Yaki got destroyed, do they rebuild ?

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Yaki got destroyed, do they rebuild ?

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So, while i was busy with working paranid plot last mission, yaki base got destroyed by xenon and heart of a pirate failed. That's okay i can take that achievement from a different run.

The thing is, if i wipe xenon out from savage spur and it's matrixes. Will they rebuild their station with my builders, as builders have an option for that. They still buy ships from me which is nice.

Considering, i can't finish said mission, i can't make them a fully fledged faction, no ?
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No, it's almost the opposite. If the Yaki plot is not finished and if the Yaki HQ is destroyed then it will respawn (not rebuild) in a lesser format and allow you to continue the main Yaki plot. Once the Yaki plot is finished, if the Yaki HQ goes then it is gone for good.
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Re: Yaki got destroyed, do they rebuild ?

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Alan Phipps wrote: Wed, 23. Apr 25, 18:36 No, it's almost the opposite. If the Yaki plot is not finished and if the Yaki HQ is destroyed then it will respawn (not rebuild) in a lesser format and allow you to continue the main Yaki plot. Once the Yaki plot is finished, if the Yaki HQ goes then it is gone for good.
Oh, then it's gone sad :(. Alright Thnx for the help.
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After the plot they do still keep on trying to rebuild .. But I doubt they will be successful.

In my case, I got rid of all the neighbouring Xenon as part of the plot. But ZYA have now taken over all those sectors and Savage Spur, so they also kill YAK.
In a previous game ANT became dominant in all those sectors and did the same, wiped out YAK.
And in a previous game to that, TER Intervention fleet did the same and wiped out YAK.

I know the YAK do still try to rebuild, as I always see the following in the debug log ..

[General] 1169918.42 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 1169918.42 Context:md.FactionLogic.YakiFactionLogic_Manager.Find_Faction_Headquarters: No suitable location for Yaki HQ found!
[General] 1169918.42 ======================================

That error keeps coming back periodically. So the game is occasionally trying to re-establish them, but finds nowhere to do that.
It's like the whole X'verse is out to pound them in to space dust.
In my current game and previous game I used the "Save them from themselves" mission, and after Haille talks to the Yaki leader, and you get all the thank you loot, it seems a shame that they do not re-establish somewhere. They survived so long amid the Xenon, and after all your effort once free again .. Someone else will just steamroll over them.
I just make sure I get their blueprints, and get as many of them as I can as crew on my ships so they dont go extinct.

As you say though, when I get my PHQ to a stage where it can produce S/M ships, I get loads of orders for Kuraokami / Moreya from the Yaki (and as soon as they go out of the wharf the X'verse kills them) .. rinse and repeat, they seem to have an endless pot of credits even if they have no way to make them. Game magic :)
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[General] 1169918.42 ======================================
[=ERROR=] 1169918.42 Context:md.FactionLogic.YakiFactionLogic_Manager.Find_Faction_Headquarters: No suitable location for Yaki HQ found!
[General] 1169918.42 ======================================
I often read this error while modding.

For me it always looks like you need a certain faction that belongs to the sector to spawn certain faction stations.

That would be the Xenon.
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Re: Yaki got destroyed, do they rebuild ?

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If the Yaki get destroyed, we should get a player mission to rebuild their base. Similar to the BUC's,
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Tharrg wrote: Fri, 25. Apr 25, 13:07 If the Yaki get destroyed, we should get a player mission to rebuild their base. Similar to the BUC's,
Never got one for BUC/TEM. Do those really exist? 7.5 screwed them over in my current save.
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Re: Yaki got destroyed, do they rebuild ?

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Crimsonraziel wrote: Fri, 25. Apr 25, 15:19
Tharrg wrote: Fri, 25. Apr 25, 13:07 If the Yaki get destroyed, we should get a player mission to rebuild their base. Similar to the BUC's,
Never got one for BUC/TEM. Do those really exist? 7.5 screwed them over in my current save.
If you dont go down the TRI route for the Paraniid, you do get a mission branch that gets you building a station for BUC, who then become TEM on completion.
PAR tend to overwhelm The Dukes station initially, but unlike the Yaki, TEM persevere at rebuilding and moving to other sectors to re-establish themselves, even as far as Morning star (You help them build the first station and fleet in one of the Nopileous sectors).
Last time I did it I gave them a station with L and XL Fabs .. Its a bit of a balance though how much extra you give them in the station, too much and it takes too long to build/rebuild before PAR are ripping it to bits again, so recovery can take a long while for them.

I prefer keeping BUC as they are now, because when the Xenon are extinct, BUC never get any worse than -15, and they are a good source of drops for the in game mods.
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