Timeslines missions in 7.5 question

[CLT113078]

7.5 with timelines?

Has anyone noitced some of the missions in timelines are much tougher/impossible to accomplish with 5 stars with the new flight control updates?

I noticed that in one of the suit missions (where you have to do 3 laps and shoot targets) I can't get 5 stars, let alone get even close to my previous best times/scores that I got pre 7.5?

I wonder if Egosoft will update/modify requirements to 5 star timeline missions to account for flight changes?

Thankfully I already go all 5 stars in the ships race missions so don't have to worry about those (I'm sure they are way tougher or even impossible to do now).

[PersonyPerson]

I would certainly agree it's harder to achieve the same scores when compared with pre-7.50. But it certainly is still possible to get 5 stars in every mission, even with the flight model changes.

There was one exception, "Bomb Amateur Disposal", where you couldn't get 5 stars because it was impossible to stay undetected. The changes made it so it was physically impossible to get past the Life Support fan motion sensor as the player in the spacesuit didn't have enough thrust, however that's been fixed in the 7.60 Beta.

The Spacesuit Bialthon is certainly still 5 star-able, though it may take several retries.

If there's a mission that you feel is genuinely impossible and that is reflected by the fact that nobody else can get 5 star scores, then feel free to post a bug report on that said specific mission.

[Feloidea]

Also experiencing the same issue, since I took a timeout for a while, waiting for 7.5 and a GPU upgrade. Continued with the missions are whilst I have no prevous experience with them it seems obvious that some missions were definately NOT designed with the since released new flightmodel in mind. Spacesuits in particular seem hit hard and unless I've got some funky early-onset nostalgia I'm pretty sure the sidestrafing for S ships is also noticably less useful. Currently pulling my hais out with the mission where you need to kill the L turrets on a Xenon defence station with a Pulsar. This would usually be of little problem as I used to just sidestep the shots via strafing thrusters, but now I seem to barely move when trying to do that and well ... the Xenon L turrets only need to hit me ONCE to nuke the squishy Pulsar.

Tried the mission a handful times now but each and everyone ended in failure and I've honestly got zero motivation trying to rinse and repeat this mission ad nauseam until I get lucky enough to evade every single of these shots for the duration of it.

If I were to suggest a potential fix for that mission in particular: just change the ship to something that can take one of those L Positron shots without instantly blowing up so players have at least some sort of safety margin.

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Yep, the new flightmodel DEFINATELY makes some of these missions much, MUCH more difficult. I just rolled back to 7.10 HF3 to test it out and the same mission was an absolute breeze to clear.

I wholeheartedly suggest the devs take a look at the Timelines missions to rebalance as needed in the wake of the flight model switch.

[PersonyPerson]

For whatever reason Defanging the Defence is either the easiest or hardest mission in the game depending on who you ask.

Defanging the Defence took me 3 tries on 7.50 before I completed it with 5 stars. Used the same strategy as I did in 7.00:
https://youtu.be/1e4i6ihlsFg

Only difference is that the Pulsar has a lot more driftiness to it and feels a bit more sluggish than before. Pressing W to move up, kill the turrets and then press S to move down in a quick hit and run x8 whilst hugging the Station's hull at the corners is still the way to go. Overall takes roughly 1 minute longer to complete, but again it's certainly not impossible.

A lot of missions post 7.50 are like this. Most of the strategies from before work fine, but it's just a bit slower to execute.

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I really should continue to work on my "How to 5 star every Timelines mission" guide, but I struggle severely with voice recordings. Have an entire script and video recordings of every mission (mostly from 7.10) ready to go and all I need to do is to assemble it together added with a couple of animations every now and then.

I would relegate it down to a simple text guide if I could, but I don't feel I can properly convey how to do a mission like Defanging the Defence (for example) properly without visual aids.

I'll try and get it done by the end of next month.

[BioVenom]

I really should continue to work on my "How to 5 star every Timelines mission" guide, but I struggle severely with voice recordings. Have an entire script and video recordings of every mission (mostly from 7.10) ready to go and all I need to do is to assemble it together added with a couple of animations every now and then.

I would relegate it down to a simple text guide if I could, but I don't feel I can properly convey how to do a mission like Defanging the Defence (for example) properly without visual aids.

I'll try and get it done by the end of next month.

There are many people wanting to complete these legitimately, and if someone was to put up a 'X4 Timelines 5 Stars Guide: <Scenario Name>' for each Scenario online (Youtube/Steam etc), it would be popular.

[Crimsonraziel]

I really should continue to work on my "How to 5 star every Timelines mission" guide, but I struggle severely with voice recordings.

Use AI Voice for that and let the Sohnen guide!