Xenon do not build their planned defense station

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Xenon do not build their planned defense station

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Save: https://file.io/cYAAnyYaMjX9

Go to Litany of Fury IX. You will see a plot for a Xenon defense station that has been there for several in-game days. However, the Xenon never actually build it. It is not a matter of missing resources, since they keep sending large fleets into Wretched Skies V Family Phi. I have been working hard to cultivate a Xenon presence in this corner of the universe (without directly attacking the Paranid), so to then see this bug prevent that is very discouraging.
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Re: Xenon do not build their planned defense station

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I'm observing this behavior as well, although in a different sector and with DLCs disabled.
In this savegame, XEN refuse to build their station in Frontier Edge.

Instead, they send all of their ships, crucial transports included, into The Void and Second Contact,
where they will of course run into ARG/ANT/HOP patrols. This is intended to some extent from what I read,
but indefinitely ignoring their defence station in a free in-between sector doesn't seem right.

This issue seems to have come up recently, either with 6.00 or one of the hotfixes.

Version and Language: 6.00 (499061) English / DLCs Disabled
Modified or Vanilla: Vanilla
Game Start: Custom Game Editor (Budgeted)
Savegame Download: Google Drive

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Abandoned XEN Defence Platform in Frontier Edge
XEN ships at the western gate in Second Contact
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Re: Xenon do not build their planned defense station

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Is that same or different than what is described in [#1116] viewtopic.php?f=180&t=455267
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Re: Xenon do not build their planned defense station

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I've seen the same happen in Fires of Defeat in two different games.

Station totally invisible,I guess because it never starts actually being built. They fill the build supply and then just get stuck. Interestingly if I destroy the build supply, Xenon traders come swarming in to restock it.

Can you guys check if they also fill the build supply in your games? Then it might not be a problem with the traders but something else.
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Re: Xenon do not build their planned defense station

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jlehtone wrote: Sun, 18. Jun 23, 10:24 Is that same or different than what is described in [#1116] viewtopic.php?f=180&t=455267
It appears to be the same issue, at least in later replies in there. Probably better to track it there since it already has a ticket number.
Although it looks like #1317 viewtopic.php?f=180&t=455992 describes this issue as well.
Vheissu wrote: Sun, 18. Jun 23, 16:00 Can you guys check if they also fill the build supply in your games? Then it might not be a problem with the traders but something else.
They do fill the build supply on occasion, but not with all three materials - mostly Energy Cells it seems.
If I destroy the 15% station plot XEN respawns it eventually, as usual. But they just get stuck with the same issue again.
Not enough ressources delivered to continue building, and the miners just pass by to get destroyed in ANT space.
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Re: Xenon do not build their planned defense station

Post by LandogarX4 »

If this cannot be addressed without potentially making the simulation unstable (i.e. Xenon spreading excessively), please consider giving players the tools to fix it themselves:

Introduce a ship modification that allows the affected ship to trade with Xenon stations (and be recognized as their own by Xenon, similar to the Yaki). That way players can strengthen Xenon if and where they want, and fix stuck construction, without causing balancing headaches.
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Re: Xenon do not build their planned defense station

Post by LandogarX4 »

Will this bug ever be addressed? It is not fixed as of the 7.0 beta.
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Re: Xenon do not build their planned defense station

Post by CBJ »

This report seems to have slipped through the net; sorry about that. Can you confirm that the savegame you provided in the first post still exhibits this issue over a period of time, not just immediately after loading it? If so then let me know and I'll move this thread over there so that it will be more likely to be "processed". Alternatively if you have a more recent savegame made with the latest Public Beta version, could you post a new report with that save in the Public Beta Feedback forum.
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Re: Xenon do not build their planned defense station

Post by LandogarX4 »

Thanks, I loaded the save in the current beta and let it run for a while. The problem persists, so I shall make a new thread in the Beta forum.

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