Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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I just claimed the Odachi in the open universe, but it has no weapons or turrets.

Is there normal? Or do I have to research the blueprints and build an equipement dock to be able to use the Odachi?

No mods btw.

Didn't know if this was intended or not, so I wanted to ask here before making a bug report.
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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I think that with all Timeliens ships (e.g. Terran, Terraformer and racing ships) you need to do the research and own your wharf/shipyard/equpment dock to fill all their equipment/loadouts.
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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I don't know if it's just in my save, but when you capture a ship using the space suit and decoding the signal outside the ship it comes with some weapons, but when I try to use the capture ship function by selecting it with the right button and sending a When the boarding capsule is captured, I see several animations and modules on the surface being destroyed in addition to the ship taking damage to the hull. (sorry for my English, I'm Brazilian and used Google Translate :oops: )
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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louco520 wrote: Sun, 30. Jun 24, 20:12 I don't know if it's just in my save, but when you capture a ship using the space suit and decoding the signal outside the ship it comes with some weapons, but when I try to use the capture ship function by selecting it with the right button and sending a When the boarding capsule is captured, I see several animations and modules on the surface being destroyed in addition to the ship taking damage to the hull. (sorry for my English, I'm Brazilian and used Google Translate :oops: )
That must have been it. I capture the other ships myself but this one I sent a boarding team. Oh well, I'll know for next time.
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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louco520 wrote: Sun, 30. Jun 24, 20:12 I don't know if it's just in my save, but when you capture a ship using the space suit and decoding the signal outside the ship it comes with some weapons, but when I try to use the capture ship function by selecting it with the right button and sending a When the boarding capsule is captured, I see several animations and modules on the surface being destroyed in addition to the ship taking damage to the hull. (sorry for my English, I'm Brazilian and used Google Translate :oops: )
You mean the "Claim" in the right-click menu? I've never noticed any difference in claiming it with the spacesuit and sending a marine. When it's a L/XL ship we're boarding, of course, there is damage being done to the ship, but S/M?

But anyway, the research for Odachi in the research tab (which appears as reward too) also unlocks its weapons, engines and shields. The unlocks are:
  • TER M Frontier Shield Generator Mk1
  • TER M Frontier Engine MK1
  • TER M Electromagnetic Cannon Mk1
  • TER M Electromagnetic Turret Mk1
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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MakerLinux wrote: Mon, 1. Jul 24, 03:24
louco520 wrote: Sun, 30. Jun 24, 20:12 I don't know if it's just in my save, but when you capture a ship using the space suit and decoding the signal outside the ship it comes with some weapons, but when I try to use the capture ship function by selecting it with the right button and sending a When the boarding capsule is captured, I see several animations and modules on the surface being destroyed in addition to the ship taking damage to the hull. (sorry for my English, I'm Brazilian and used Google Translate :oops: )
You mean the "Claim" in the right-click menu? I've never noticed any difference in claiming it with the spacesuit and sending a marine. When it's a L/XL ship we're boarding, of course, there is damage being done to the ship, but S/M?

But anyway, the research for Odachi in the research tab (which appears as reward too) also unlocks its weapons, engines and shields. The unlocks are:
  • TER M Frontier Shield Generator Mk1
  • TER M Frontier Engine MK1
  • TER M Electromagnetic Cannon Mk1
  • TER M Electromagnetic Turret Mk1
Yes, that is what I mean.

I have the engine and shield, but no weapons or turrets.

The trouble is that even if I do research it, I'm going to have to wait until I make hundreds of millions to be able to afford the blueprint for an equipement dock. So I'm forced to park the Odachi for the foreseeable future, which is really disappointing.
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

Post by solardawning »

The Odachi derelict is fully equipped. To be extra clear, you caused it to lose equipment by using a Marine to claim it. That destroys random equipment on the target ship. Higher skilled marines destroy less equipment.

If you had claimed it manually from your spacesuit by scanning the data leak by the airlock, it would have retained all of its equipment.
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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Yes I know that now. That was my mistake, but what I'm pointing out is that, for the Timelines ships, the cost of this mistake is very high.

Any normal abandonned ship that I had made this mistake on, it would be fine. I could send them to any equipement dock and re-outfit them.

But with the Odachi, my mistake now means that the ship is basically useless until I get my own equipement dock.
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

Post by Vertigo 7 »

well there's another negative as well... some of the ships can have weapons you can't currently replace no matter what you do. For example, the Cutlass derelict comes with 2 HEPT guns but you can only build them with EM guns. Unless there's a HEPT blueprint somewhere I'm missing.
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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It's been part of the game since day 1, that claiming with marine will end up in some damage to hull and module destruction. If you need zero damage, claim with your space suit.
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

Post by Jarclan »

I know this now. Only wish I had known it sooner.

It's exactly why I posted here first instead of in the tech forum. I'm not so arrogant as to assume that something is a bug when the most likely explanation is that I'm an idiot hahahaha

I do still think that, for the timelines ship, this behavior is substantially more punishing to the player than with regular ships. A regular ship that gets its equipment destroyed can be reequiped at an NPC equipment dock. A timelines ship that losses its equipment is essentially useless until I can build my own equipment dock.

Again, not faulting anyone other than myself. I'll take it as a lesson learned.
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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Does a spacesuit claimed odachi come with all its equipment? Because I don’t think the Sapporo does, and the frontier ships being stuck as paperweights until you get a shipyard seems kinda unfriendly for players
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Re: Is the Odachi supposed to come with weapons?

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soladept wrote: Wed, 3. Jul 24, 17:39 Does a spacesuit claimed odachi come with all its equipment? Because I don’t think the Sapporo does, and the frontier ships being stuck as paperweights until you get a shipyard seems kinda unfriendly for players
Yes, if you claim it by scanning the data leak yourself, everything on the ship remains. It's only the marine cutting the hull to claim it that randomly damage/destroy equipment.

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