Is it no longer profitable to sell nividium in shipyards?

[Raposus]

I'm trying to sell in an Argon shipyard a Mistral with all the updates, and about 700 units of nividium in the load and they only give me 2750000 Cr. I saw videos where they made fortunes with similar transactions. Was there any modification in the last update?

[Midnightknight]

It never really was. Using this trick is only when you mine too many nividum that you can't sell it any other way. Around PTNI HQ for example there are already a lot of nividium being produced and you will hardly be able to sell it, so using this trick is great.

However now i'm near unseen domain and i mined a lot of Nvidium, so much that i sold a super transporter XL full of it (around 2500 units if i remember) and it made a lot of money, but then i realized stocking it in my HQ and selling it 15500 cr/unit many traders came and bought it. In fact they buy it so fast i'm almost always at 0 in the PHQ, so i just stopped using this technique cause i was loosing too much profits.

Keep in mind when you sell a ship it's bought back by the shipyard a lot below it's value, and the same happens with everything inside of it.

[Raposus]

It never really was. Using this trick is only when you mine too many nividum that you can't sell it any other way. Around PTNI HQ for example there are already a lot of nividium being produced and you will hardly be able to sell it, so using this trick is great.

However now i'm near unseen domain and i mined a lot of Nvidium, so much that i sold a super transporter XL full of it (around 2500 units if i remember) and it made a lot of money, but then i realized stocking it in my HQ and selling it 15500 cr/unit many traders came and bought it. In fact they buy it so fast i'm almost always at 0 in the PHQ, so i just stopped using this technique cause i was loosing too much profits.

Keep in mind when you sell a ship it's bought back by the shipyard a lot below it's value, and the same happens with everything inside of it.

I'll try to put it up for sale at the Hub station. My HQ is still in the same place and there isn't much trade there.Thanks for the tip.

[Betelgeuse97]

Keep in mind when you sell a ship it's bought back by the shipyard a lot below it's value, and the same happens with everything inside of it.

If I recall correctly (and if it's the same in FL), when you sell a ship, you get up to 2/3 of the price you would pay for buying that ship at the shipyard. The contents inside are sold for 90% of their value.

[Midnightknight]

Keep in mind when you sell a ship it's bought back by the shipyard a lot below it's value, and the same happens with everything inside of it.

If I recall correctly (and if it's the same in FL), when you sell a ship, you get up to 2/3 of the price you would pay for buying that ship at the shipyard. The contents inside are sold for 90% of their value.

It's clearly not 90% of what is inside. I sold a few ships with stuff inside. I think it's more 2/3 the base price. Or it's 90% of minimum price, but not average price.

[Ramdat]

A completely empty Demeter (no software, etc) sells for 106,051. A new Demeter costs 189,915. So, it is sold for approximately 56% of it's value.

Higher notoriety increases the sell price of the ship, but not the wares. For example, it is 106,051 at level 3, but 131,083 at level 10. So, max rank increases the ship sell price to about 69%.

The same Demeter full of Nividium (625 units) sells for 1,617,926. The difference between this value and the empty ship value is 1,511,875.

The minimum price for Nividium is 8064, but the above values indicates that they are sold at 2419 (1,511,875/625). So, wares in a ship when sold at a shipyard appear to be sold at 30% of their minimum value, or 15% of their average value.

[Raposus]

It never really was. Using this trick is only when you mine too many nividum that you can't sell it any other way. Around PTNI HQ for example there are already a lot of nividium being produced and you will hardly be able to sell it, so using this trick is great.

However now i'm near unseen domain and i mined a lot of Nvidium, so much that i sold a super transporter XL full of it (around 2500 units if i remember) and it made a lot of money, but then i realized stocking it in my HQ and selling it 15500 cr/unit many traders came and bought it. In fact they buy it so fast i'm almost always at 0 in the PHQ, so i just stopped using this technique cause i was loosing too much profits.

Keep in mind when you sell a ship it's bought back by the shipyard a lot below it's value, and the same happens with everything inside of it.

Where is your HQ?

[Hwitvlf]

Thank you for doing the math Ramdat; I was wondering about the specifics. That's quite a markdown!

Midnightknight's method is probably best, but sometimes I fill the cargohold of TS ships used for 'deliver ship' missions. I haven't tested in FL, but in AP I believe they paid average value for goods in the hold - also a good way to get decent money for Turbo modules on captured ships.

[Midnightknight]

It never really was. Using this trick is only when you mine too many nividum that you can't sell it any other way. Around PTNI HQ for example there are already a lot of nividium being produced and you will hardly be able to sell it, so using this trick is great.

However now i'm near unseen domain and i mined a lot of Nvidium, so much that i sold a super transporter XL full of it (around 2500 units if i remember) and it made a lot of money, but then i realized stocking it in my HQ and selling it 15500 cr/unit many traders came and bought it. In fact they buy it so fast i'm almost always at 0 in the PHQ, so i just stopped using this technique cause i was loosing too much profits.

Keep in mind when you sell a ship it's bought back by the shipyard a lot below it's value, and the same happens with everything inside of it.

Where is your HQ?

Consecrated fire Beta right now.

[Raposus]

It never really was. Using this trick is only when you mine too many nividum that you can't sell it any other way. Around PTNI HQ for example there are already a lot of nividium being produced and you will hardly be able to sell it, so using this trick is great.

However now i'm near unseen domain and i mined a lot of Nvidium, so much that i sold a super transporter XL full of it (around 2500 units if i remember) and it made a lot of money, but then i realized stocking it in my HQ and selling it 15500 cr/unit many traders came and bought it. In fact they buy it so fast i'm almost always at 0 in the PHQ, so i just stopped using this technique cause i was loosing too much profits.

Keep in mind when you sell a ship it's bought back by the shipyard a lot below it's value, and the same happens with everything inside of it.

Where is your HQ?

Consecrated fire Beta right now.

It's a very isolated sector with no gates, and yet you sell all that nividium? I still haven't thought where to put mine. I like to mine and to sell nividium maybe a Teladi sector is better. The Hub can only store 38 nividium units. I've already sold the first shipment for the price you advised. I also like Unclaimed Sector alpha. There is still a long way to go to explore every corner of the map. Any suggestions where to put my HQ?

[Midnightknight]

My Xenon Hub is linked to Consecrated fire so it's not that isolated and there is a TOA so there is a gate you can build it if the paranids don't. I put it there cause there is a lot of nividium asteroids inside and i wanted my PHQ in a sector almost empty to put all my stuff. But if you put it in Consecrated fire it won't make much difference. I don't think it's a really big issue having your stuff in a place really isolated, i have set a complex of space fuel in the unkown sector close to CF and i have traders buying it all before my XL factory could even stock 1000, and the price is only 5 cr below average. It's the same with space flies in my Xenon hub, splits constantly coming to buy them.

If you have some stuff really needed in some place NPC traders are ready to travel more than 6 sectors to buy it. I don't know how much jumps are their limit but with how i have set my stuff now, i sell almost anything (Only issue with Terran stuff, Cahoona and Ecells cause nobody needs it around and i use them only for my own weapons factories.)

[Betelgeuse97]

Keep in mind when you sell a ship it's bought back by the shipyard a lot below it's value, and the same happens with everything inside of it.

If I recall correctly (and if it's the same in FL), when you sell a ship, you get up to 2/3 of the price you would pay for buying that ship at the shipyard. The contents inside are sold for 90% of their value.

It's clearly not 90% of what is inside. I sold a few ships with stuff inside. I think it's more 2/3 the base price. Or it's 90% of minimum price, but not average price.

I didn't know about rank affecting sales price (that was probably why I sold for much more). Thanks!