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that may be true individually, but u need to remember, that programs dont just have 1 varible, they have a lot.WEIRDANIMATOR wrote:Dude i think you should have had the emphasis on SMALL not on disadvantages, pointers are kinda small to start with are they not? What's the likelihood of that making a difference on a system with over 4gb of RAM?pjknibbs wrote:I think Windows 64 bit works fine. Just because a lot of the standard apps like IE are 32-bit doesn't change that...and it could be argued that a web browser doesn't really need to be a 64-bit application anyway. Don't forget, if you're not needing to access more than 2Gb of RAM, there's little benefit to going 64-bit and in fact there are some small DISADVANTAGES (because all your pointers are twice the size and thus you need more memory to do the same stuff).
Ps. Anyone else tempted to make a web page that needs 8gb of ram to open or is it just me?
LOL, the one core the game is using is still a 3.4 ghz unless you under or over clocked itRobert Foster wrote:Exactly, what General Traag & Requiemfang Said........!!
But there are 2 people at fault in this.
The Mod Creator and Egosoft.
The mod creator for knowing the limitations of the current state of the game.
And Egosoft,
Because egosoft has yet taken advantage of Quadcore.
So users can not have and use the full potential of the game because of it.
Also, Egosoft has not made the game for 64bit users.
Giving the player advantage to use up to 16 gigs of DDR3 memory.
Before anything, Egosoft needs to convert the game to use "Quadcore" processors.
While I was running this mod in the game, Only one of my processors
was pinned to the wall, while the other 3 processors was idle and doing nothing.
Mind you I have a AMD Phenom-II 965 Quadcore Processor.
But since the game only uses one core, im screwed.
I can imagine people with only One Core or Dual Core.
This kills peoples system this way.
Egosoft really needs to convert the game into 64-bit, so users having 64 bit operating systems, can take full advantage
of the DDR3 memory expansion by using 64bit and 16gigs of DDR3 memory allocations.
Currently most users using 32bit operating systems, can only use 3.2 gig of DDR2 memory.
If the game was converted to use 64bit operating system,
they can use up to 16-gigs of DDR3 memory with the game.
Gives the game more room to breath.
It would stop the staggering game play all together.
People are having problems and staggering game play because it does not
take the full advantage of the processors being released and used today.
So, how do you think their computers would react by being slammed by many ships.
If the game itself is not capable of handling Singlecore properly
without the staggering and slideshow game play.
Quadcore compatibilities is a must, so users/players can fully take advantage of having lots of ships
and very large dog fights in sectors without having the computer running havoc on people.
Once they do that, we all would set and not complaining about this stupid staggering.
it kills the fun really fast.
This is why I myself uninstalled the mod.
Besides all the messages every 3 seconds.
My nerves where going crazy.
I did not see your video card in thre but I assume that by being a black box user that it is something that compliments the rest of your system. If you have an Nividia card make a custom setting for x3tc, and in it set teh threaded optimisation to on. Or whatever the catalyst version of the setting is. And enjoy a rather dramatic performance improvement.
And ego is working on some other secret project now and that one probably is going to be coded for multi core.
Did you havesupakillaii wrote:Why nto just patch it to use C++!?
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Not in C++? aww dang,I thought as much.CBJ:
Frankly this doesn't add a lot to the debate. The idea that by adding a few lines of library calls to an existing single-threaded application to magically make it multi-threaded is, frankly, ridiculous. This is the kind of tool you use when designing a new game engine, not to paste into an old one. It's not a question of compensating for bad code; it's a question of code not being designed with multi-threading in mind, because at the time that code was written multi-core CPUs were not really on the agenda.
There's one more small issue with this grand idea too, namely that half the game is not written in C++ anyway.
maybe such languages can be used,who knows whats in store for the future. 
Lol why not eh?supakillaii:
Why nto just patch it to use C++!?
Build a 300 station complex and you'll see that it was written in Turtle.DVT wrote:Not in C++? aww dang,I thought as much.
The game itself uses a single thread, but that doesn't stop things that are called from the game such as drivers from making use of many threads. What you're doing there is allowing drivers more freedom to use cores other than the one the game is using, giving the game itself more CPU time and potentially improving performance of the drivers themselves as well.Incubi wrote:I do have one question. Since X3 was not coded for multicores, how does the setting in nividia Threaded optimization to on have such an imporement to performance? This has remained true over multiple computers and video cards for me, and others that followed my advice has noticed it too. So the how this works is confusing me.
Ahh, that makes sense.CBJ wrote:The game itself uses a single thread, but that doesn't stop things that are called from the game such as drivers from making use of many threads. What you're doing there is allowing drivers more freedom to use cores other than the one the game is using, giving the game itself more CPU time and potentially improving performance of the drivers themselves as well.Incubi wrote:I do have one question. Since X3 was not coded for multicores, how does the setting in nividia Threaded optimization to on have such an imporement to performance? This has remained true over multiple computers and video cards for me, and others that followed my advice has noticed it too. So the how this works is confusing me.
But for 1000+ station complexes it shifts to Whitespace.Gazz wrote:Build a 300 station complex and you'll see that it was written in Turtle.DVT wrote:Not in C++? aww dang,I thought as much.