As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

Post by RunGiantBoom »

It is better than TP+ by lore, like private jet in real taxi world.

It is suggestion, not a statement :)
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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Its the only ship with that unique icon. Whole different class I would say. And you have a valid point. :)
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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It can't be used for TP-Taxi missions?
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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Indeed, the Kogarasu Maru cannot be used for mission requiring a TP. BUT (this worked already in earlier versions), you only need to use a TP when accepting. AND, for regular TP missions, you can accept and the counter will only start once you docked with a TP. My normal procedure is to accept while insde the KM, then jump in a TP, approach within docking computer distance, wait with SINZA on until the TP has docked, and then dock myself. Really funny to hear the complaints ("I will not board into THIS") about the KM being inappropriate, while the passenger is perfectly happy once you changed ship into your ugly TP. THEN I move the passenger in the exchange freight menu (serves them right :D), change ship myself and deliver the passenger in the KM. The TP is sent to autorefuel in the meantime. For really tight schedules I have a Starburst (with CLS) docked inside the KM, but with 2 or 3 engine tunings in the KM I have never needed it.
One thing - the precious TP taxi missions that give you an agent as well indeed start the counter once you accept them, so make sure your TP is within one jump range or so....
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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bodo_boderius wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 11:11 Indeed, the Kogarasu Maru cannot be used for mission requiring a TP. BUT (this worked already in earlier versions), you only need to use a TP when accepting. AND, for regular TP missions, you can accept and the counter will only start once you docked with a TP. My normal procedure is to accept while insde the KM, then jump in a TP, approach within docking computer distance, wait with SINZA on until the TP has docked, and then dock myself. Really funny to hear the complaints ("I will not board into THIS") about the KM being inappropriate, while the passenger is perfectly happy once you changed ship into your ugly TP. THEN I move the passenger in the exchange freight menu (serves them right :D), change ship myself and deliver the passenger in the KM. The TP is sent to autorefuel in the meantime. For really tight schedules I have a Starburst (with CLS) docked inside the KM, but with 2 or 3 engine tunings in the KM I have never needed it.
One thing - the precious TP taxi missions that give you an agent as well indeed start the counter once you accept them, so make sure your TP is within one jump range or so....
Never tried that but can you accept taxi mission and complete it in full remote mode? Send TP to grab passenger and jump to target station.

It would be much more convenient as now my main ship is TP because i can summon m2s for any fight, not for agent taxi missions.
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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bodo_boderius wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 11:11 Never tried that but can you accept taxi mission and complete it in full remote mode? Send TP to grab passenger and jump to target station.

It would be much more convenient as now my main ship is TP because i can summon m2s for any fight, not for agent taxi missions.
To the best of my knowledge, you have to be inside the TP at the station offering the mission, otherwise it will not start. Not sure whether you can finish it remotely, don't think so, but I stand to be corrected.
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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Cycrow wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 12:02 Theres nothing in the lore to suggest the Kogarasu Maru is a TP

its a luxury yacht, not a passenger transporter. The same as the Hyperion
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-GoldenEye- wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 12:42
Cycrow wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 12:02 Theres nothing in the lore to suggest the Kogarasu Maru is a TP

its a luxury yacht, not a passenger transporter. The same as the Hyperion
The problem with that is that certain missions are basically asking for a luxury cruise. Those should accept these luxury yachts. It's right in the name.
Those mass transportation just throw them into a TP. Or tbf I don't see why we can't just throw them into a CLS TS.
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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i think the issue is that Maru and Hyperion are both the only Yatch in game, remember when Hyperion was introduced into reunion it was called the Yatch of pontifex maximus ... So both thoses ships are not really a separate ship class but simply M6+ even if they have a different icon.

And if you allow luxury cruises on M6+ well ... I imagine the guy forced inside the cargo bay of my Acynonyx ahah.
Yes i agree a luxury Yatch should be able to do transport luxury mission (not the military ones), but that brings once again many issue and i seriously doubt they want to create another class ship with all the docking issues (to only name this one issue). I'm not sure either they want to put some code in missions just for two special ships. Remember when people complain that something is "Hardcoded" ?
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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Are M6+ even an official class? Or perhaps to be precise are they technically speaking a separate class?
If so should as well classify these ships as TP+.
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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Raptor34 wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 15:31 Are M6+ even an official class? Or perhaps to be precise are they technically speaking a separate class?
If so should as well classify these ships as TP+.
Phantom is a TP+ ... Not really anything to compete with Hyperion or Maru. Those TP+ have no laser regen and usually 4 guns. Only difference is shield and hull. A bit like TS and Armored TS.
Or it would need a complete rebalance at this point. Also Hyperion is really big compared to a TP, so it would be a docking mess ... You already need to be extra careful when docking it to an Aran or a Kyoto >.<
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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Midnightknight wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 15:57
Raptor34 wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 15:31 Are M6+ even an official class? Or perhaps to be precise are they technically speaking a separate class?
If so should as well classify these ships as TP+.
Phantom is a TP+ ... Not really anything to compete with Hyperion or Maru. Those TP+ have no laser regen and usually 4 guns. Only difference is shield and hull. A bit like TS and Armored TS.
Or it would need a complete rebalance at this point. Also Hyperion is really big compared to a TP, so it would be a docking mess ... You already need to be extra careful when docking it to an Aran or a Kyoto >.<
Yeah. A really expensive cutting edge TP+. I mean the Hyperion was introduced as a yacht.
But anyway, are there any docks that take TP and not M6 and vice versa? If not it doesn't really matter.
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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Raptor34 wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 16:31
Midnightknight wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 15:57
Raptor34 wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 15:31 Are M6+ even an official class? Or perhaps to be precise are they technically speaking a separate class?
If so should as well classify these ships as TP+.
Phantom is a TP+ ... Not really anything to compete with Hyperion or Maru. Those TP+ have no laser regen and usually 4 guns. Only difference is shield and hull. A bit like TS and Armored TS.
Or it would need a complete rebalance at this point. Also Hyperion is really big compared to a TP, so it would be a docking mess ... You already need to be extra careful when docking it to an Aran or a Kyoto >.<
Yeah. A really expensive cutting edge TP+. I mean the Hyperion was introduced as a yacht.
But anyway, are there any docks that take TP and not M6 and vice versa? If not it doesn't really matter.
Ozias can dock TP but not M6. It's the only that comes into my mind, but i might be wrong. TP are more the size of a TS so they can dock almost everywhere, M6 sizes can vary a lot more and are sometime even too big to go into internal docking of a few stations. Was an issue with Hyperion in previous games.
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Re: As Kogarasu Maru is unique yacht, may it be used for quick taxi missions?

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Midnightknight wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 16:46
Raptor34 wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 16:31
Midnightknight wrote: Thu, 3. Jun 21, 15:57

Phantom is a TP+ ... Not really anything to compete with Hyperion or Maru. Those TP+ have no laser regen and usually 4 guns. Only difference is shield and hull. A bit like TS and Armored TS.
Or it would need a complete rebalance at this point. Also Hyperion is really big compared to a TP, so it would be a docking mess ... You already need to be extra careful when docking it to an Aran or a Kyoto >.<
Yeah. A really expensive cutting edge TP+. I mean the Hyperion was introduced as a yacht.
But anyway, are there any docks that take TP and not M6 and vice versa? If not it doesn't really matter.
Ozias can dock TP but not M6. It's the only that comes into my mind, but i might be wrong. TP are more the size of a TS so they can dock almost everywhere, M6 sizes can vary a lot more and are sometime even too big to go into internal docking of a few stations. Was an issue with Hyperion in previous games.
Iirc its mainly the wings of the Hyp. But yeah, that would be problematic then. The Ozias thing rather than the others.

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