Hyperion Vanguard - capturing

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Hyperion Vanguard - capturing

Post by Relief » Mon, 22. Dec 08, 05:06

So I have been looking towards the Hyperion Vanguard as my main personal ship, the only problem is that this ship is not for sale at any paranid ship yard. I see the Hyperion Vanguard as the best player ship for the reasons of fire power and the ability to doc ships, which allow the player to transfer to a faster M5 when needed.

The issue I have is finding one, I have searched many paranid sectors without a one in sight. Does anyone have an idea where I might find one?

Secondly, I have yet to attempt boarding a ship with marines. I am currently in the process of training a group to prepare for the mission. Though as seeing I have yet to attempt this, does anyone have any advice? I am going to use a TP as my marine transport and attempting unloading the marines at the right time... any advice is welcome.

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Post by xiriod » Mon, 22. Dec 08, 05:11

Keep searching, as it moves around. And secondly, I would advise to at least use an M6 for the capture as the Hyperion is tough for a TP.

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Post by Lancefighter » Mon, 22. Dec 08, 05:24

I agree, use an m6 if possible. the m3+tp strategy works fine for ships with few turrets, but really not the best vs a hype (with FOUR turrets!)
Train up those marines, 3 stars is probably going to be needed.

Your best bet is a sat network in most paranid sectors, and constant watch. Barring that, an m5 piloted by you scouting them all out...

Which reminds me.
m5s are SLOW now.
I remember back in x2 when a disco went 500.. a jag went over 1000 m/s!
Now a disco goes like 300, a jag like 500.
And the arrow and starburst arent there anymore from what I understand :|
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Post by PaulP » Mon, 22. Dec 08, 07:41

I see Hyperions EVERYWHERE. I've probably capped 20 of them by now.

I'm not really sure why... but they're purty :)

As far as M5s, the Kestrel is the best one - pirate if you can capture one (which isn't easy, considering they fly 635.2ms). They hold jumpdrives too, although the 52 sized cargo bay limits the distance - I just jump mine in on my Hyperion.

The Hyperion is a great ship. My Hyperion is my utility ship - its loaded up for taking down big ships, my Nova Raider also onboard is a bit faster and equipped with PRGs and EBCs for ships big and small when I want more maneuverability, and my Pirate Kestrel is great for scouting. And if anything really big shows up (like a KM2), I just jump in my Tiger.

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Post by cucher » Mon, 22. Dec 08, 10:38

Yesterday capped one. Used Vidar and 5 marines with 2-3 stars average. Took off sime hull till speed 110 mps. Marines left me though 30%. My opinion, Hyperion is better then Vidar. EBCs save laser generator pretty well, and the damage for enemies is great.

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Post by NeverSnake » Mon, 22. Dec 08, 15:46

Lancefighter wrote:Which reminds me.
m5s are SLOW now.
I remember back in x2 when a disco went 500.. a jag went over 1000 m/s!
Now a disco goes like 300, a jag like 500.
And the arrow and starburst arent there anymore from what I understand :|
You're misremembering, the speeds for M5s in X2 ranged from 260m/s for the mandalay to 540m/s for the Jaguar, X2 did have it's own superfast M5 with the pegasus and it's 1009m/s speed like reunion's arrow. I can't say I miss them in TC though, the kestral is about as fast as I want to go, any faster and you flinch whenever you get near an asteroid.

I used a heavy osprey with five four star marines to capture the Hyperion and they had no trouble.
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Post by Relief » Tue, 23. Dec 08, 02:02

Well at this stage I don't have the capital to afford anything like a M6 or above... so here is the battle plan thus far.

tell my TP to follow me, once in decent rage pound the ship with missals to lower the shields, once done transfer to the TP and set my nova to keep shields down while I move the TP into position and eject troops. I am thinking even with the mass of turrets I should be able to at least do this quickly enough to keep from taking too much damage. Any suggestions?

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Post by Lancefighter » Tue, 23. Dec 08, 02:28

actually.
I would recommend telling the TP to follow the target.
Usually, because the TP isnt being aggressive, it will be ignored... allowing it to stay within a thousand meters or so.

From there, use cycrow's hotkeys to launch a boarding attempt from it once the shields are down. Hopefully, this will work...
i used this method to catch my first m6, a hydra. Then again to get a nemmy :)
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Post by Cycrow » Tue, 23. Dec 08, 17:17

btw theres been a few improvements to the boarding commands.

in Ships additional command console, theres a command to launch all your marines straight away

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Post by Lancefighter » Tue, 23. Dec 08, 18:32

o.0 no way...

still no substitute for a hotkey; your not out of business yet cycrow :p
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Post by Relief » Wed, 24. Dec 08, 07:41

Hmm, so I have mapped all paranid sectors and placed sats. I still have yet to see one... this is getting a little disconcerting.

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Post by Legionnaire » Wed, 24. Dec 08, 07:48

Before i nabbed it mine was labelled Paranid Military Hyperion Vanguard, and it was a total fluke seeing it, i had been back and forth through the paranid sectors on many occasions before seeing it, so be aware, the name may not jump out at you.

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Post by Relief » Wed, 24. Dec 08, 08:08

Yeah I have been careful to watch for that, I figured it would have a title since all the other ships do.

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Post by PaulP » Wed, 24. Dec 08, 08:14

I see them everywhere, so you're probably just overlooking them.

Right now just randomly jumping between 8 different Paranid sectors I spotted 3 of them.

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Post by Blake Gedye » Fri, 8. May 09, 13:16

Hi there all,

I'm also having the same problem, I really want a Hyperion.

I have found one though, I've got a M5 ordered to follow it 24/7 so I never loss sight of it, good thinking i thought ;)

but now I need to capture it, so far my plans are to send boarding parties from both my Centaur (5 marines) and Scabbard (10 marines) but I'm not getting any luck... do the marines have to have a certain amount of stars? and if so, haw many marines will do the job

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