[7->7.10] Since 7.0 - Teuta cannot be assigned as a scrap metal collector to any station. - Explained

[RomanKost]

Hello Egosoft, well the issue is quite simple. Starting with version 7.0, Teuta cannot be assigned to the role of a scrap metal collector. There is not even an option when aiming at a station. Before 7.0, this problem did not arise. At the same time, the ship can still process scrap metal without any problems without assigning it to the station. I will say more, when trying to assign it to an already created group with Manticore, Teuta is automatically assigned to the station's defense.

[CBJ]

Please provide the information requested in the very first thread at the top of the forum. At the very least we will need to know whether or not your game is modified, and if it's not modified then we will need to see a savegame demonstrating the problem.

[RomanKost]

Sure. My game is not modified and will never be modified. I still expect and hope for a return of ventures in one form or another. My current save - https://1drv.ms/u/c/3ed4712cbac61265/EX ... A?e=Wx3Hud

P.S. I would add the file directly, but there is simply no attachments option.

[Ketraar]

Teuta is not a collector ship, it breaks down large scrap wrecks into cubes which then a Manticore can pick up.

MFG

Ketraar

[RomanKost]

Teuta is not a collector ship, it breaks down large scrap wrecks into cubes which then a Manticore can pick up.

MFG

Ketraar

I know, but before (in 6.2) you can assign it in a same group as a Manticore. So they will work at the same time (in a same "role" group). Now - the option is not even there. And if tou try to assign it in a same group with a Manticore - it automaticly assigned to "Defence". So \_(O_o)_/?

[Ketraar]

That doesn't sound right, as mentioned the Teuta would not be able to do scrap deliveries. It has a Salvage at position option and a AutoSalvage BEHAVIOUR, there is no salvage for commander option for it as it cant do it. You can use mimin commander option but that will return an error, since, again, it cant perform that.

MFG

Ketraar

[RomanKost]

Well, it was working as i described before 7.0. And it was far more convenient, you could assign Teutas and several Manticores to a station with a processing module and it worked perfectly. Teutas salvage, Manticores - delivered to the station. And it was working.

[JasonX2000]

Sorry, but i had an Teuta since release of Avarice DLC and the Teuta could not salvage for station then too that is not a 7.0 thing. Thats a by design thing from begin with. I had the same problem that the teuta was a single ship flying around and i was desperatly trying to get it to work under a commanding station. But it only is producing scrap cubes by itself without commander, that cubes are even not reserved for you but every manticore of other factions in sector can catch them away of you.
So i never build a second Teuta because that ship never pays back if there are npc teutas in 5 sectors doing the same thing.

[Alan Phipps]

@ RomanKost: You can indeed assign Teutas to the 'salvage' role group under the command of a scrap processing station manager alongside your Manticores; all ships in the group will have the same 'auto-salvage' default behaviour from that assignment.

However, the Teutas' orders will be 'find/dismantle wreck' from the 'recycle' current command, unlike those for the Manticores in the group which will be 'collect/deliver salvage' using various navigation current commands - and all derived from the same default behaviour. As said above, Teutas just find and break up big wrecks into cubes, and that's all they have ever done. It's the Manticores that do the collecting and delivery of cubes and smaller wrecks.

I think the confusion may have come from them having the same default behaviour in the same salvage group, but the Teutas and Manticores using different orders and current commands as appropriate to their different roles.

[RomanKost]

@ RomanKost: You can indeed assign Teutas to the 'salvage' role group under the command of a scrap processing station manager alongside your Manticores; all ships in the group will have the same 'auto-salvage' default behaviour from that assignment.

However, the Teutas' orders will be 'find/dismantle wreck' from the 'recycle' current command, unlike those for the Manticores in the group which will be 'collect/deliver salvage' using various navigation current commands - and all derived from the same default behaviour. As said above, Teutas just find and break up big wrecks into cubes, and that's all they have ever done. It's the Manticores that do the collecting and delivery of cubes and smaller wrecks.

I think the confusion may have come from them having the same default behaviour in the same salvage group, but the Teutas and Manticores using different orders and current commands as appropriate to their different roles.

You can explain the difference between ships to me as many times as you want. I already know it after 900+ hours spent in the game. There is no confusion, never was. The problem is "You can indeed assign Teutas to the 'salvage' role group under the command of a scrap processing station manager alongside your Manticores" - but you can't anymore. Thats the problem. When i try to do so (manualy assign Teuta to same role group as Manticore) - Teuta goes to "Station deffence". => That is the problem here. It just don't goes there anymore. And it started after 7.0 release. You can take my current save unde a link above and try if you want. Then you'll understand what i mean.

[Ketraar]

This is not a discussion forum sorry. The issue has been raised and explanation has been given. There is no bug, even if it were the case that you could have had assigned a Teuta to "salvage for commander" (which you could not!), that would have been a bug.

As such this issue is resolved and we dont need to discuss it anymore, thank you.

MFG

Ketraar

[Alan Phipps]

OK, I have done some further research and I know what is happening now.

If you try to assign just Teutas only to a scrap processing station then the 'salvage for commander' option does not come up - probably because it is considered that the scrap cannot be recovered to the station by Teutas alone. If you assign a new group including both Teutas and Manticores then the 'salvage for' option is available and you would have a workable salvaging to station group set-up in place.

The bug confirmed is that you cannot add Teutas alone as a salvage assignment to either a new group or to an existing group of Manticores, but you can add a mix of Teutas and Manticores for salvage assignment as a new group.

[r1Iz!G+,15g$]

If you try to assign just Teutas only to a scrap processing station then the 'salvage for commander' option does not come up - probably because it is considered that the scrap cannot be recovered to the station by Teutas alone.

If you assign a new group including both Teutas and Manticores then the 'salvage for' option is available and you would have a workable salvaging to station group set-up in place.

Tnx mate, this answer clarified a lot

Another solution is not to assign the Teuta to the station, but to manually find a fragments and issue a repeated command to extract the fragments. in this case, the station still has free slots for assigned ships (of which there are 256 in total), to which more manticores can be assigned