x IBL
Left 2x PALC
Right 2xPALC
Up 4x FAA
Down 4x FAA
Back 4x FAA
Shields 4x 1GJ
10x Typhoon missile
5x Wasp missile
Triplex Scanner
Hangar: the Solanos and Susanowas below
Total Cost = 53,004,728

29x Solano
Front 6x PAC
Shields 3x 25MJ
1x Wasp missile
FCS I and II
Total cost = 29x 906,153 = 26,278,437

3x Susanowa
Front 7x PBG, 1x IRE
Shields 2x 25MJ
1x Mosquito missile
FCS I and II
Total cost = 3x 2,542,794 = 7,628,382

10x Helios (carrying the #deca.cefa's and Nova Raiders)
Front 2x PAC
Back 2x PAC
Shields 2x 200MJ
Triplex Scanner
FCS I and II
Carrier Command Software
5x Dragonfly missile, 5x Wasp missile
Total cost = 10x 749,536 = 7,495,360

20x #deca.cefa
Front 8x PMAML
Back 1x EMPC
Shields 2x 25MJ
FCS I and II
2x Poltergeist missile
11x M/AM Warheads
Total cost = 20x 4,995,408 = 99,908,160

20x Nova Raider
Front 7x PBG, 1x IRE
Back 1x IRE
Shields 3x 25MJ
FCS I and II
1x Wasp missile
Total cost = 20x 2,784,240 = 55,684,800

Fleet cost = 249,999,867

Leaving a surplus of 133cr to provide spacefuel for the afterparty

Gavrushka · Post by **Gavrushka** » Mon, 29. Mar 10, 00:02

Imperium3 - I don't think you can set missile fire probability as it is Argon versus Xenon (no player owned faction) - and all the tests I did - including setting one side as player with 100% fire probability couldn't get more than 1 or 2 missiles out altogether. It seems that there is just too much for any CPU to handle.

I think what is needed is a SINGLE sector custom universe created so there will be no scripts running for 40,000 X Universe ships - Otherwise it is just meltdown - no CPU is going to be able to process two large fleets successfully alongside the entire TC universe.

I think creating a single sector universe would not be hard for someone familiar with this?

Tenlar Scarflame · Post by **Tenlar Scarflame** » Mon, 29. Mar 10, 00:43

Super amazingly easy.

In fact, maybe I'll whip up a fun warzone sector... at some point.

But yeah, all it takes is firing up the universe editor, placing a sun, maybe tweaking around with the backdrop, and exporting.

Deleted User · Post by **Deleted User** » Mon, 29. Mar 10, 06:23

whooooooooooops

grumble spaceweed grumble oh well... no Pyhton then... and the Tiger had ISRs sorry, was in a rush...

Merdocharr · Post by **Merdocharr** » Mon, 29. Mar 10, 09:36

This sounds like fun. Here's:

M-corp deep space patrol group Nue

Panther "Genocide doll"
4x1GJ shield
10x IBL (F/L/R)
8x FAA (U/D)
2x ISR (B)
30x hornet missile
Triplex scanner
52,020,428 cr

Cerberus "Corpse shopping district"
3x1GJ shield
4x IBL (F)
6x EBC (4xF/2xB)
4x CFA (U/D)
4x FAA (L/R)
30x hornet missile, 160x EBC ammo
Triplex scanner
46,483,778 cr

Shrike "Lava cromlech"
4x1GJ shield
4x IBL (F)
6x EBC (4xF/2xB)
4x Gauss (L/R)
4x FAA (U/D)
30x hornet missile, 160x EBC ammo, 26 Gauss cannon ammo
Triplex scanner
41,367,116 cr

Katana x 3 "Laevateinn", "Gungir", "Skofnung"
5x200MJ shield
6x M/AML (F)
6x EMPC (L/R/D)
30x poltergeist missile, 10x wraith missile, 5x spectre missile, 70x MAML ammunition
Triplex scanner
12,306,069 cr, 36,918,207 cr total

Nova raider x 11 "Gold wing"
3x25MJ shield
4x EBC
5x PAC
30x wasp missile, 36x EBC ammo
Triplex scanner
2,765,932 cr; 30,425,252 cr total

Falcon hauler x 10 "Silver wing"
1x200MJ shield
4x EBC
5x PAC
30x wasp missile, 36x EBC ammo
Triplex scanner
3,138,513 cr; 31,385,130 cr total

Solano x 12 "Bronze wing"
3x25MJ shield
6x PAC
30x wasp missile
Triplex scanner
949,149 cr; 11,389,788 cr total

Ships: 39, Hangar: 33/48
Total 249,989,699 cr (10301 cr left)

Ship setup for easy(ish) configuration:

1x Panther

Cargo: 4x1GJ shield, 30x hornet missile, 1x triplex scanner
Turret 0: ------ (main)
Turret 1: 6x IBL (front)
Turret 2: 2x IBL (right)
Turret 3: 2x ISR (back)
Turret 4: 2x IBL (left)
Turret 5: 4x FAA (up)
Turret 6: 4x FAA (down)

1x Cerberus

Cargo: 3x1GJ shield, 30x hornet missile, 160x EBC ammunition, 1x triplex scanner
Turret 0: 4x IBL, 4x EBC (main)
Turret 1: 2x FAA (right)
Turret 2: 2x EBC (back)
Turret 3: 2x FAA (left)
Turret 4: 2x CFA (up)
Turret 5: 2x CFA (down)
Turret 6: ------

1x Shrike

Cargo: 4x1GJ shield, 30x hornet missile, 160 EBC ammunition, 26x Gauss ammunition, 1x triplex scanner
Turret 0: 4x IBL, 4x EBC (main)
Turret 1: 2x Gauss (right)
Turret 2: 2x EBC (rear)
Turret 3: 2x Gauss (left)
Turret 4: 2x FAA (up)
Turret 5: 2x FAA (down)
Turret 6: ------

3x Katana

Cargo: 5x 200MJ shield, 30x poltergeist, 10x wraith, 5x spectre, 70x M/AM warheads, 1x triplex scanner
Turret 0: 6x M/AML (main)
Turret 1: 2x EMPC (right)
Turret 2: 2x EMPC (left)
Turret 3: 2x EMPC (down)

11x Nova raider

Cargo: 3x 25MJ shield, 30x wasp missile, 36x EBC ammunition, 1x triplex scanner
Turret 0: 4x EBC, 4x PAC (main)
Turret 1: 1x PAC (back)

10x Falcon hauler

Cargo: 1x 200MJ shield, 30x wasp missile, 36x EBC ammunition, 1x triplex scanner
Turret 0: 4x EBC, 4x PAC (main)
Turret 1: 1x PAC (back)

12x solano

Cargo: 3x 25MJ shield, 30x wasp missile, 1x triplex scanner
Turret 0: 6x PAC (main)

Edit: Forgot to type the gauss ammo.
Edit 2: Tweaking the fleet.
Edit 3: Fight command 1&2, duplex -> triplex for fighters.
Edit 4: Added configuration part.

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X-Verse Fleet Fest I