NEWS: X³:TC "Build" Video - (Plus all available release info)

xeon_1 · Post by **xeon_1** » Thu, 31. Jul 08, 18:17

Does anybody know when X3TC will be available in de egosoft shop?

Post by **Cycrow** » Thu, 31. Jul 08, 20:38

xeon_1 wrote:Does anybody know when X3TC will be available in de egosoft shop?

most likly when the game is released

g04tn4d0 · Post by **g04tn4d0** » Thu, 31. Jul 08, 20:40

*sigh*

Great. Now I went and saw the video and I'm all hyped up. Am I going to be able to transfer my saved game to X3TC or will I be having to start over? The reason why I ask is because if I have to start over, I will probably just stop playing X3 and wait until X3TC comes out. If my stuff will get imported, then I'd like to know so I can get busy making more money and building more stations.

Cycrow wrote:
xeon_1 wrote:Does anybody know when X3TC will be available in de egosoft shop?
most likly when the game is released

Wow... that was rude. Wouldn't it have been easier to just repeat the proposed release date. Isn't it around September of this year?

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Thu, 31. Jul 08, 20:53

ncc386 wrote:Wouldn't it have been easier to just repeat the proposed release date.

No. Cycrow would have had to look it up to write it. "When released" refers to "date of release" nicely, and remains true even if proposed date of release would change. Besides, it is bad programming style to use string literals instead of named variables.

Skeeter · Post by **Skeeter** » Thu, 31. Jul 08, 20:55

No saves have ever been compatible between old and new x games. We all like it to be but due to new stuff it would break the save.

The game will probably be on es site for preorder roughly the time the game is (end of September) out it might be on there sooner but if i remember its usually after its released.

Post by **Cycrow** » Thu, 31. Jul 08, 21:03

ncc386 wrote:*sigh*

Great. Now I went and saw the video and I'm all hyped up. Am I going to be able to transfer my saved game to X3TC or will I be having to start over? The reason why I ask is because if I have to start over, I will probably just stop playing X3 and wait until X3TC comes out. If my stuff will get imported, then I'd like to know so I can get busy making more money and building more stations.

Cycrow wrote:
xeon_1 wrote:Does anybody know when X3TC will be available in de egosoft shop?
most likly when the game is released
Wow... that was rude. Wouldn't it have been easier to just repeat the proposed release date. Isn't it around September of this year?

if i would have said september, im sure some would take that as confirmation.

all i ment was that it will most likly be available on the site at the same time as it is from other shops.

but we only have a "guess" for when that will be

xeon_1 · Post by **xeon_1** » Thu, 31. Jul 08, 22:30

Cycrow wrote:
ncc386 wrote:*sigh*

Great. Now I went and saw the video and I'm all hyped up. Am I going to be able to transfer my saved game to X3TC or will I be having to start over? The reason why I ask is because if I have to start over, I will probably just stop playing X3 and wait until X3TC comes out. If my stuff will get imported, then I'd like to know so I can get busy making more money and building more stations.

Cycrow wrote:
xeon_1 wrote:Does anybody know when X3TC will be available in de egosoft shop?
most likly when the game is released
Wow... that was rude. Wouldn't it have been easier to just repeat the proposed release date. Isn't it around September of this year?
if i would have said september, im sure some would take that as confirmation.

all i ment was that it will most likly be available on the site at the same time as it is from other shops.

but we only have a "guess" for when that will be

I meant for pre order like X3.
If i have to waih for the shop's here i can wait half a year since the game isn't a high hype and such.
If it ever hits the serfs here.
I only found X3 in the shops here a year after it was released.

Post by **Nanook** » Thu, 31. Jul 08, 22:56

Cycrow wrote:
xeon_1 wrote:Does anybody know when X3TC will be available in de egosoft shop?
most likly when the game is released

Interesting, if true. In the past, it's been possible to pre-order X games through Egosoft's site months prior to release. That's what I did for both X2 and X3. With X2, the pre-order even included a special deck of cards of various X2 ships. The Enlight version of X3 I pre-ordered came with an X3 T-shirt.

Vitez · Post by **Vitez** » Thu, 31. Jul 08, 23:13

Ohhh, please let there be an ENGLISH special edition for X3: TC

fiksal · Post by **fiksal** » Thu, 31. Jul 08, 23:14

hm alright then... the "build" part was awfully short...
unless it was intended for someone who never played X games

mrsack · Post by **mrsack** » Fri, 1. Aug 08, 01:09

Please be available on Steam at release time

EKS · Post by **EKS** » Fri, 1. Aug 08, 01:22

I cant wait, this looks great. And it seems this new game has improvements in controlling bigger fleets i just cant wait.

Il be buying it off steam to

uxnhoj123 · Post by **uxnhoj123** » Fri, 1. Aug 08, 03:18

I know a lot of these ships are from, or are inspired by XTM, which is why I was wondering if the ships seen 1:00 into the video are from XTM.

I love the ships with three hulls and I like the style of the smaller vessel in the middle of the formation that they focus on at the end of the shot.

jvx · Post by **jvx** » Fri, 1. Aug 08, 03:27

like watching HD format, can not wait it any more.

Predator02 · Post by **Predator02** » Fri, 1. Aug 08, 08:11

That white ship interests me. I've seen it and others like it in a few release screenshots. I'm guessing it's Terran but it doesn't look like the other X3 Terran ships (not silver polished with blue window.) Also, multiple wing management? Score! Hopefully it'll be comprehensive. I love fleet battles. 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 6 Frigates, 60 fighters. Hopefully this will that ball of angry fighters into comprehensive tactical wings.

I just hope they fixed all the hardcoded X3 problems. Like PBE lag or crazy AI kamikaze.

Draakon · Post by **Draakon** » Fri, 1. Aug 08, 08:48

Demotruk wrote:
BigBANGtheory wrote:The narrative talks about bomber squadrons too
Yeah, I'm curious about that. If you load up some Nova's with Firestorms/Hammerheads/other heavy missiles, put them into a group with all wings set to attack leaders target, and 100% missile fire chance, isn't that a bombing squadron?

No. Because that ship is shooting missiles not bombs. And bombs don't fly like missiles, because you drop the bomb on your target. For example fly up to 500m close to the target, use the "Drop bomb" key or whatever the key is and the bomb will steer itself to there. The reason is this because bombs can't fly from 2KM or even 5KM.

But i like they are making bombers. Makes use of new tactics, like capital ships and bombers go head to head with other capital ships. Fighters, from fast to slow, from small to big, will deal with other fighters and bombers, and maybe frigates too.

Talking of frigates, are we seeing that M7 Hyberion again? If so, is it the same powerful or weaker?

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Fri, 1. Aug 08, 09:34

Demotruk wrote:If you load up some Nova's with Firestorms/Hammerheads/other heavy missiles, put them into a group with all wings set to attack leaders target, and 100% missile fire chance, isn't that a bombing squadron?

Yes and no. You are still using regular fighters that could use regular guns. And with X3:R attack logic, they will not shoot (not even missiles) unless they are within gun range of the target. And you do know what happens if you launch missile/torpedo/bomb while taking fire ... How many missile-spamming Pirates have we assisted in committing suicide?

Draakon wrote:No. Because that ship is shooting missiles not bombs. And bombs don't fly like missiles, because you drop the bomb on your target.

"Drop" ... "down". Except there is no "down" in space, so nothing drops. And a heavy level-bomber can drop its load from 10,000 meters. That is a 10 km drop. And the "smart" bombs of today can glide a bit (in atmosphere). The X3:R AI practically "drops" all missiles from point blank range anyway. A "bomb" may be different from "missile", but I do doubt that. A special type of missile perhaps.

So what does "bomber squad" mean? No idea. It could mean a ship class specialized for use of some weapons. It could mean a rewrite of AI (which we all probably wish really hard for). And it could mean a wider selection of the "missile/mine" category (like the X3:R Manual hinted of possibilities that the game never implemented). A screen-shot elsewhere did show that the missile statistics might have changed (a welcome fix for the X2 missile types).

Skeeter · Post by **Skeeter** » Fri, 1. Aug 08, 10:12

If they use bombers i hope they dont let them ships fire lasers but just heavy missiles like nukes or somit.

unknown1 · Post by **unknown1** » Fri, 1. Aug 08, 11:10

Skeeter wrote:If they use bombers i hope they dont let them ships fire lasers but just heavy missiles like nukes or somit.

yea i like your ideea man...just like in battlestaions midway...you fly at 3 km from ground with a wing of 5 dive bombers ....run into a dive release your bombs and SMASH.... that destroyer is now only a plasma cloud

A5PECT · Post by **A5PECT** » Fri, 1. Aug 08, 12:23

The flight wing concept sounds promising, but I agree, there was remarkably little "build" present in the trailer. Still a very nice show of some of the new ships and stations.

One thing that's bugging me: did anyone notice there seem to be two versions of the Cerberus featured in the trailer? There was one shown through in-game footage which looked rather polished as well the current XTM version shown in the splash screen at the end of the video.

Of course they could just be two completely different ships...

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NEWS: X³:TC "Build" Video - (Plus all available release info)