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Xenon?

Post by Naferius » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 00:14

Are the Xenon some kind of robots like Cylons from battlestar galactica or something. They seems really mysterious :xenon: I have seen some of them eject and the astronaut in the suit is Unknown entity pretty strange...

edited cuz i missed "few" words :oops:
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Re: Xenon?

Post by Gazz » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 00:30

There are definitely some strange life forms in this universe.
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Post by yourpowersareweakoldman » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 00:59

I think they are just computers in X3.

Whenever I have seen them "Eject" there is never an Astronaut.

I think it's cause one of your shots got lucky and disabled the ships central processor. Or at least that's what I tell myself as an excuse to capture Xenon ships.

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Post by Naferius » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 02:16

I didn't do a screen back then :oops: But anyway I was checking this topic: http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=206237
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Post by pjknibbs » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 07:49

If you ever see an astronaut left behind after a Xenon ship bails, it's a bug--that's not supposed to happen.

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Post by SVAndrei » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 09:44

Here's a good one: If the ship is commanded by a Computer, how come it has a cockpit? I doubt the Xenon just put it in there just in case their ship gets captured.

That is why i never use Xenon ships as personal ships.

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Post by nman » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 09:49

SVAndrei wrote:Here's a good one: If the ship is commanded by a Computer, how come it has a cockpit? I doubt the Xenon just put it in there just in case their ship gets captured.

That is why i never use Xenon ships as personal ships.
Maybe you just automatically rip out the cooling units for the main Xenon computer, and put in windows (the clear see-through stuff, not the OS), life support, a cockpit, comms, artificial gravity, targeting software, etc...

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Post by jordan kirwan » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 09:55

Maybe you just automatically rip out the cooling units for the main Xenon computer, and put in windows (the clear see-through stuff, not the OS), life support, a cockpit, comms, artificial gravity, targeting software, etc...
yeah im sure you do
Here's a good one: If the ship is commanded by a Computer, how come it has a cockpit? I doubt the Xenon just put it in there just in case their ship gets captured.
i read i another post that the xenon dont have enough self awareness to realize they dont need a cockpit
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Post by SVAndrei » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 10:00

nman wrote:
SVAndrei wrote:Here's a good one: If the ship is commanded by a Computer, how come it has a cockpit? I doubt the Xenon just put it in there just in case their ship gets captured.

That is why i never use Xenon ships as personal ships.
Maybe you just automatically rip out the cooling units for the main Xenon computer, and put in windows (the clear see-through stuff, not the OS), life support, a cockpit, comms, artificial gravity, targeting software, etc...
And you do all his while out in your space suit, and in a few seconds too? With no assistance from a shipyard, as well. :D

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Post by beyer_garratt » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 10:22

Windows XP -> Windows Vista -> Skynet -> Xenon1.0 -> Xenon OS we know today.
Xenon was a self-aware OS designed to run advanced autopilot operations on par with human pilots that went wrong, killing its creators and replicating itself into the secret prototype ships we now identify as Xenon, which were the ships the original tests of the OS were conducted in.

Xenon knows exactly what materials are required to build each ship, and it also contains information on how to make advanced materials such as alloys, which were stored in data banks in the original prototypes.

Incidentally, Xenon is a single entity, a computer operating system, thus saying 'The Xenon' is a bit of a grammatical faux pass. :wink:

The reason Xenon ships all have cockpits is because the OS was designed to operate with one, an attribute Xenon has not 'bred' out yet. In fact, Xenon builds its ships to the exact same blueprint that it 'ran away' with, hence all ships are equipped with fully functional cockpits.

Also, despite not having had a human in their ships for many jazuras, every Xenon ship is built with fully functioning space suits, which were included in the original blueprints for the Xenon test ships. What the opening poster describes is one of these suits being ejected by Xenon itself, which was built with automatic pilot ejection upon system failure/damage etc.

The suit is pressurized with oxygen, hence the reason it seems to maintain its shape even in space.

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Post by Gazz » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 10:34

Wow! That's a fine piece of technobabble!
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Post by SVAndrei » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 13:27

The scary part is that it actually makes perfect sense. :lol:

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Post by Shadowbourne » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 13:37

Egosoft should employ you as a press/community relations officer (spin doctor) to come up with good reasons for all of their 'undocumented features' :D
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Post by jordan kirwan » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 14:37

Windows XP -> Windows Vista -> Skynet -> Xenon1.0 -> Xenon OS we know today.
Xenon was a self-aware OS designed to run advanced autopilot operations on par with human pilots that went wrong, killing its creators and replicating itself into the secret prototype ships we now identify as Xenon, which were the ships the original tests of the OS were conducted in.

Xenon knows exactly what materials are required to build each ship, and it also contains information on how to make advanced materials such as alloys, which were stored in data banks in the original prototypes.

Incidentally, Xenon is a single entity, a computer operating system, thus saying 'The Xenon' is a bit of a grammatical faux pass.

The reason Xenon ships all have cockpits is because the OS was designed to operate with one, an attribute Xenon has not 'bred' out yet. In fact, Xenon builds its ships to the exact same blueprint that it 'ran away' with, hence all ships are equipped with fully functional cockpits.

Also, despite not having had a human in their ships for many jazuras, every Xenon ship is built with fully functioning space suits, which were included in the original blueprints for the Xenon test ships. What the opening poster describes is one of these suits being ejected by Xenon itself, which was built with automatic pilot ejection upon system failure/damage etc.

The suit is pressurized with oxygen, hence the reason it seems to maintain its shape even in space.

You know you have way too much spare time when you make the effort to think things like this through thoroughly.
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Post by BeavelGuy » Sun, 10. Aug 08, 16:22

its been a while since I played the first game...
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but dont the Xenon have their roots in the original terraformer fleet sent out by the Earth to prepare planets for colonisation, which subsequently went rogue, and started a war with Earth (which was only saved by Nathan R. Gunne's last-ditch feint drawing the terraformer fleet through a jumpgate into the current X universe, spawning the argon race and the goner religion)?
if so it would make sense to say that the Xenon havent quite realised that cockpits arent technically required in spacecraft, although you would think that anything they designed from the ground up would have omitted them :) maybe all xenon ships are based on the work of their own designers... or maybe Egosoft just thought it would be cool to let us fly them :twisted:

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