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PostPosted: Thu, 25. Feb 10, 17:56    Post subject: [MOD] Strengthened Shiphulls [2.7-beta.01] Reply with quote Print

Strengthened Shiphulls (Update: 15th June 2010 15:30 PM CEST)



Description
This modification changes the shiphull values of ships after following scheme:


alpha.04 & beta.01:
  • M7LC, M7M ... Multiplicator 2
  • M3, M4, M5, M8, TS, TP, TM, TL ... Multiplicator 3
  • M6, M7 ... Multiplicator 5
  • M1, M2, OWP ... Multiplicator 10


alpha.03:
  • M3, M4, M5, M8, TS, TP, TM, TL ... Multiplicator 3
  • M6, M7, M7M ... Multiplicator 5
  • M1, M2, OWP ... Multiplicator 10


alpha.02:
  • M3, M4, M5, M8 ... Multiplicator 3
  • TS, TP, TM, TL ... Multiplicator 5
  • M6, M7, M7M ... Multiplicator 7
  • M1, M2, OWP ... Multiplicator 10


Attention! ... it's an beta version with few tested balancing!


Installation
The installation is supposed to be as a fake patch or as mod package. The .zip-file can be extracted to your ./mods-directory of your X³: Terran Conflict main directory.

For a fake-patch installation, you should extract the .zip-file to a temporary directory. Then you have to find your highest used number for your .cat/.dat-files. This number added by one gets the new name for my delivered sSH_2.7.cat/.dat, you have to rename them. Afterwards you simply have to move these renamed files to you X³: Terran Conflict main directory.

Because these new shiphull values only apply to new spawned ships, this modification should be used with a newly started game.


Uninstallation
To uninstall this modification, you simply have to delete the .cat/.dat-files of this modification. But existing ships with increased shiphull values will stay until they get destroyed.


Notes
This modification was created with an own written PHP-script, which multiplies the shiphull values of the ship with their multiplicator. There hasn't been a test of this new balancing yet.

If anybody will use this modification, I would be happy about his feedback. The shiphull values can be easily changed by using the PHP-script.


Compatibility
This recent version of the modification was created on base of files of a X³:TC 2.7 installation. It won't be compatible, without adjustments, to any modifications which modify the following file:
  • .\types\TShips.pck


Since version alpha.03 there is added compatibility for the modifications CODEA Weapon Base and Minotaur Luxury Cruiser, both released by Lucike.


Known Bugs
- none


Changelog
2.7-beta.01: Compatibility to X³:TC 2.7.
2.5-alpha.04: Multiplicators reworked.
2.5-alpha.03: Multiplicators reworked, added compliance to CODEA Weapon Base and Minotaur Luxury Cruiser modification.
2.5-alpha.02: Added different multiplicators for different ship-classes.
2.5-alpha.01: First release.


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Strengthened Shiphulls (2.5-alpha.04)
Strengthened Shiphulls (2.5-alpha.03)
Strengthened Shiphulls (2.5-alpha.02)
Strengthened Shiphulls (2.5-alpha.01)


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PostPosted: Thu, 25. Feb 10, 17:59    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

here comes the overpowered space suits...


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PostPosted: Thu, 25. Feb 10, 18:31    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

ehh, wouldn't it be much easier to decrease the weapon damage, instead of increasing the shiphull?

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PostPosted: Thu, 25. Feb 10, 18:45    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Missiles do equal damage to the hull and shields. Reducing hull damage across the board wouldn't work.

What about the Mass driver? Small fighters are going to be really screwed over on this one. 10x the hull means the MD is 10x weaker.

Small ships have unusually high hull values, while capital ships have unusually low hull values. I don't think 10x across the board is the best idea.

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PostPosted: Thu, 25. Feb 10, 18:58    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Bobucles wrote:
What about the Mass driver? Small fighters are going to be really screwed over on this one. 10x the hull means the MD is 10x weaker.

Small ships have unusually high hull values, while capital ships have unusually low hull values. I don't think 10x across the board is the best idea.


Mhmm ... quite a good point ...

... it should be quite easy to teach the script to differ the different classes to use different factors.

Any suggestions for good values, if (for example) differing into following classes (non-ES standard classes)?

Fighters (M3 - M5, M8?)
Freighters (TS, TP, TM, TL)
Big Ships (M6, M7)
Huge Ships (M1, M2)


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PostPosted: Thu, 25. Feb 10, 19:14    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Gazz has devoloped a damage mitigation script, which does this kind of thing for M1/M2 ships.

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PostPosted: Thu, 25. Feb 10, 21:26    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I have been thinking about this mod, and while I like the general idea X10 to all ships seems like a bad idea.

M3 and to a lesser degree M4 should get boosted. M5s if anything, should only be boosted by a small amount (X3 or so, be about like current M4s). Their speed is there main defense. Making them too resilient would be irritating.

Not sure about TS/TP.

All big ships should get a (default multiplier whatever that is). M2, M6, and M7 are all front of the line military fighting ships would get double the amount of the default multiplier. M1s and TLs, TMs, M7Ms and M8s as well as the Spit Panther(possible to single it out?) are support craft. Seems to me that designers would be willing to sacrifice armor for storage space and hangar bays.

I agree that Mass Drivers damage might need a tweak to compensate.

Maybe the repair laser will need a tweak I don't see it as big a deal as the Mass Driver.

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PostPosted: Thu, 25. Feb 10, 21:38    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I've reworked my php-script and added different multiplicators. At the moment they are like follows:

  • M3, M4, M5, M8 ... Multiplicator 3
  • TS, TP, TM, TL ... Multiplicator 5
  • M6, M7, M7M ... Multiplicator 7
  • M1, M2, OWP ... Multiplicator 10


I like the thinking of better armored freighters ... but I'm not sure if it is to much. For the TL i like it quite good, compared to the capital ships as a TL is supposed to be a huge freighter and no battleship.

Also not sure about M6, if they are to heavy armoured.



Anyway, a second alpha with that settings is already for download.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25. Feb 10, 21:53    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Minus the weapon damage 3-4x and I think that would do well enough. You have to see it as battles lasting 3-4x longer.


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PostPosted: Tue, 15. Jun 10, 15:35    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Strengthened Shiphulls


Changelog
2.7-beta.01: Compatibility to X³:TC 2.7.
2.5-alpha.04: Multiplicators reworked.
2.5-alpha.03: Multiplicators reworked, added compliance to CODEA Weapon Base and Minotaur Luxury Cruiser modification.


Download
Strengthened Shiphulls (2.5-beta.01)


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