When does timelines Facility/Sohnen plot takes place?

[unknown1]

So, after finishing all the timelines and finding that there is a Sohnen behind it all, i'm left with more questions.

The game initially implies that we go BACK in time to replay some important events in history, to what purpose, i don't know, it's not clear .

The end of timelines implies that actually,all the pilots were not rescued from present time(X4 era) but are just clones or something with fake memories.

Moreover,the Sohnen says that someone or Something just openned a gate?

What the hell is this all about? Maybe i'm just too
dumb.

[Tanall]

The Sohnen are predicting the future via statistical extrapolation. The time you spend inside the facility is in the distant past, around the time Japan built the Terran jumpgate, and all the 'present' missions are from their extrapolations.

[PersonyPerson]

It's funny, because the game leads you into believing that you've gone back in time from the present in X4 and that the MD is lying and hiding something.

But the MD tells you near the start of the DLC that you're in the year 2042 and he is telling the truth. They have been predicting the future from that timeframe and you are part of the experiment. The Facility is in the real in-game universe. The Open Universe is the real in-game universe. The Scenarios and recruitment missions in Timelines (including for the player) are not. Timelines is a prequel.

It's set 1 year after the Humans built their first jump gate and interacted with a network of gates intended for the other races in the gate network. Not Humans. This disrupted the gate builders plans. They needed to know what was going on and what was likely to happen, and how compatible humanity was with the other species they planned to study. So they sent the Sohnen, built the Facility, built synthetic constructs and gave them personalities based on their very advanced future predicting algorithms.

The recruitment missions are not really recruitment missions as such. None of the individuals in the facility are actually alive. You're not going forward or backward in time. They're pausing a scenario in their algorithm to get consented personalities in their predictive scenarios and then transferring them into the synthetic bodies. It's very much like The Matrix in "The Matrix" franchise. Neo started off as an algorithm, a personality within the Matrix. After the real humans tracked him down for being anomalous and discovered him, they extracted him from it after getting his consent and transported him into a real organic body in the real universe. The Sohnen probably did this because of what happened with Mitsuno. They had no recruiters then, less data about Humans to work with and probably picked her at random as a starting template and it backfired. The player (I think) is the 5th or 6th personality to be created (after the characters in bedroom area 1). So you start very early on in the experiments, but you're not there to witness the events that started it all off.

Tammancktall I think was a test to see how humans would respond to a religious cult forming around them. Notice how no humans joined the "Guardians of Destiny" group? The other group (Kaori Chen's Quettanauts) also developed. Eventually these 2 groups seem to have mixed and became the dominant force when they imported real individuals into their system. So the Quettanauts faction in the Open Universe (This is what the Sohnen are talking about when a gate is opened) are a religiously based society and treat Kaori Chen as their sacred figure, because she is I think the last individual from the Facility who is still alive 900 years into the future. I personally think that the Sohnen deleted all the synthetics when they were done with the experiments, but Kaori Chen was faulty (in the same way where overclocking a PC makes that PC more prone to faults) and her teleportation device didn't work, so they couldn't extract her with the others and was left behind.

[Spectre01]

It's funny, because the game leads you into believing that you've gone back in time from the present in X4 and that the MD is lying and hiding something.

But the MD tells you near the start of the DLC that you're in the year 2042 and he is telling the truth. They have been predicting the future from that timeframe and you are part of the experiment. The Facility is in the real in-game universe. The Open Universe is the real in-game universe. The Scenarios and recruitment missions in Timelines (including for the player) are not. Timelines is a prequel.

It's set 1 year after the Humans built their first jump gate and interacted with a network of gates intended for the other races in the gate network. Not Humans. This disrupted the gate builders plans. They needed to know what was going on and what was likely to happen, and how compatible humanity was with the other species they planned to study. So they sent the Sohnen, built the Facility, built synthetic constructs and gave them personalities based on their very advanced future predicting algorithms.

The recruitment missions are not really recruitment missions as such. None of the individuals in the facility are actually alive. You're not going forward or backward in time. They're pausing a scenario in their algorithm to get consented personalities in their predictive scenarios and then transferring them into the synthetic bodies. It's very much like The Matrix in "The Matrix" franchise. Neo started off as an algorithm, a personality within the Matrix. After the real humans tracked him down for being anomalous and discovered him, they extracted him from it after getting his consent and transported him into a real organic body in the real universe. The Sohnen probably did this because of what happened with Mitsuno. They had no recruiters then, less data about Humans to work with and probably picked her at random as a starting template and it backfired. The player (I think) is the 5th or 6th personality to be created (after the characters in bedroom area 1). So you start very early on in the experiments, but you're not there to witness the events that started it all off.

Tammancktall I think was a test to see how humans would respond to a religious cult forming around them. Notice how no humans joined the "Guardians of Destiny" group? The other group (Kaori Chen's Quettanauts) also developed. Eventually these 2 groups seem to have mixed and became the dominant force when they imported real individuals into their system. So the Quettanauts faction in the Open Universe (This is what the Sohnen are talking about when a gate is opened) are a religiously based society and treat Kaori Chen as their sacred figure, because she is I think the last individual from the Facility who is still alive 900 years into the future. I personally think that the Sohnen deleted all the synthetics when they were done with the experiments, but Kaori Chen was faulty (in the same way where overclocking a PC makes that PC more prone to faults) and her teleportation device didn't work, so they couldn't extract her with the others and was left behind.

I don't think Kaori Chen was "faulty". Herself said Sohnem gave her and others a choice at the end of their experiment whether to remain in real world or been deleted. And those who chose to remain in real world did died one by one due to various reason (a lot could happen in those 900 years).

[PersonyPerson]

I don't think Kaori Chen was "faulty". Herself said Sohnem gave her and others a choice at the end of their experiment whether to remain in real world or been deleted. And those who chose to remain in real world did died one by one due to various reason (a lot could happen in those 900 years).

Yes. You are correct. I forgot and misremembered the details of that scene.

[Virtualaughing]

x3 Reunion missions around south of Home of Light. Ore belt? So "there is that ship again"... Literally when I started the missions of Timelines facility that was my first thought.

[Abbat76]

It's funny, because the game leads you into believing that you've gone back in time from the present in X4 and that the MD is lying and hiding something.

But the MD tells you near the start of the DLC that you're in the year 2042 and he is telling the truth. They have been predicting the future from that timeframe and you are part of the experiment. The Facility is in the real in-game universe. The Open Universe is the real in-game universe. The Scenarios and recruitment missions in Timelines (including for the player) are not. Timelines is a prequel.

It's set 1 year after the Humans built their first jump gate and interacted with a network of gates intended for the other races in the gate network. Not Humans. This disrupted the gate builders plans. They needed to know what was going on and what was likely to happen, and how compatible humanity was with the other species they planned to study. So they sent the Sohnen, built the Facility, built synthetic constructs and gave them personalities based on their very advanced future predicting algorithms.

The recruitment missions are not really recruitment missions as such. None of the individuals in the facility are actually alive. You're not going forward or backward in time. They're pausing a scenario in their algorithm to get consented personalities in their predictive scenarios and then transferring them into the synthetic bodies. It's very much like The Matrix in "The Matrix" franchise. Neo started off as an algorithm, a personality within the Matrix. After the real humans tracked him down for being anomalous and discovered him, they extracted him from it after getting his consent and transported him into a real organic body in the real universe. The Sohnen probably did this because of what happened with Mitsuno. They had no recruiters then, less data about Humans to work with and probably picked her at random as a starting template and it backfired. The player (I think) is the 5th or 6th personality to be created (after the characters in bedroom area 1). So you start very early on in the experiments, but you're not there to witness the events that started it all off.

Tammancktall I think was a test to see how humans would respond to a religious cult forming around them. Notice how no humans joined the "Guardians of Destiny" group? The other group (Kaori Chen's Quettanauts) also developed. Eventually these 2 groups seem to have mixed and became the dominant force when they imported real individuals into their system. So the Quettanauts faction in the Open Universe (This is what the Sohnen are talking about when a gate is opened) are a religiously based society and treat Kaori Chen as their sacred figure, because she is I think the last individual from the Facility who is still alive 900 years into the future. I personally think that the Sohnen deleted all the synthetics when they were done with the experiments, but Kaori Chen was faulty (in the same way where overclocking a PC makes that PC more prone to faults) and her teleportation device didn't work, so they couldn't extract her with the others and was left behind.

I don't think Kaori Chen was "faulty". Herself said Sohnem gave her and others a choice at the end of their experiment whether to remain in real world or been deleted. And those who chose to remain in real world did died one by one due to various reason (a lot could happen in those 900 years).

In my game, after talking with Sonen, I find myself on board the station again. There are no other dialogues, except for a few phrases from the split about how her friend was created in order to prevent such a phenomenon as Mitsuni. There is no escape or anything that you are talking about. I've never seen Chen. I have no idea how all this works for you, but my game is clearly broken.

[PersonyPerson]

It's funny, because the game leads you into believing that you've gone back in time from the present in X4 and that the MD is lying and hiding something.

But the MD tells you near the start of the DLC that you're in the year 2042 and he is telling the truth. They have been predicting the future from that timeframe and you are part of the experiment. The Facility is in the real in-game universe. The Open Universe is the real in-game universe. The Scenarios and recruitment missions in Timelines (including for the player) are not. Timelines is a prequel.

It's set 1 year after the Humans built their first jump gate and interacted with a network of gates intended for the other races in the gate network. Not Humans. This disrupted the gate builders plans. They needed to know what was going on and what was likely to happen, and how compatible humanity was with the other species they planned to study. So they sent the Sohnen, built the Facility, built synthetic constructs and gave them personalities based on their very advanced future predicting algorithms.

The recruitment missions are not really recruitment missions as such. None of the individuals in the facility are actually alive. You're not going forward or backward in time. They're pausing a scenario in their algorithm to get consented personalities in their predictive scenarios and then transferring them into the synthetic bodies. It's very much like The Matrix in "The Matrix" franchise. Neo started off as an algorithm, a personality within the Matrix. After the real humans tracked him down for being anomalous and discovered him, they extracted him from it after getting his consent and transported him into a real organic body in the real universe. The Sohnen probably did this because of what happened with Mitsuno. They had no recruiters then, less data about Humans to work with and probably picked her at random as a starting template and it backfired. The player (I think) is the 5th or 6th personality to be created (after the characters in bedroom area 1). So you start very early on in the experiments, but you're not there to witness the events that started it all off.

Tammancktall I think was a test to see how humans would respond to a religious cult forming around them. Notice how no humans joined the "Guardians of Destiny" group? The other group (Kaori Chen's Quettanauts) also developed. Eventually these 2 groups seem to have mixed and became the dominant force when they imported real individuals into their system. So the Quettanauts faction in the Open Universe (This is what the Sohnen are talking about when a gate is opened) are a religiously based society and treat Kaori Chen as their sacred figure, because she is I think the last individual from the Facility who is still alive 900 years into the future. I personally think that the Sohnen deleted all the synthetics when they were done with the experiments, but Kaori Chen was faulty (in the same way where overclocking a PC makes that PC more prone to faults) and her teleportation device didn't work, so they couldn't extract her with the others and was left behind.

I don't think Kaori Chen was "faulty". Herself said Sohnem gave her and others a choice at the end of their experiment whether to remain in real world or been deleted. And those who chose to remain in real world did died one by one due to various reason (a lot could happen in those 900 years).

In my game, after talking with Sonen, I find myself on board the station again. There are no other dialogues, except for a few phrases from the split about how her friend was created in order to prevent such a phenomenon as Mitsuni. There is no escape or anything that you are talking about. I've never seen Chen. I have no idea how all this works for you, but my game is clearly broken.

I don't think your game is broken.

Kaori Chen is the person who you recruited in the Graph 3 mission. It seems you've done everything in the Facility, but there's a bit more lore content in the main game (Open Universe) that adds does a bit more to explain the link between the Sohnen, The Facility and the main universe. That's probably what you're missing and the source of your confusion.