Terran/Ant in Getsu Fune

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Terran/Ant in Getsu Fune

Post by vvvvvvvv »

In my game I noticed that TER and AND are trying to (out)murder each other in Getsu Fune.

However, this is a custom start, and story state is set to "Status Quo". Upon checking Terran relations, I'm even more confused, because TER are pink level enemies with everybody including Queendom of Borons. I think they only tolerate Teladi, but not Ministry of Finance.

I don't recall that happening before. Does it happen in everybody else's games?
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Re: Terran/Ant in Getsu Fune

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I don't think they normally fight there, just contest the system. But then I've never taken the Status Quo choice in that story either, only war or leaving it undone.

Could be that yours just ended up fighting by coincidence, though. Some interactions seem to lead that way, like for example a pirate disguises as the enemy of one faction who is neutral to another, gets killed, starts conflict.
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Re: Terran/Ant in Getsu Fune

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LameFox wrote: Sat, 5. Apr 25, 11:09 I don't think they normally fight there, just contest the system. But then I've never taken the Status Quo choice in that story either, only war or leaving it undone.

Could be that yours just ended up fighting by coincidence, though. Some interactions seem to lead that way, like for example a pirate disguises as the enemy of one faction who is neutral to another, gets killed, starts conflict.
Well, they're trying to blow up each other's stations and defense platoforms, ANT occasionally takes a shot at a TER Kyuushu building my base, and I think they may be trying to protect me from each other while guarding the Savage Spur gate.

I'm frankly confused, as I don't recall seeing this before. It also reminds me of recent thread about TEL fighting MIN.
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Re: Terran/Ant in Getsu Fune

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I don't think they go hostile to defend you from things they wouldn't otherwise attack, but they do sometimes send patrols to your property if your rep is high, so it could be that by doing that they're feeding more ships into the area which then keep getting the temp hostility refreshed.
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Re: Terran/Ant in Getsu Fune

Post by PV_ »

"pink level" starts at -10 reputation in the encyclopedia and it should correspond with colors on the map (if faction colors switched off) for the player. That is TER's initial relation with most factions.
Even allies (like MIN and TEL) start fighting sometimes for various reasons. It should end eventually, but may require a lot of time cuz hostility kind of self-sustaining thing because any shot back not only resets the timer but also provoke more military ships to participate in warfare.
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Re: Terran/Ant in Getsu Fune

Post by Blaze1st »

As a general rule they don't fight each other but you have to remember that due to the regular Xenon incursions, when you are in in system there, there is the chance for a friendly fire incident to initiate a chain reaction of hostilities.

There are often mixed TER/ANT fleets guarding Savage Spur for example, or perhaps even your own fleet too. On at least one occasion my own fleet has inadvetently aggroed an allied fleet by trying to shoot through them at Xenon in high attention...
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Re: Terran/Ant in Getsu Fune

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vvvvvvvv wrote: Sat, 5. Apr 25, 11:02 In my game I noticed that TER and AND are trying to (out)murder each other in Getsu Fune. ...
I don't recall that happening before. Does it happen in everybody else's games?
Getsu Fune starts the game as an unoccupied sector. There are three mutual enemies as neighbors, each of which desire to take it over. I can envision several scenarios where conflicts could start between TER and ANT: 'Friendly' fire incidents between ANT and TER when both are attacking XEN, or when XEN attack ANT or TER stations and both are firing at XEN. ANT and TER are mutual enemies so it wouldn't take much to set either off on the other, which could escalate into sector-wide conflict.
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