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Removed from 'I am starting to hate the new flight mechanics'

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vvvvvvvv wrote: Sat, 1. Mar 25, 04:12 Vessels' performance is handled by the instinct or, to be more precise through intuitive understanding. You intuitively learn how the thing handles, and handle it intuitively without thinking about it. Because logical reasoning is very slow. That's basically normal process with most games. You "get used" to a vehicle and drive it without worrying about parameters. Like walking, pretty much.

Real world does not operate under newtonian but under Einsteinian physics. The game, however, is newtonian. F = ma. It is just it adds few extra F to make handling manageable. As most space games do. Again see the document from the announcement. It explains both reasoning and mentions that the game is newtonian.
Do some research, and you'll realize that walking isn't as simple as it seems. If you're young, it's best to correct your understanding early—or even consult a therapist if necessary.

The real world doesn't "follow" a specific set of physics; rather, humans use different frameworks to describe it. Relativistic mechanics explains certain phenomena better than Newtonian mechanics, but that doesn't mean one is the absolute truth. If you believe boost, travel drive, and all those odd friction mechanics follow Newtonian mechanics, you're free to think so.
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Re: I'm not happy with the Flight model change.

Post by vvvvvvvv »

flywlyx wrote: Sat, 1. Mar 25, 06:06 Do some research, and ...
Yes, I'm aware of Moravec's paradox, thank you very much. It is very nice of you to assume I lack understanding on this matter.

Walking isn't simple physically but it is handled intuitively by your less conscious part of the brain, and you do not logically need to calculate parameters of every muscle movement. Same deal with flying. Trying to understand coefficient is not useful, because the model is not set in stone, as demonstrated by the recent update. The designer may ditch them all, and then it'll be all for nothing.

I would recommend to avoid trying personal jabs in forum interactions. It is more useful, in general, to stick to dealing with arguments and points made without personal attacks, even if they're gift wrapped. One reason for that is that this is simply more efficient, as people will simply begin ignoring ALL points made by someone who is trying to make "therapy" arguments. The "therapy" advice and "do some research" fills statement with noise which needs to be filtered out first in order to see if you actually have made a statement worth reasoning with. Filtering this stuff is time consuming, not entertaining and creates negative impression of the community on the forums. It is often more interesting to deal with ideas, rather than trying to separate ideas from what may be someone's ego acting up.

Have a nice day.
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Re: I'm not happy with the Flight model change.

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vvvvvvvv wrote: Sat, 1. Mar 25, 06:26 Yes, I'm aware of Moravec's paradox, thank you very much. It is very nice of you to assume I lack understanding on this matter.

Walking isn't simple physically but it is handled intuitively by your less conscious part of the brain, and you do not logically need to calculate parameters of every muscle movement. Same deal with flying. Trying to understand coefficient is not useful, because the model is not set in stone, as demonstrated by the recent update. The designer may ditch them all, and then it'll be all for nothing.
No, you’re misunderstanding again. I’m simply pointing out that it’s completely normal for instinct to be inaccurate or even harmful. The way the brain works or how to walk correctly isn’t the topic here.

If you think it's useless, then simply ignore it—no one is forcing you to understand it. The point is they should not hiding these information.
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Re: Removed from 'I am starting to hate the new flight mechanics'

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A pointless off topic argument started because of comments that were, or could easily be considered as, personal. Please avoid such situations.
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