playing with the xediter and xarchiever no.2

[cattafett]

this is i think the line from the tships file that is the argon m1
(just copy-pasted for shadowtec super carrier thread)

940;0;0.00999;0.00999;0.00999;3;3111;24000;1800;102;1;11;373;10000;112;247;4159;4514;1900928;6;3;6;4;9;5;30;2900;2900;1;1;3;4;2;2;4;3;5;5;6;6;130;4;1;80000;37;38;0;7;1;0;806;0;2;1;939;33;3;2;939;29;4;3;939;34;5;4;939;28;6;5;939;36;7;6;939;38;7;1;0;1;1;1;0;0;0;-1;-1;1;1;2;1;1;1;708;30;981;2;2;1;3;1;2;1;708;32;981;2;3;1;4;1;3;1;708;35;981;2;4;1;5;1;4;1;708;31;981;2;5;1;6;1;5;1;708;37;981;2;6;1;7;1;6;1;708;39;981;2;1;1355948;25;1;0;SS_SH_A_M1;

with the xediter you can copy/change what is here but is there somewhere that explanes what each bit means or can someone explane it to me.
The reason is i robbed the osprey MK 2 from deadlys ship only mod but when i changed the turrets to my tcockpits i had to change one of the top
turrets to a right turret and one of the bottom turrets to a left turret and i'm guessing that if i could change the tship file without the xediter i would
be able to keep the two top and two bottom turrets
also i think it would be useful to know

[Chris Gi]

Well, I remember there was one thread dealing with the order of the values. But you don't need to: you have all the information in X2 Editor (the offset stuff does explain the values).

But don't worry: you don't need to do it by hand. The "direction" part isn't important at all. If you want two top turrets, define one as Top and the other as Right. This works. Most important is the type of turret because it will define the weapons usuable on the turret, and of course the direction it points - I mean the model, not the definition in TShips.

I have a (long) ship with two right and two left turrets, but no top or bottom turret (they are used for the second side turrets). It works perfectly well.

[cattafett]

if poss could you link me to it sorry but i'm anal i liked it where it it said two tops and two bottoms

[Chris Gi]

Well, it can stay where it is! If you have a top turret, and define it as Right Turret in X2Editor, it is still a top turret! It shoots upwards, it's a top turret in every way - except that it is called "Right turret".

But you can try it with the TShips file. With the help of X2 Editor, it should be pretty easy to understand the line.
Look at positions 28 up, shortly after 2900;2900; it reads:
1;1;
3;4;
2;2;
4;3;
5;5;
6;6;
Does it look familiar?
It's type and position of the turret.
Compare it with the Split Raptor:
25;1;
27;4;
26;2;
28;3;
29;5;
30;6;

Well, I don't know if this works, but you can try to change the position parameter of the turrets.
Can you post your findings?

[cattafett]

first thanks once more

Look at positions 28 up,

i'm guessing a position is the no. then the ; seperates the position ie

940;0;0.00999;0.00999;0.00999;3;3111;

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th
and so on
and what you said was so over my head little green spacemen are dodging it
1;1; argon
25;1; split
first no. the tcockpit second no. top/bottom/Left or Right side front or back ???? ??
is there any thing that tells what each position is/does other than changing a no. loading the game looking at ship then going back changing it back and changing the next no.

p.s pandora is looking good would say hurry up but then you wouldn't have time to anwser my stupid questions

[Chris Gi]

Sorry, it really was pretty fast .

First thing I would do is try X2Editor. Go to the turrets tab and define your turrets as usual. If you have two top turrets, define one type 5 and the other type 3 (or 2 if you use side turrets but no front turrets). The type doesn't matter except you can't use a type twice. It's the direction the body faces that's important.

This should be alright, yo should end up with two turrets facing upwards. In-game, one of the turrets is named "Top Turrett" the other "Right turret" for example. But that doesn't matter. It should fire upwards anyway.