Running X2 in background

[General Javid]

I don't know about you, but when I play Rise of Nations (just now in fact), when I Alt-tab out to do other things, and then go back 5-minutes later, there has been no change in the game from the time I left it.

I don't mean to debate or argue, but that's my experience with Rise of Nations. Otherwise, I'm sure there are games that can run quite happily in the background. I know neither X-BTF or XT could run in the background.

Just my two-cents... go easy

[Ummagumma]

I never believed what people say about Canadians, but vabtek is a rather convincing argument.

Vabtek isn't Canadian. He's Quebecois.

[vabtek]

...and now I know for what I'm saving the credits for... A nice Argon TL... Fast, Big cargo space, holds 15 ships up to dolphins L and nova L... For exemple, I've put 5 Nova's, 2 Dolphins, 1 solar plant, 1 sillicon and one ore plant. Had 2k energy for the jumpdrive, couple of adv satellites, many weapon types in it and still had about half of free space of cargo... So the Argon TL will certainly be my first best utility ship way before carriers and destroyers...

SWEET!!! I hope you are correct. Thats the kindof spoiler I've been hoping to find while waiting for my preorder of X2 to arrive. About a month ago there were stats on the Argon Mammoth that said it would only carry 4-5 ships total and I was outrage and crying in my beers. Now at least I know the ship is a useful stepping stone before purchase of a full carrier instead of just a worthless utility ship. If the Argon TL ship capacity really is 15 I want to thank the Devs profusely!!! I cant believe they actually fixed that and so soon before release.

Well I screwd at the 15 ships... It's 12 ships actually for the mammoth and 21000 units of cargo... - Orca 10 ships, 17000 cargo. - Albatros 10 ships, 14000 cargo. - Elephant 30 ships, 11000 cargo. -Hercules 27 ships, 13000 cargo. So for my first need the mammoth is the best big mama for stations distribution.... And the Elephant as an entry level carrier...

[vabtek]

I apologize about the personal attack. It was uncalled for.

accepted

[vabtek]

I never believed what people say about Canadians, but vabtek is a rather convincing argument.

Vabtek isn't Canadian. He's Quebecois.

You cannot be Quebecois without being Canadian first... logic 101

[Beef]

Now in regards to "When you send a task in background it stops and wait to be relaunched" that's just bogus. I know several games that will run just fine in the background.

I'll repeat, a programmer can choose to make his program run in the background or not. X² totally blocks in he background, it doesn't even redraw the window.

Everyone seems to have his or her own definition for multi-tasking and multi-threading. Don't read on if you're not interested in technical details =)

If someone says multi-tasking, I think of handling and running different programs at once. This doesn't say that the programs in the background keep running or not, you can simply run different programs at once.
Multi-threading is running different threads or 'processes' at the same time. One program can have a lot of processes at the same time.
To clear up some confusion, a process is a program sequence. Multi-threading is running several of those sequences at once.

"My computer has only once cpu, how can it run different sequences at the same time?"
Operating systems like windows don't actually run those sequences in parallel. All your processes are put in a queue and all get a little portion of cpu cycles, thus 'faking' parallel computing. There still is the issue of memory resources, deadlock prevention etc... but thats pretty advanced stuff, each operating system has it's own implementation.
It's even possible for a program to not quit all it's processes, those 'zombie' processes will keep running in the background, hogging system resources. A lot of pesky ad- and spyware use 'daemon' threads to keep running in the background, without you knowing.

Has this anything to do with X² running in the background? Well, if you have a line in your program code saying "if window not active, switch to other process", your program will block. Programs can run perfectly well in the background, it all just depends on the design decision if they should or not (who needs ms word to keep running in the background?).

[Parias]

I'll repeat, a programmer can choose to make his program run in the background or not. X² totally blocks in he background, it doesn't even redraw the window.

Only vaguely related, but I find it even better when programmers go the extra effort to add a "Suspend When Inactive" option to a given title's configuration options, therefore letting the user decide if a game will pause or not when it doesn't have focus.

[Beef]

Only vaguely related, but I find it even better when programmers go the extra effort to add a "Suspend When Inactive" option to a given title's configuration options, therefore letting the user decide if a game will pause or not when it doesn't have focus.

very good idea actually

[JrStonewall]

Well I screwd at the 15 ships... It's 12 ships actually for the mammoth and 21000 units of cargo... - Orca 10 ships, 17000 cargo. - Albatros 10 ships, 14000 cargo. - Elephant 30 ships, 11000 cargo. -Hercules 27 ships, 13000 cargo. So for my first need the mammoth is the best big mama for stations distribution.... And the Elephant as an entry level carrier...

Still nice, but I'm kind of partial to either the Herc or Mammoth from Xt and it seems the Hercules 27 ship and 13k capacity is ideal for me if it is priced relative to the Mammoth like in Xt the Herc was 16million bucks and the Mammoth though a much nicer ride wasnt worth the nearly 50million pricetag IMHO. Though I did end Xt in a Mammoth (and persius) it was more a matter of having millions of credits from hundreds of factories and nothing else to spend it on.

[FLY135]

Multi-threading is running different threads or 'processes' at the same time. One program can have a lot of processes at the same time.
To clear up some confusion, a process is a program sequence. Multi-threading is running several of those sequences at once.

There are always exceptions and various ways to use terminology. But in modern computers with memory management units and virtualized memory space like todays PC's and 32 bit OS's, a process is not considered to be the function of, or synonymous with "thread". In the most simplistic terms a process is a separate application. One or more threads will reside in a process. A process has it's own protected memory space from other processes, where a thread resides in the same memory space as other threads in the same process. So it would be incorrect to interchangably use the term "thread" and "process".

[mostlikely]

Hmmm.. I've had some luck in running x2 in the background..

I've got this movie player that has an always-ontop mode..

what I do is play x2 in a window... alt-tab out and turn on always ontop for the player.. then switch back to x2 (wich I can't see) press backspace to stop my ship from moving (tab) and "j" to turn on seta..

[Descend]

i think not test, but maybe work:
use second opr system and runing X2.
Example VMware Workstation Pro can setup windows, and can running game.
I try this later...

Edit: i try, this work fine...