I'm writing a novel...

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Sun, 24. Oct 04, 00:05

Amateur novelist is online. Please don't disturb me as I'm trying to think <snore>.

And I'm at college. Got two on the go and got quite a few ideas for about seven or eight. Got a few ideas for this one as well. I just want to know that if I do do an X2 novel that I have permission to use information gone before. That's it. Working on a sci-fi series called "Space Conflict" and an assassin novel called "The Assassin's Curse." Well, you know what they say, "One curse to rule them all..."

pixel · Post by **pixel** » Sun, 24. Oct 04, 01:22

hmmm, if you look at the forum lists you'll see there is one called 'creative'

if you post some of your work in progress there you should get some helpful feedback from some of our residents, some of them are quite good actually

Rapier · Post by **Rapier** » Sun, 24. Oct 04, 01:26

There are a few budding writers in these parts, but most hang out in the creative forum. Provided you're not trying to make a profit from your writing no one is too bothered about what you use. You should, of course, include the proper acknowledgements. I see you've already found the Fiction Foundary, if you stick to those guidelines then your novel might be said to be set in the X-Universe, break them and it must be some other place. Good luck and above all, enjoy your writing.

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Sun, 24. Oct 04, 08:43

Moving this to Creative, where it belongs.

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Thu, 28. Oct 04, 02:18

Thanx for the feedback, guys. Unfortunatly, the X2 one might not be started for a few years. Got two, like I mentioned earlier, on the slate already, and its taking all my creativity to keep em alive. Feedback is very much appreciated.

Jericho · Post by **Jericho** » Fri, 29. Oct 04, 11:13

Zemethius wrote:Amateur novelist is online. Please don't disturb me as I'm trying to think <snore>. And I'm at college. Got two on the go and got quite a few ideas for about seven or eight. Got a few ideas for this one as well. I just want to know that if I do do an X2 novel that I have permission to use information gone before. That's it. Working on a sci-fi series called "Space Conflict" and an assassin novel called "The Assassin's Curse." Well, you know what they say, "One curse to rule them all..."

Not starting a flame or attack on you at all. BUT:

"Space Conflict" sounds like a bad title. I really think you should come up with something else. Just sounds cheesy, or for the younger market.

Similar with "Assassin's Curse" I agree it lets you know something about the content, and is not quite as bad as others.

If I was in a bookshop and saw all these book's titles, I would not pickup "Space Conflict" due to its title (I know, i know, never judge a book by its cover).

Just my tuppence.

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Fri, 29. Oct 04, 17:09

At the moment I'm concentrating on the content, Jericho. Once I've done with that I might consider changing the titles, but, <shock>, there are people who really like the titles.

Let the guy concentrate on the content, and maybe, when the writing is over I'll give you guys a free sample. But at the moment I'm thinking and it doesn't do for the creativity to change the title on the spur of the moment, unless it really fits.

Anyway, both may sound cheesy, but like you said, never judge a book by its cover and never judge a book on the title name. Shame you think those things but, hey, in this business the consumer is always right.

Or are they?...

Jericho · Post by **Jericho** » Tue, 2. Nov 04, 10:02

Zemethius wrote: Anyway, both may sound cheesy, but like you said, never judge a book by its cover and never judge a book on the title name. Shame you think those things but, hey, in this business the consumer is always right.

Or are they?...

I was just offering my advice as a book-buying member of the public. No need to get you knickers in a twist. Yes the consumer is always right if a person intends to market a product. I made the comment about not judging a book by its cover, unfortunetly we all do. I often by Star Trek books simply because they are Trek books. The content is often the worst tripe ever published. Then you have "The Neutronium Alchemist" not a great title, a bloody aweful piece of artwork on the cover, and it is the excellent midle book in one of the best trilogies written (Night's Dawn trilogy). But If I hadn't seen the 3rd book "The Naked God" with its amazing cover, I never would have bothered to find uot what the first 2 books were like. If you know what I mean from that rambling.

Look at the Flak George Lucas took from "The Phantom Menace". I know it didn't stop people going to see the film though. The title is what makes people stop and pick that one.

"X-Beyond The Frontier!" or "Space Trading Game!" Which one makes you sit up and take notice?

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Thu, 4. Nov 04, 23:11

Can't you guys take a slight bit of dodgy humour...
I was sort of hoping you wouldn't have that sort of reaction to my post, I just like rambling on...
Anyway, what would be your suggestion for the name? In fact, everyone come up with one if they want, at the end, though. Eighth chapter almost in completion. Let's see what you think of chapter 2. College internet is out which means you'll have to wait at least a day for your feedback to have any marked affect.
Still, no worries mate!

Jericho · Post by **Jericho** » Mon, 8. Nov 04, 12:10

Zemethius wrote:Can't you guys take a slight bit of dodgy humour...
I was sort of hoping you wouldn't have that sort of reaction to my post, I just like rambling on...
Anyway, what would be your suggestion for the name? In fact, everyone come up with one if they want, at the end, though. Eighth chapter almost in completion. Let's see what you think of chapter 2. College internet is out which means you'll have to wait at least a day for your feedback to have any marked affect.
Still, no worries mate!

Apols, I didn't read it as humour, which is ironic as I am the most sarcastic git on the planet.

As for a title, I don't know. e.g. I am currently working on 2 books also. 1 is called "Dyson's Legacy" and is set 25,000 years in the future. Sounds alot, but in all that time all humanity has done is expand. No technological advances really. THe title comes, not from a character in the book, but from Freeman Dyson, look him up on Google to see what I mean.

The other book is called "A Deeper Shade" and is about a Bose-Einstein Condensate. (You can look that one up too if you have 5 mins spare). Back in the 1980's scientists created the 'first' B-ECs, and then discovered that they had allready existed for over 2000 years in the 'impossible' colours called Han Purple and Han Blue. That is why it is called "A Deeper Shade". My book is based on those facts. Sounds dull, hopefully it won't be.

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Mon, 8. Nov 04, 20:02

Sarcasm is a beautiful art isn't it?

For the remaining parts I shan't be sarcastic, (gonna be tough, might slip in one or two). Dyson's Legacy, well so long as its not about the age of bag-free hoovers (sorry, just had to get that 1 in there.)
Question: Is the title 'Deeper Shade' supposed to convey a sort of darkness that humanity is in...
A deeper shade of purple perhaps, (sorry!)...

Not bad, only two sarcastic/ flippant remarks ina six and a half line post. A record.

Your books interest me, maybe the only reason is because I like to see what ideas are humming away in creative minds everywhere, or maybe because I see promise... Well, I do see promise. Inside every person is an artist (of some kind) waiting to be free.

Jericho · Post by **Jericho** » Thu, 11. Nov 04, 14:00

Zemethius wrote:Dyson's Legacy, well so long as its not about the age of bag-free hoovers (sorry, just had to get that 1 in there.)
Question: Is the title 'Deeper Shade' supposed to convey a sort of darkness that humanity is in...
A deeper shade of purple perhaps, (sorry!)...

Bag free hoovers? No, praise the lord. No cyclone technology involved.

As to A Deeper Shade, yes you have correctly grasped the double meaning. 2000 Years ago Purple was a very expensive and difficult colour to produce so only the emperors had it. The other people had to make do with burgandy a near-purple colour. a deeper shade if you will.

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Thu, 11. Nov 04, 23:17

See, even really sarcastic and opinionated teens can have their uses, and that was a pure guess. I was thinking along the lines of the band 'Deep Purple.' (Sorry... Please don't hurt me)...

Nice, what's the overview? Just the broad outline, cause I've tried to verbally explain the story of chapters one and two to some people of my novel, which is stored on a college laptop, all eight chapters, and those first two chapters took twenty minutes of my time to tell the 'overview.'

Jericho · Post by **Jericho** » Fri, 12. Nov 04, 12:13

"A Deeper Shade" is basically: Starts off in a contemporary setting. Basically, The Bad Guy (TBG) has discovered how to take advantage of quantum theory. Horribley simplistic terms: For every event that takes place (e.g. drawing a card at random) all events actually occur in different quantum universes. He is now 'selling' the possible outcomes of events to people who will then be living in their own new quantum universe, with that 'winning' outcome, while a duplicate 'should' also exist in the 'losing' quantum universe. But TBG is making so there is no duplicate person (if you follow my drift).

The Han Purple colour (a bose-einstein-condensate) is constructed entirly of identical atoms and so is faily unique in quantum terms (this is where the 'science' ends and the 'fiction' take over

) TBG is using it as a marker, to keep 1 universe (ours) as a baseline or template for his calulations. So no changes are ever made to our universe. But there is a contamination in ours (people who should not be here, e.g. our Hero, just an ordinary guy), and TBG is hunting them down and killing them all as they are screwing up his calculations.

Just like a grain of sand is a contaminant, an irritant to an oyster, it secreates its stuff all over it to make a pearl: There are various governments in other quantum universes that wish to stop TBG and need the help of these contaminants (our Hero).

Although throws in a bit of chaos theory: shows the massive changes that can occur from tiny desicions, but not in a crappy 'Sliders!' way, e.g. our Heros are not all evil world leaders in other universes like every episode of 'Sliders!'

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Fri, 12. Nov 04, 17:09

Let's hear about Dyson's Legacy then...

And I'll tell you about another novel of mine in the works...

Got to say it, 'A Deeper Shade' is sounding pretty cool, and I don't just mean the storyline...

But, until I read the full version, I'll never know the truth...

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Mon, 15. Nov 04, 23:47

Got another damn novel in the works, set in the X-Univers this time... It'll be a two book series, about an illicit group called the Gamers' Alliance. In the first book it starts off on an interview of the CEO of the reformed Gamers' Alliance... Slowly it turns into the entire story of the Gamers' Alliance, up to the premature betrayal and almost complete destruction of the group.
The second one starts off with this person trying to gain what he lost, which climaxes with a desperate bid for vengeance by the end, a bid which has been accepted...

The first book is called 'An Alliance Betrayed,' and the second is called 'Vengeance is Mine.' Both will be written once 'The Assassins Curse' stops being written...

Some time yet, then... One more thing: I require, desperately need feedback on the 3rd Chapter of the Assassins Curse, even if it just says nothing needs changing... Please give some feedback...

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Mon, 22. Nov 04, 12:32

Come on you guys, I want at least 70 people viewing my story before I give chapter 4.

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Thu, 25. Nov 04, 21:33

Come on you guys, all you've got to do is have 70 views on chapters 2 & 3 on Assassins Curse and you'll get 4, 5, 6 and 7 in one large package.

If Rusti doesn't get the copies first.

Urashima Keitaro · Post by **Urashima Keitaro** » Fri, 26. Nov 04, 14:23

It's amazing what can happen if you give people the INCENTIVE to do it.

Anyway, Chapters 4, 5, 6 and7 WILL be posted tonight. Look, I can't make the necessary changes in 10 minutes, I'm quite observant so that's impossible.

And I will be requesting ideas for a NEW chapter 8. The current one was based on a good idea, but its turned crap.

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